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Gaza War, Part 3
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Anonymous
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This is a new interesting article (and the source is Jewish so it’s not pro Hamas)
It appears Sinwar and his brother are not even Hamas but are creating their own separate faction? https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/israel-zionism/2024/04/are-ceasefire-negotiators-talking-to-the-right-people/ Prior to the war, relations between the Sinwar brothers and the Hamas leadership abroad were said to be tense. The Sinwar brothers, with the help of the Hamas military commanders Mohammed Deif and Marwan Issa [killed by the IDF last month], acted as if they were a separate group from Hamas, often refusing to accept dictates from Haniyeh and other senior Hamas officials in Qatar and Lebanon. In the aftermath of the Israeli military operation in the Gaza Strip, the disconnect between the Sinwar brothers and the Hamas leadership abroad has only deepened. It’s not clear how messages are being directly communicated, if at all, between the Hamas leaders abroad, who are negotiating with the Egyptians and Qataris, and the incommunicado Gaza-based Hamas leaders. According to an Arab diplomatic source, Yahya Sinwar recently sent an urgent message from his hideout to the Egyptians to the effect that any deal brokered by Haniyeh would be turned down by the Gaza-based leadership and Hamas’ military wing. As a result, Haniyeh was forced to call off a planned visit to the Egyptian capital of Cairo. |
Anonymous
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As far as the Sinwar brothers are concerned, the only thing that matters now is their personal survival and retaining control of the Gaza Strip. . . . Given the mistrust (and disconnect) between the Gaza-based Hamas leadership and the terror group’s leaders abroad, one can only wonder whether the Qataris and Egyptians are wasting their time negotiating with representatives who do not represent the Sinwar brothers.
Abu Toameh’s question raises another one: if Haniyeh and his colleagues aren’t playing a useful role in the negotiations, why are they allowed to live luxuriously in Doha rather than being delivered into American or Israeli custody? Conversely, if Haniyeh does have leverage over Sinwar, why aren’t U.S. and Qatari officials threatening him with serious repercussions if Hamas doesn’t produce the hostages forthwith? And if the answer to either question is that Qatar wants to protect Hamas’s leaders, why does it remain a U.S. ally? |
Anonymous
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I think this is all interesting because I’ve always said an offshoot of Hamas would be much worse and it appears that’s what happened /is happening.
All of the details I was able to find imply due to the wealth grubbing and luxury hotel living of Hamas’s leadership in Qatar and Turkey, Sinwar and his brother were able to lead a populist groundswell within Gaza and create his own armed militia . Essentially, they want to do a coup and destroy Hamas And not just Israel which means Hamas and Israel both have a vested interest in killing Sinwar |
Anonymous
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The other possibility is Hamas is lying about Sinwar and 10/7 being a rogue event and they are only distancing themselves from him because they don’t want the ire of Gazans when the war ends.
If he is a lone Wolf that went rogue , this means that Hamas has no real way to know where the hostages are but it would also mean Hamas and Israel (once again) are on the same side against an extremist element (ISIS and now Sinwar) |
Anonymous
It's straight from their PR playbook. |
Anonymous
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Qatar is playing the role Israel has asked them to play. Trying to pretend that their hosting of Hamas' political leadership and investment in Gaza was not done at the behest of Bibi and with the full knowledge of the US is disengenuous. Someone needed to be a back channel.
As for Sinwar, it does seem clear that he's playing his own personal game. There was another article about him, I forget where I saw it but it might have been the same guy, that said Sinwar and his followers were lost in some sort of Islamic End Times fantasy. Which, while troubling, explains a lot. Between Sinwar, Smotrich and the Evangelicals we're all hostages to these eschatological psychos. |
Anonymous
Anonymous
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Hamas is what it always has been and what Yasser Arafat always called them: controlled opposition from Israel. A boogeyman like Hamas can be controlled and used to unite a fractured and divided Israel. That’s why Netanyahu wanted Qatar to keep funding them.
The Israelis would much rather Hamas be the opponent they can control than say something like Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Hamas is the Netanyahu of Gazans. A centrist and more reasonable voice if one can imagine that. The problem is Sinwar was in Israeli prison for decades and knows the language and the military of Israel far better than any of the Hamas leadership living in Qatar and he was able to convince Enough foot soldiers that Hamas and Israel work together and are corrupt . |
Anonymous
| There’s no way Haniyeh would be able to fly to Turkey and Egypt all the time without his plane getting shot down if Israel really thought he was a threat. He’s a patron of Israel if anything . Qatar did not want Hamas in their country at first for fear of Israeli attacks . It was only when Israel convinced them they weren’t after those guys that they let them in and funded them |
Anonymous
Jesus Christ, Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization, not some goofy political party that is currently having a petty spat with Israel. Their primary, leading documents outline a desire to commit genocide against Jewish people, and to end the existence of the State of Israel, removing many Jewish people from land that has been in their family for generations. Comparing Hamas to the Israeli government, a democratically elected western government that operates under international law, is simply inappropriate. Hamas has never seriously advocated for a two-state solution, and has never accepted Israel’s rights to the land they wish to inhabit. Their entire cause is to cleanse the entire area between the river and the sea of all traces of Israeli and Jewish life, and once complete with that goal will likely expand their genocide beyond the borders of the Middle East. And to say otherwise while the tragedy of 10/7 is still so fresh in our minds is sick. |
Anonymous
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/12/middleeast/west-bank-village-stormed-by-israeli-settlers-intl/index.html
Settlers rampaging a west bank village setting it ablze. Remind me who the terrorists are again? |
Anonymous
At what point do we stop supplying arms? I hope Biden is happy this will cost him reelection |
Anonymous
Now he gets to draft gen z to war w iran. Disgusting |
Anonymous
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Why does Israel say they are blocking anesthesia shipments into Gaza?
I seriously would like to hear from an Israeli supporter why they won’t allow shipments of painkillers into the territory? |
Anonymous
They won't fight. |