Court allows Trump to end union bargaining for federal workers

[Anonymous]

It's only getting worse. FML. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/court-allows-trump-end-union-bargaining-federal-workers-2025-08-01/

[Anonymous]

What is the rationale? I tried to read the article..but still unclear..

[Anonymous]

Trump cancelled unions because they were filing lawsuits against him then told the federal court that everyone in the major agencies are too involved with national security to have bargaining rights. The 9th Circuit said Trump is free to declare anyone ineligible for a union and believed that Trump would have gotten rid of the unions even if he didn't violate their 1st amendment rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump cancelled unions because they were filing lawsuits against him then told the federal court that everyone in the major agencies are too involved with national security to have bargaining rights. The 9th Circuit said Trump is free to declare anyone ineligible for a union and believed that Trump would have gotten rid of the unions even if he didn't violate their 1st amendment rights.

Probably some truth to that last part.

[Anonymous]

It’s about time!

[Anonymous]

Why would a bunch of office govt workers need a union

[Anonymous]

Fwiw these are just preliminary rulings on whether to stop Trump’s actions whole the cae goes forward. There is ongoing litigation in DC as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would a bunch of office govt workers need a union

Why don’t they? Are you saying that only blue-collar workers need a union?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale? I tried to read the article..but still unclear..

No final decision has been issued. This just relates to the injunction that put the decision on hold. The unions can still continue with litigation but in the meantime the administration is not barred from refusing to bargain with the unions.

It is notoriously difficult under the law to secure an injunction and it is no surprise that the appellate courts have not upheld them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would a bunch of office govt workers need a union

They aren't allowed to strike. A union makes life easy for the agency and management by creating a contract that heavily favors management. My old union agreement had stringent dress code rules but now that the CBA is gone management has to specifically say what is not allowed. The current dress code forbids cutoffs but doesn't mention "shorts" or define "business casual, so some colleagues are able to show up to work wearing khaki shorts, cheap polos, and sandals with socks. Without the CBA, management always says they don't know when you ask them about rules/policy and they have to approve telework for religious prayer due to random OPM memos.

Oh, management used to mooch off CBA benefits like telework so now they get the worst of this terrible situation while still having to ask permission before they do anything. A lot of management is made up of former union stewards and presidents because they saw how chill it is to lead and manage people with a bargaining agreement in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a bunch of office govt workers need a union

Why don’t they? Are you saying that only blue-collar workers need a union?

Not PP but yes. Government workers should not have a union. Never should have been allowed. Nothing wrong with this even if you oppose Trump.

[Anonymous]

People with college degrees generally don’t have unions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a bunch of office govt workers need a union

Why don’t they? Are you saying that only blue-collar workers need a union?

Not PP but yes. Government workers should not have a union. Never should have been allowed. Nothing wrong with this even if you oppose Trump.

This is one of the things Trump is getting right. Public unions are a scourge.

[Anonymous]

So are they ending federal LEO and first responder unions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a bunch of office govt workers need a union

They aren't allowed to strike. A union makes life easy for the agency and management by creating a contract that heavily favors management. My old union agreement had stringent dress code rules but now that the CBA is gone management has to specifically say what is not allowed. The current dress code forbids cutoffs but doesn't mention "shorts" or define "business casual, so some colleagues are able to show up to work wearing khaki shorts, cheap polos, and sandals with socks. Without the CBA, management always says they don't know when you ask them about rules/policy and they have to approve telework for religious prayer due to random OPM memos.

Oh, management used to mooch off CBA benefits like telework so now they get the worst of this terrible situation while still having to ask permission before they do anything. A lot of management is made up of former union stewards and presidents because they saw how chill it is to lead and manage people with a bargaining agreement in place.

That doesn't really make sense. HR could just copy paste the CBA dress code section and call that the new official policy if they wanted to.