Do you see lingerie, makeup and heels as healthy or subjugation?

[Anonymous]

Why women have to do all this but not men? Should society recognize it as something making women second degree citizens?

[Anonymous]

Have?

[Anonymous]

Depends on the reasons behind them I guess. If you are forced to use them? That's obviously not ok.

[Anonymous]

I just see them as things some other women like but I don’t.

[Anonymous]

Does the prevailing beauty standard for women, which requires more money, time, and effort than the prevailing standard for men, contribute to gender inequality? Yes.
Is anyone forcing women to wear makeup and heels? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the reasons behind them I guess. If you are forced to use them? That's obviously not ok.

If society is seeing it as something valuable then you are practically forced. If you don't compete, you're at disadvantage.

[Anonymous]

Beauty standards like these are decided mostly by men. Women adhere because they are social creatures who want to please and be liked. Thank god I don’t have to wear high heels, they would make me slow and cause injury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the reasons behind them I guess. If you are forced to use them? That's obviously not ok.

If society is seeing it as something valuable then you are practically forced. If you don't compete, you're at disadvantage.

Society is fractured enough these days that you can leave the race in which you feel disadvantaged and enter the race in which you feel advantaged. There are plenty of social and business circles these days that don’t require hours of makeup and high heels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the reasons behind them I guess. If you are forced to use them? That's obviously not ok.

If society is seeing it as something valuable then you are practically forced. If you don't compete, you're at disadvantage.

Exactly. There are societally imposed gender standards for appearance. Sure if you're a female wedding guest, you can show up in pants and a button up shirt, but people will judge you negatively for that. Or you have to become "nonbinary" in order to do it.

[Anonymous]

MAGA tries to convince women they are required, but we know better - it’s a choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Beauty standards like these are decided mostly by men. Women adhere because they are social creatures who want to please and be liked. Thank god I don’t have to wear high heels, they would make me slow and cause injury.

Men have little say in all this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the reasons behind them I guess. If you are forced to use them? That's obviously not ok.

If society is seeing it as something valuable then you are practically forced. If you don't compete, you're at disadvantage.

Exactly. There are societally imposed gender standards for appearance. Sure if you're a female wedding guest, you can show up in pants and a button up shirt, but people will judge you negatively for that. Or you have to become "nonbinary" in order to do it.

The people who judge you negatively for this are not worth your time. Life is short. Don’t waste your time trying to please people who have no relevance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beauty standards like these are decided mostly by men. Women adhere because they are social creatures who want to please and be liked. Thank god I don’t have to wear high heels, they would make me slow and cause injury.

Men have little say in all this.

+1

Women's beauty and fashion is mostly decided by women. Women adhere to them because we are social creatures and want to be liked by women and sometimes by men.

[Anonymous]

Look at Pamela Anderson. She knows about makeup, high heels, the male gaze, and being judged better than anyone…and yet today she walks red carpets without any makeup on. You do you, OP. No one is going to stop you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the reasons behind them I guess. If you are forced to use them? That's obviously not ok.

If society is seeing it as something valuable then you are practically forced. If you don't compete, you're at disadvantage.

Society is fractured enough these days that you can leave the race in which you feel disadvantaged and enter the race in which you feel advantaged. There are plenty of social and business circles these days that don’t require hours of makeup and high heels.

This.

Don’t you know any women who are happy and fulfilled in their professional and personal lives who don’t wear a lot of makeup or high heels?