Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

There are many Islamic states, and it is not clear that people in Gaza or the West Bank want an Islamic state. There is one Jewish state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are many Islamic states, and it is not clear that people in Gaza or the West Bank want an Islamic state. There is one Jewish state.

Bernard Arnault has US$231 billion, while I don't have even US$1 billion. Does that mean I'm entitled to steal some of Arnault's money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does Israel say they are blocking anesthesia shipments into Gaza?

I seriously would like to hear from an Israeli supporter why they won’t allow shipments of painkillers into the territory?

Israel is a seriously sick, genocidal, evil nation. This is disgusting!

[Anonymous]

Did Israel attack the Iranian consulate to provoke a response and increase support for their Gaza war?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did Israel attack the Iranian consulate to provoke a response and increase support for their Gaza war?

We see through Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are many Islamic states, and it is not clear that people in Gaza or the West Bank want an Islamic state. There is one Jewish state.

There are Palestinian Christians. Islamic state with sharia law wouldn’t make sense. For example, Palestinian Catholics drink wine for communion. They can eat pork products. Palestine can’t ban pork or alcohol .

Mandating hijab would be even more laughably difficult . Hamas’ own kids or grandkids don’t even wear hijab.

[Anonymous]

Banning drugs would also be difficult as Palestinians do need opioids and for obvious reason substance abuse is rampant there

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a party like Likud . Not everyone in there is an extremist who wants Israel gone. Just like Netanyahu is actually one of the more centrist /moderate ones from his own party.

Some people within Hamas do want a two state solution. It’s split and there are divisions and different opinions within Hamas. It’s not monolith. The 10/7 raid was done by the extremists of Hamas (the 1/6 MAGA element) led by Sinwar. Israel can’t find him and Hamas has no idea where he is because Sinwar dislikes Hamas too. He doesn’t trust all of them either because he thinks they support and are Israel collaborators.

If you want to paint all the Hamas or Gazans/Palestinians in one box because it alleviates guilt about killing , then just say so.

Just know that Israel’s own government and Hamas have worked together in the past to fight ISIS and still do. So , there are nuances here

Jesus Christ, Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization, not some goofy political party that is currently having a petty spat with Israel. Their primary, leading documents outline a desire to commit genocide against Jewish people, and to end the existence of the State of Israel, removing many Jewish people from land that has been in their family for generations. Comparing Hamas to the Israeli government, a democratically elected western government that operates under international law, is simply inappropriate.

Hamas has never seriously advocated for a two-state solution, and has never accepted Israel’s rights to the land they wish to inhabit. Their entire cause is to cleanse the entire area between the river and the sea of all traces of Israeli and Jewish life, and once complete with that goal will likely expand their genocide beyond the borders of the Middle East. And to say otherwise while the tragedy of 10/7 is still so fresh in our minds is sick.

Israel is an internationally recognized terror state as well. Being a pariah of the world is something Hamas has in common with Israel. Nobody called them goofy or said this was a petty spat. This is war.

Hamas has advocated for a two state solution . Mixed opinions exist within Hamas about the two state solution just like in Israel.

Hamas firebrands with rhetoric about eradicating Israel exists but there is Israeli rhetoric that says the same about Palestinians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does Israel say they are blocking anesthesia shipments into Gaza?

I seriously would like to hear from an Israeli supporter why they won’t allow shipments of painkillers into the territory?

Because Hamas takes the anesthesia and sells it for recreational use to fund their terrorist actions, leaving the innocent Palestinians who are injured with nothing, and enriching Hamas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a party like Likud . Not everyone in there is an extremist who wants Israel gone. Just like Netanyahu is actually one of the more centrist /moderate ones from his own party.

Some people within Hamas do want a two state solution. It’s split and there are divisions and different opinions within Hamas. It’s not monolith. The 10/7 raid was done by the extremists of Hamas (the 1/6 MAGA element) led by Sinwar. Israel can’t find him and Hamas has no idea where he is because Sinwar dislikes Hamas too. He doesn’t trust all of them either because he thinks they support and are Israel collaborators.

If you want to paint all the Hamas or Gazans/Palestinians in one box because it alleviates guilt about killing , then just say so.

Just know that Israel’s own government and Hamas have worked together in the past to fight ISIS and still do. So , there are nuances here

Jesus Christ, Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization, not some goofy political party that is currently having a petty spat with Israel. Their primary, leading documents outline a desire to commit genocide against Jewish people, and to end the existence of the State of Israel, removing many Jewish people from land that has been in their family for generations. Comparing Hamas to the Israeli government, a democratically elected western government that operates under international law, is simply inappropriate.

Hamas has never seriously advocated for a two-state solution, and has never accepted Israel’s rights to the land they wish to inhabit. Their entire cause is to cleanse the entire area between the river and the sea of all traces of Israeli and Jewish life, and once complete with that goal will likely expand their genocide beyond the borders of the Middle East. And to say otherwise while the tragedy of 10/7 is still so fresh in our minds is sick.

Israel is an internationally recognized terror state as well. Being a pariah of the world is something Hamas has in common with Israel. Nobody called them goofy or said this was a petty spat. This is war.

Hamas has advocated for a two state solution . Mixed opinions exist within Hamas about the two state solution just like in Israel.

Hamas firebrands with rhetoric about eradicating Israel exists but there is Israeli rhetoric that says the same about Palestinians

Please provide me any evidence a single western countries not directly aligned with Hamas has classified the country of Israel as international terrorists. The US certainly has not, no matter how much Biden wants to in order to appease his anti-Semitic base wishes we could, nor has anybody else in the group of Countries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a party like Likud . Not everyone in there is an extremist who wants Israel gone. Just like Netanyahu is actually one of the more centrist /moderate ones from his own party.

Some people within Hamas do want a two state solution. It’s split and there are divisions and different opinions within Hamas. It’s not monolith. The 10/7 raid was done by the extremists of Hamas (the 1/6 MAGA element) led by Sinwar. Israel can’t find him and Hamas has no idea where he is because Sinwar dislikes Hamas too. He doesn’t trust all of them either because he thinks they support and are Israel collaborators.

If you want to paint all the Hamas or Gazans/Palestinians in one box because it alleviates guilt about killing , then just say so.

Just know that Israel’s own government and Hamas have worked together in the past to fight ISIS and still do. So , there are nuances here

Jesus Christ, Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization, not some goofy political party that is currently having a petty spat with Israel. Their primary, leading documents outline a desire to commit genocide against Jewish people, and to end the existence of the State of Israel, removing many Jewish people from land that has been in their family for generations. Comparing Hamas to the Israeli government, a democratically elected western government that operates under international law, is simply inappropriate.

Hamas has never seriously advocated for a two-state solution, and has never accepted Israel’s rights to the land they wish to inhabit. Their entire cause is to cleanse the entire area between the river and the sea of all traces of Israeli and Jewish life, and once complete with that goal will likely expand their genocide beyond the borders of the Middle East. And to say otherwise while the tragedy of 10/7 is still so fresh in our minds is sick.

Israel is an internationally recognized terror state as well. Being a pariah of the world is something Hamas has in common with Israel. Nobody called them goofy or said this was a petty spat. This is war.

Hamas has advocated for a two state solution . Mixed opinions exist within Hamas about the two state solution just like in Israel.

Hamas firebrands with rhetoric about eradicating Israel exists but there is Israeli rhetoric that says the same about Palestinians

Please provide me any evidence a single western countries not directly aligned with Hamas has classified the country of Israel as international terrorists. The US certainly has not, no matter how much Biden wants to in order to appease his anti-Semitic base wishes we could, nor has anybody else in the group of Countries.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many Islamic states, and it is not clear that people in Gaza or the West Bank want an Islamic state. There is one Jewish state.

There are Palestinian Christians. Islamic state with sharia law wouldn’t make sense. For example, Palestinian Catholics drink wine for communion. They can eat pork products. Palestine can’t ban pork or alcohol .

Mandating hijab would be even more laughably difficult . Hamas’ own kids or grandkids don’t even wear hijab.

The number of Christians is way down since Hamas has been in charge.

[Anonymous]

What do pro Israelis think of Dr. Norman Finkelstein? A child of Holocaust survivors who sees the genocide for what it is

This interview was powerful
https://youtu.be/te1y7ahp2LQ?si=5bssZCgt-0XC3UA9

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Anonymous wrote:Those three sons they killed were known kinda like Trumps sons . One was known as the “father of Gazan real estate”

On December 30, 2022, the Saudi news website Elaph cited a “knowledgeable Palestinian source” saying that Haniyeh’s son Maaz, known in Gaza as Abu Al-Iqarat, or “The Father of Real Estate,” obtained a Turkish passport, which allowed him to easily exit Gaza and travel abroad, and invest in properties in Turkey.

The article further claimed that Maaz, and other sons of the Haniyeh family, drink alcohol abroad and spend time with women other than their wives in luxury nightclubs. Elaph also reported that Haniyeh’s children own generators, and sell electricity, a rare commodity in an area under constant power shortages, while they themselves get it for free.

In July 2022, a document was shared on Palestinian social media showing an official list of travelers who had been given permission to leave Gaza through the Rafah crossing. Among the names was Haniyeh’s son Hazem, along with his wife and two children, who left Gaza to join other members of the Haniya family in Turkey.

The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have disclosed documents showcasing substantial luxury jewelry purchases made by Maaz Ismaïl Haniyeh, the son of Hamas political bureau chief Ismail Haniyeh.

The receipts, unearthed during Israeli ground operations in the Gaza Strip, outline purchases amounting to thousands of dollars, shedding light on the disparity between Gaza residents and the leadership of Hamas.

Each bill's value equates to nearly two years' worth of salary for an average Gazan, whose monthly income hovers around 1,200 shekels, roughly 300 dollars. This revelation underscores a stark contrast, given Gaza's high unemployment rate of 45 percent.

The discovered receipts, totaling five in number, detail luxury jewelry acquisitions in Gaza Strip and Qatar jewelry stores attributed to Maaz Ismaïl Haniyeh.

This revelation follows recent reports from the Israeli embassy in the United States, alleging luxurious living and substantial wealth, estimated at billions of dollars, by senior Hamas figures.

I have no doubt that they were hypocritical horrible human beings. That doesn't mean that it was a good idea to assasinate them, and their children, in the midst of negotiations with their father to return the hostages and deescalate.

If you want to save the hostages then assasinating the sons of one of the main negotiatiors is a really bad choice.

They were Hamas.

Israel will not, cannot, and should not find long term peace until every last member of Hamas is buried or rotting in an Israeli prison never to so much as catch a glimpse of the sun. Sure, take a day to too ceasefire to bring home what few hostages, but do not let that get in the way of the goal: the destruction of Hamas. Any well meaning Jew would sacrifice any ceasefire for such glorious a day.

This is bloodthirsty, culturally narcissistic, and counter-productive. Hamas includes a spectrum of people with different views, and some are more moderate than some Zionists. There really isn't much difference between the two, except that Palestinians have a stronger claim on the land, which was stolen from them during the Nakba. Zionists want a Jewish state; Hamas wants an Islamic state. Both sides are racist. Your desire to exterminate everyone associated with Hamas is equivalent to the wish to exterminate everyone associated with Zionism. If it's acceptable for the IDF to kill a Hamas member's children and grandchildren, then you have to accept that it is equally acceptable to kill Zionists' children and grandchildren. To do otherwise would indicate ethno-supremacism. When Israel stoops to killing the grandchildren of Hamas members, it sets a dangerous precedent that makes 10/7 equally acceptable. And, of course, the process only generates more scarred, traumatized children on both sides who are going to grow up angry, unstable, and looking for revenge.

A more productive path forward would be to treat all life as equal, precious, and worthy of respect. Gratuitous slaughter, whether by bombs, guns, or starvation, is only going to inflame further and destabilize the situation. It's akin to the philosophy of "the floggings will continue until morale improves." The current escalating cycle of violent retribution has not worked in the past and won't work now. It will only create more bitterness, hatred, and desire for revenge. Someone needs to step up and be the adult, and it's not going to be Sinwar, Bibi, Smotrich, or Ben-Gvir. Maybe it'll be Biden ... or Xi. I don't know ...

I bet you recently read Bin Laden’s letter to America and agreed with it too right?

[Anonymous]

Google what mowing the lawn means to Israel and prepare to be disgusted