Irony of Make America Great Again

Anonymous
While "Make America Great Again" actually becomes more appropriate the longer DT/MAGA are in power and take the US down the drain, when will MAGA supporters realize the irony of adhering this slogan the longer their party is in power?
Seems like an untapped opportunity for non-MAGA - Dems/independents should re-brand and take over the slogan as a rallying cry.
Anonymous
gaslighting 101
Anonymous
Why are you still asking when MAGA will see the light? Anyone who is STILL MAGA is a lost cause. But there are not that many of them. Not enough to win the White House and dominate Congress.

Focus on Dem turnout and giving moderate people something they'll vote for. It's doable. Trump is VERY unpopular and people are tiring of the GOP Congress more with each passing day.
Anonymous
MAGA is a cult. And they don’t even know what irony means.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:While "Make America Great Again" actually becomes more appropriate the longer DT/MAGA are in power and take the US down the drain, when will MAGA supporters realize the irony of adhering this slogan the longer their party is in power?
Seems like an untapped opportunity for non-MAGA - Dems/independents should re-brand and take over the slogan as a rallying cry.


The GOP and Dem Parties need to be shut down so that progressives and conservatives can coalesce behind functional political parties. Enough is enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:While "Make America Great Again" actually becomes more appropriate the longer DT/MAGA are in power and take the US down the drain, when will MAGA supporters realize the irony of adhering this slogan the longer their party is in power?
Seems like an untapped opportunity for non-MAGA - Dems/independents should re-brand and take over the slogan as a rallying cry.


The problem is that MAGA has done permanent damage to America’s “greatness”. We have forfeited our status as a defender of freedom and human rights, a trusted ally, an economic power that is a stabilizing and helpful force for good on the global stage, a beacon for researchers who want to be on the leading edge, etc. Dems shouldn’t claim they’ll accomplish the now impossible, “make America great again” task, which is doomed to failure, seeing as the paradigm has shifted and we are no longer the preeminent superpower in the world.

Our ballooning debt had been careening towards catastrophe even before Trump’s presidency, sustained by the dollar’s status as a global currency, which is no longer a given. Our economy was in jeopardy even resting on the foundation of global goodwill, without it we could face a crash that would make us envy the Great Depression. As bleak as the economic forecast is, it pales in comparison to the threats to both our national security and to the continued existence of a free and democratic America.

At most Democrats could claim “we’ll try to stop the slide and salvage as much as we can”, but that’s hardly inspiring.
Anonymous
About 60% of MAGA are retirees and folks over 50, mostly technicians and service workers.

They are not impacted by anything unless SS or Medicare are impacted. They don’t fly anywhere, it’s road trips to the lake beach, they compete with immigrant labor directly for work if they work, and are the ones whipping up a go fund me if someone in their family gets sick.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MAGA is a cult. And they don’t even know what irony means.


And they don't even realize with all of Trump's government investments or rather, infusion, into private businesses, that they're not just a cult, but rapidly becoming a Communist cult.
Anonymous
I think the slogan means returning to mainstream values where america was a melting pot, a mosaic of people who tried hard and sometimes succeeded.

Forging a place where we were not finger pointing and demanding shame and apologies for having wealth or success. Where wealth is seen as an achievement and not an entitlement.

A place where children who worked hard could go to a state college, a place where 30 year olds could buy a house— and place where things were generally comfortable and not confrontational. Everyday. Every site.

I think many people became upset and marginalized over the past eight years. They felt pushed out and shamed. The pandemic, which needlessly dragged on, hurt the American psyche — and certainly helped drive crisis in our American youth.
Parents suffered. Children suffered. Classrooms were frozen in time with green St Patrick’s Day decorations. For years.

Things were not good. The slogan means change. Obama said change. He won. This man says change, by returning to root values. He won. A wide majority of people agreed and elected him to be our civilized and military leader. He won. If you are not asking why, you might be missing the point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think the slogan means returning to mainstream values where america was a melting pot, a mosaic of people who tried hard and sometimes succeeded.

Forging a place where we were not finger pointing and demanding shame and apologies for having wealth or success. Where wealth is seen as an achievement and not an entitlement.

A place where children who worked hard could go to a state college, a place where 30 year olds could buy a house— and place where things were generally comfortable and not confrontational. Everyday. Every site.

I think many people became upset and marginalized over the past eight years. They felt pushed out and shamed. The pandemic, which needlessly dragged on, hurt the American psyche — and certainly helped drive crisis in our American youth.
Parents suffered. Children suffered. Classrooms were frozen in time with green St Patrick’s Day decorations. For years.

Things were not good. The slogan means change. Obama said change. He won. This man says change, by returning to root values. He won. A wide majority of people agreed and elected him to be our civilized and military leader. He won. If you are not asking why, you might be missing the point.


One year of Trump, and:

- Children still can’t find jobs and still can’t buy a house. Food/clothing/consumer goods are now needlessly more expensive than ever.

- People are still upset and not only marginalized, their rights are being eroded. They’re being told they don’t belong in today’s America, that America is only for white conservative Christians. Their neighborhoods are being militarized, and a police/surveillance state put in place.

- Obscene wealth is something people should be ashamed of. Once upon a time, rich people gave back to society in the form of libraries, universities, museums and charities. The current crop of rich people are building bunkers, throwing Great Gatsby parties, and laughing at the little people whose lives they’re destroying. Their contempt is so brazen.

- America a melting pot? No. Immigrants are being blamed for everything bad and kidnapped off the streets. Meanwhile, MAGA is eliminating DEI, the Department of Labor is putting out memes depicting jobs for white men only (and the occasional token female), and the US is undergoing a brain drain as research funding gets cut and scientists flee to other countries.

- Nonconfrontational? Trump gave his followers permission to bully and call people names. Young men are proudly proclaiming they can use the r and f words again. Women are being told to shut up and get back in the kitchen.

- The US continues its slide down the global rankings on everything from child mortality to literacy to democracy. We’re still near the top in incarceration though, hooray for us.

Trump may have won, but he’s delivered the exact opposite of what you thought he was promising. America is very far from great.

Anonymous
- Also, Trump was not elected by a “wide majority”. His popular vote margin was razor-thin.

- College continues to be unaffordable. MAGA is telling young people not to bother. Young women are being urged to skip higher education and have babies. Young men are being told diplomas are worthless and a waste of time.

Of course, MAGA elites continue to send their children to college. They don’t want the competition.
Anonymous
Meanwhile Trump is still going on about how Biden ruined the country. At some point Mr. "only I can fix it" needs to understand that he's the guy in charge now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:While "Make America Great Again" actually becomes more appropriate the longer DT/MAGA are in power and take the US down the drain, when will MAGA supporters realize the irony of adhering this slogan the longer their party is in power?
Seems like an untapped opportunity for non-MAGA - Dems/independents should re-brand and take over the slogan as a rallying cry.


lets recall what Democrats did that led us to this situation ....


In his first 100 days in office, Biden signed more than 60 executive actions, 24 of which are direct reversals of Trump’s policies.

Biden has defended the number as necessary to undo what he considers “bad policy” inherited from Trump, especially on immigration.


To date, 10 of his 12 actions on immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies.

“And I want to make it clear — there’s a lot of talk, with good reason, about the number of executive orders that I have signed — I’m not making new law; I’m eliminating bad policy,” Biden said as he signed a series of actions on immigration from the Oval Office on February 2. “What I’m doing is taking on the issues that — 99% of them — that the president, the last president of the United States, issued executive orders I felt were very counterproductive to our security, counterproductive to who we are as a country, particularly in the area of immigration.”

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/politics/biden-executive-orders/


04/16/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Memo
Reversal: Yes
Reverses the Trump policy banning refugees from key regions and enables flights from those regions to begin within days. Declares that the 15,000 annual refugee cap set by Trump will be raised to a number to be determined by May 15.

02/04/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Expands the United States Refugee Admissions Program and rescinds Trump policies that limited refugee admissions and required additional vetting

02/02/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Aims to address economic and political causes of migration, works with organizations to provide protection to asylum seekers and ensures Central American asylum seekers have legal access to the United States. Rescinds Trump administration policies and guidelines and also initiates a review of policies “that have effectively closed the U.S. border to asylum seekers”

02/02/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Rescinds Trump’s memo requiring immigrants to repay the government if they receive public benefits. Elevates the role of the executive branch in promoting immigrant integration and inclusion, including reestablishing a Task Force on New Americans. Requires agencies to review immigration regulations and policies

01/20/2021
Topic: Census
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Requires non-citizens to be included in the Census and apportionment of congressional representatives

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Memo
Reversal: No
Fortifies DACA after Trump’s efforts to undo protections for undocumented people brought into the country as children

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Proclamation
Reversal: Yes
Reverses the Trump administration’s restrictions on US entry for passport holders from seven Muslim-majority countries

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Undoes Trump’s expansion of immigration enforcement within the United States

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Proclamation
Reversal: Yes
Halts construction of the border wall by terminating the national emergency declaration used to fund it

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Memo
Reversal: No
Extends deferrals of deportation and work authorizations for Liberians with a safe haven in the United States until June 30, 2022
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While "Make America Great Again" actually becomes more appropriate the longer DT/MAGA are in power and take the US down the drain, when will MAGA supporters realize the irony of adhering this slogan the longer their party is in power?
Seems like an untapped opportunity for non-MAGA - Dems/independents should re-brand and take over the slogan as a rallying cry.


lets recall what Democrats did that led us to this situation ....


In his first 100 days in office, Biden signed more than 60 executive actions, 24 of which are direct reversals of Trump’s policies.

Biden has defended the number as necessary to undo what he considers “bad policy” inherited from Trump, especially on immigration.


To date, 10 of his 12 actions on immigration are reversals of Trump’s policies.

“And I want to make it clear — there’s a lot of talk, with good reason, about the number of executive orders that I have signed — I’m not making new law; I’m eliminating bad policy,” Biden said as he signed a series of actions on immigration from the Oval Office on February 2. “What I’m doing is taking on the issues that — 99% of them — that the president, the last president of the United States, issued executive orders I felt were very counterproductive to our security, counterproductive to who we are as a country, particularly in the area of immigration.”

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/politics/biden-executive-orders/


04/16/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Memo
Reversal: Yes
Reverses the Trump policy banning refugees from key regions and enables flights from those regions to begin within days. Declares that the 15,000 annual refugee cap set by Trump will be raised to a number to be determined by May 15.

02/04/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Expands the United States Refugee Admissions Program and rescinds Trump policies that limited refugee admissions and required additional vetting

02/02/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Aims to address economic and political causes of migration, works with organizations to provide protection to asylum seekers and ensures Central American asylum seekers have legal access to the United States. Rescinds Trump administration policies and guidelines and also initiates a review of policies “that have effectively closed the U.S. border to asylum seekers”

02/02/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Rescinds Trump’s memo requiring immigrants to repay the government if they receive public benefits. Elevates the role of the executive branch in promoting immigrant integration and inclusion, including reestablishing a Task Force on New Americans. Requires agencies to review immigration regulations and policies

01/20/2021
Topic: Census
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Requires non-citizens to be included in the Census and apportionment of congressional representatives

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Memo
Reversal: No
Fortifies DACA after Trump’s efforts to undo protections for undocumented people brought into the country as children

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Proclamation
Reversal: Yes
Reverses the Trump administration’s restrictions on US entry for passport holders from seven Muslim-majority countries

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Executive Order
Reversal: Yes
Undoes Trump’s expansion of immigration enforcement within the United States

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Proclamation
Reversal: Yes
Halts construction of the border wall by terminating the national emergency declaration used to fund it

01/20/2021
Topic: Immigration
Type: Memo
Reversal: No
Extends deferrals of deportation and work authorizations for Liberians with a safe haven in the United States until June 30, 2022

How, specifically, did those policies make your life worse?
Anonymous
It was always a joke. Except people were too dumb to realize that it was at their expense.

How about making us America again?
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