Taylor Swift Tour

[Anonymous]

Can someone smarter than me explain why in 2022 bots can’t be thwarted?

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Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

We should really stick it to those people and refuse to buy their leftover tickets. That will teach them!

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Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

They didn’t mostly get into the hands of actual fans. They got into the hands of bots.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

If they could sell them at a reasonable cost that would be nice too. Like I get greed, but this is next level. 500 for a nosebleed seat? And that seems like a steal since everything else is in the 1000s.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

They didn’t mostly get into the hands of actual fans. They got into the hands of bots.

Citation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

They didn’t mostly get into the hands of actual fans. They got into the hands of bots.

Citation?

Look at all of the tickets on the resellers sites

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

They didn’t mostly get into the hands of actual fans. They got into the hands of bots.

Citation?

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/taylor-swift-tour-tickets-ticketmaster-crash-b2227557.html?amp

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

They didn’t mostly get into the hands of actual fans. They got into the hands of bots.

Citation?

Look at all of the tickets on the resellers sites

How do you know those are all bots and not just fans with extras?

And going in the other direction, how do we know it's not Ticketmaster themselves withholding tickets and upselling them disguised as resell tickets?

[Anonymous]

What? They are not going to sell tickets to the general public? What's the plan then?

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Anonymous wrote:What? They are not going to sell tickets to the general public? What's the plan then?

We don’t know. From what they’ve shared, it seems there are no tickets left.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if this is true or not but Ticketmaster just posted on their twitter account that tomorrow’s general sale is cancelled.

https://twitter.com/ticketmaster/status/1593333211769106433?s=46&t=Z0GD2NdzNOfh-_WkC4wB_A

Wait what…

As someone who worked in this business for 13 years before the Live Nation/Ticketmaster merger, this is blowing my mind. Never in all my years of working for LN did a fk up of this magnitude ever happen.

I mean, I'm sat here with my mouth literally hanging open.

Pair this with Maffei's disastrous interview and I would be extremely surprised if this whole situation didn't lead to major changes and possibly even an investigation.

The amount of failures that happened for this pre-sale point to big issues within the TM management and development team. Only 1.5 million verified users sent codes and yet 14 million were able to hit the site means that their verified fan program is BS and flawed. Were any pen tests done? If so, they were not effective and need to be revamped.

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Anonymous wrote:What? They are not going to sell tickets to the general public? What's the plan then?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the whole tour canceled??

No, the general sale of tickets is cancelled. I imagine there just aren’t any tickets left.

They all went on pre-sale? That would be sh!tty. There should only be a certain amount for pre-sale.

No, it's best if majority if not all tickets went during the Verified Fan sale. That way most tickets got into the hands of actual fans. At this time, the only people to be pissed at are the fans that bought 6 tickets instead of only the 2 they needed. Totally selfish.

They didn’t mostly get into the hands of actual fans. They got into the hands of bots.

Citation?

Look at all of the tickets on the resellers sites

How do you know those are all bots and not just fans with extras?

And going in the other direction, how do we know it's not Ticketmaster themselves withholding tickets and upselling them disguised as resell tickets?

I’m sure fans bought more than needed with plans to sell them for a profit. People who aren’t fans also probably signed up for the presale or tried buying as many cap one tickets as possible. It’s a few hours of their time that could net hundreds or thousands of dollars. And then there are the bots.

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Anonymous wrote:What? They are not going to sell tickets to the general public? What's the plan then?

We don’t know. From what they’ve shared, it seems there are no tickets left.

That how it was with BTS, they canceled the general sale after they sold out in the pre-sale.

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Anonymous wrote:We didn’t get tickets. My daughter feels personally victimized by Taylor Swift.

That's a little extreme.

Extreme or not, it’s how tons of teen girls and women in their 20s are feeling.

TikTok is full of teen girls pissed off at TSwift.

Women in their 20's? Oh wow. Do people think she had something to do with it, personally? Are they thinking that maybe she isn't really concerned with her fans?

She did have something to do with it. She could have chosen not to participate in dynamic pricing (Ed Sheeran has done this in the past).

I don’t think Dynamic Pricing even really impacted things. Nosebleeds were going for $109 before fees. I think Capital One tickets were a little more expensive than VF though which is crummy.

Nosebleeds before dynamic pricing were supposed to be $59. So, Dynamic pricing basically doubled the price with the fees.

The dynamic pricing was really evident in places like Philadelphia.

I was going for a less popular show, (Detroit) and the prices were so much lower than what my friends trying for the Philadelphia, NJ, or Pittsburgh shows were seeing.