which of these schools for ed1?

[Anonymous]

full pay
feeder private hs
3.8 most rigorous
male
humanities (philosophy) with EC/research to back up
1520
school leadership
unhooked

trying to narrow down ed1 .. like all right now.
williams, bowdoin, pomona, cmc.

feel good about Midd or Wes for ED2.

our naviance isn't very helpful because we have a lot of very hooked kids.

[Anonymous]

williams, bowdoin, pomona do not provide any ED advantage. If WASP is your dream schools, just RD.

CMC, yes. Real ED advantage. If you are set on CMC, go ahead. Otherwise, no ED or find another ED school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:williams, bowdoin, pomona do not provide any ED advantage. If WASP is your dream schools, just RD.

CMC, yes. Real ED advantage. If you are set on CMC, go ahead. Otherwise, no ED or find another ED school.

+1

[Anonymous]

If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:williams, bowdoin, pomona do not provide any ED advantage. If WASP is your dream schools, just RD.

CMC, yes. Real ED advantage. If you are set on CMC, go ahead. Otherwise, no ED or find another ED school.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

[Anonymous]

Colleges with strong philosophy programs include Claremont McKenna, Hamilton and Amherst.

[Anonymous]

Why not the best liberal arts college in the country: Amherst College. I'm not even sure CMC has a philosophy program-definitely not at the level of Amherst-where students get into top grad schools every year

[Anonymous]

For a lightly subscribed major such as philosophy, you may want to consider the size of the philosophy communities at potential choices. As a rough indicator for this, these are the numbers of graduating first majors in philosophy in a recent year (e.g., https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Claremont+McKenna&s=all&id=112260#programs) for the schools you have named along with two others that have been suggested:

Hamilton: 11
Wesleyan: 10
Amherst: 8
Middlebury: 8
Pomona: 7
CMC: 6
Williams: 4
Bowdoin: 3

[Anonymous]

Scared for the response, but CMC seriously has built one of the best undergrad philosophy departments in the nation. It has a near 1:1 student-tenured-track faculty member ratio and some of the faculty members are heavy hitters (Rima Basu, Amy Kind, James Kernes, Suzanne Obdrzalek, Briana Toole). I'd read this article about the department: https://www.cmc.edu/magazine/cmc-magazine-spring-2025/faculty-news#exploring-ideas-that-last

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a lightly subscribed major such as philosophy, you may want to consider the size of the philosophy communities at potential choices. As a rough indicator for this, these are the numbers of graduating first majors in philosophy in a recent year (e.g., https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Claremont+McKenna&s=all&id=112260#programs) for the schools you have named along with two others that have been suggested:

Hamilton: 11
Wesleyan: 10
Amherst: 8
Middlebury: 8
Pomona: 7
CMC: 6
Williams: 4
Bowdoin: 3

To add, here's the size of each college
Hamilton: 2053 (0.5%)
Wesleyan: 3000 (0.33%)
Amherst:1914 (0.4%)
Middlebury: 2800 (0.29%)
Pomona: 1732 (0.4%)
CMC: 1381 (0.4%)
Williams: 2101 (0.19%)
Bowdoin: 2044 (0.15%)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a lightly subscribed major such as philosophy, you may want to consider the size of the philosophy communities at potential choices. As a rough indicator for this, these are the numbers of graduating first majors in philosophy in a recent year (e.g., https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Claremont+McKenna&s=all&id=112260#programs) for the schools you have named along with two others that have been suggested:

Hamilton: 11
Wesleyan: 10
Amherst: 8
Middlebury: 8
Pomona: 7
CMC: 6
Williams: 4
Bowdoin: 3

To add, here's the size of each college
Hamilton: 2053 (0.5%)
Wesleyan: 3000 (0.33%)
Amherst:1914 (0.4%)
Middlebury: 2800 (0.29%)
Pomona: 1732 (0.4%)
CMC: 1381 (0.4%)
Williams: 2101 (0.19%)
Bowdoin: 2044 (0.15%)

This represents a nicely numerate contribution. I'll add that the percentages can be multiplied by 4 for school-wide perspectives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

Broaden up the scope in your campus visit to include at least a couple of national universities. Johns Hopkins for one, which has some significant ED1/ED2 advantage. Our schools sent a few ED there every year. Northwestern also has a top philosophy department, ED advantage is real there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

Broaden up the scope in your campus visit to include at least a couple of national universities. Johns Hopkins for one, which has some significant ED1/ED2 advantage. Our schools sent a few ED there every year. Northwestern also has a top philosophy department, ED advantage is real there.

For what reason? If the boy enjoys liberal arts colleges, no necessity to go to a research university, especially in a field like Philosophy. No one suggests LACs when people's lists are entirely Research universities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

Broaden up the scope in your campus visit to include at least a couple of national universities. Johns Hopkins for one, which has some significant ED1/ED2 advantage. Our schools sent a few ED there every year. Northwestern also has a top philosophy department, ED advantage is real there.

For what reason? If the boy enjoys liberal arts colleges, no necessity to go to a research university, especially in a field like Philosophy. No one suggests LACs when people's lists are entirely Research universities.

OP said DC hasn't done campus visit yet, it's all very premature.
As long as it a good fit, I don't think one should care it's a lac or a research university.
Quite honest, I don't get it when folks say it's hard for one to love both Penn and Williams.