Intersection of religion and politics
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From my observation, here is how it seems various religious people in America vote. By no means is this applicable to every person, only generally, and some can be in more than one category. I am sure on the internet somewhere, someone has done a more thorough analysis.
Republicans Believe abortion and homosexuality are sinful and immoral. Support tradtional family values. Humans are not causing Climate Change. Humans did not evolve from lower primates but were created by God, both male and female (because you cannot have a male evolve then a million years later a female--no mating could occur). Trans-women are not women; trans-men are not men. By the way, this is why I vote Republican, even if the presidential candidate is severely flawed. I vote for the party platform as a whole, not for individuals per se, because the party will place judges and leaders who will follow this platform moreso than Democrats who are (in my eyes) the party of Sodom and Gomorrah. Fundamentalist Christians Born-again, bible-believing, true believers. The bible is the ultimate authority on faith, morals, and human origins. Many do not want to see a union of church and state given the example of Islamic states, and the Medieval Catholic church which murdered millions of fundamentalist Christians through its political apparatus. When religion becomes a criteria for office, you get ambitious, egotists using religion as a cloak to get elected rather than God-fearing, righteous individuals. Some examples: Ken Ham, Voddie Baucham, Gino Jennings, John MacArthur Evangelical Christians Similar to Fundamentalists but want the government to back their religion as a weapon against political enemies and unbelievers. They are often ignorant of history and generally ignorant concerning the bible, followers more of church leaders than Jesus Christ. They are usually good people who mean well, salt-o'-the-earth types, but their zeal is misplaced, operationg from the flesh instead of the spirit of God in many cases. Main examples: Jerry Falwell, T.D. Jakes, Paula White, Joel Osteen. Mormons Almost identical to Evangelicals except their Jesus is the brother of Satan, and Joseph Smith's bible their holy text. Mormons are honest, hard-working people but don't see that they have fallen for "another gospel", cannot see the religous fraud Joseph Smith perpretrated. The only reason Joseph Smith wrote his book in King James English (not his native language) is so that people would equate his book with the Bible so as to better perpretrate his fraudulent religion, the goal of which was to indulge his fantasy of having multiple wives. Evangelical Catholics Similar to Evangelicals and some Fundamentalists but Catholic Tradition and its Catechism is given more weight than scripture. The Pope is ruler of the universe. They attend Mass regularly. Some examples: Bishop Sheen, Bishop Sarah, Fr. Burbidge, the Bishop of Arlington. Conservative or Masorti Jews Similar to Fundamentalist Christians but exclude Jesus and the New Testament. 22% of Jews voted for Trump. Some examples: Rabbi Zecharias Frankel, Rabbi J.B. Sacks Democrats Believe abortion and homosexuality are normal and acceptable, not sinful. Morality is relative, and values should evolve relative to our modern times. Humans are causing Climate Change and if we do not do something soon, a catastrophe will occur. Humans evolved over millions of years from the lower primates according to Science, which in all cases is to be believed over the Bible. Trans-women are women; trans-men are men. Atheists, Agnostics Included here becasue they are religous-like in their belief that there is no evidence for God, and they vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Main examples: Peter Hitchins, Carl Sagan, P.Z. Myers Rainbow Flag churches The Bible is just a bunch of metaphors and myths, not the word of God. If you feel you are a good person then you are good; God will bring you to heaven because your intentions are what counts, not your belief in Jesus or obeying commandments. The only sin is not being tolerant of others, unless they are Fundamentalist Christians then it is okay to discriminate and exclude them from all areas of public life. Main examples: Paul Abels, John Neil Alexander, Eva Brunne Liberal/Progressive Catholics Also called "Cafeteria Catholics" or Catholic-In-Name-Only (CINO). Similar to the Rainbow Flag churces but remain Catholic usually for family reasons. They hope one day to overthrow its traditons of male-only priests and restrictions on abortion, homosexuality, and birth control. They rarely attend mass except for weddings, funerals, Christmas, and Easter. They identify more with Agnostics than Fundamentalist Christians. Main Examples: Joe Biden, Pope Francis Secular Jews Summarized: very much like Cafeteria Catholics. Mammon is their true God. These Jews can best be described as, "Atheists fanatically loyal to a religious family tradition." They are found to be the movers and shakers of Marxism. 78% of Jews voted for Kamala Harris. Examples: Ahad Ha'am, Bernie Sanders Well, that is how I see it. I am no theologian, not saying this is 100% accurate (especially concerning Catholics and Jews) and again, not saying it applies to everyone. For the record, I am a Fundamentalist Christian. I vote Republican in presidential elections but I do not vote in every local election that comes around. I see a presidential election like the Super Bowl: I pull for a team and if they win, "Yay!" but if they lose "Aw shucks, maybe next time." God gives people the leader they deserve. |
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My late mother was a Republican. She was active in local politics. She did not believe anything you describe.
What calls itself Republican now is something else. Probably because it's easier to usurp a label than forge a new one. |
Anonymous
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A lot of people use "religious labels" to bundle their politics under a better label than they would normally get. Mammon? Marxism
BTW Roy Cohn, commie- and homo-hunter was a self-hating Jew. |
Anonymous
| TL;DR. |
Anonymous
PS: CHRISTOPHER Hitchins and Carl Sagan are both dead. Have been for a long time. |
Anonymous
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There is no "republican party"
The United States is and always has been a country ruled by the United States Constitution. Once the Republican party decided that the President did not need to take that oath seriously, they were no longer a political party. They are the party of treason, Christian Nationalism, and Putin. Trump saying he will be doing a "fourth year" is UnAmerican to it's core not one Republican said a word and Republicans will install him whether there is a vote or note so again there is no reality a Republican party exists currently. From your post, one can see you are an idiot, who has limited intelligence and believes FOX $786 million lies, in a court of law, the bible hand on oath stands, and you fake Christians are not Jesus followers, you are in a cult. |
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One more thing, there is no "intersection"
One of the primary principles our nation was founded upon is "freedom of religion", and that means ALL religions.. and the absence of religion as well. Christianity is NOT the basis of our nation, nor of our Constitution, as you can plainly see in the words of the Founding Fathers. On Memorial Day, let us remember and pay tribute to the servicemembers of every race, origin, religion, and creed who made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Freedom isn't free - we all are forever indebted to their bravery and courage. |
Anonymous
| There are more religious people than just Christians, Jews and Atheists. |
Anonymous
| You think humans are not causing climate change? Yowza |
Anonymous
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Correction
Republicans Were taught (starting in the 80’s ) abortion and homosexuality are sinful and immoral to get them to vote Republican. It’s not a religious teaching. It was a political strategy . It was the Evangelical strategy just like the Southern Strategy. (If you are republican and don’t know what the Southern strategy is… you need to look it up. Once you educate yourself on that, then educate yourself on the evangelical strategy) Support tradtional family values. (They run on traditional family values, but they do not support traditional values. They don’t pass any laws that support traditional family values,. They are closeted homosexuals, they cheat on their wives with men. They cheat on their wives with prostitutes. They have multiple marriages and they have many children from many different marriages…. And then they don’t pass any laws that help families. Humans are not causing Climate Change. Humans did not evolve from lower primates but were created by God, both male and female (because you cannot have a male evolve then a million years later a female--no mating could occur). Hey, listen I don’t like Maga Republicans, but I don’t even think most of them are stupid enough to think climate change is not caused by humans. I know that RINO Republicans know that climate change is caused by humans. The difference between Republicans and Democrats Republicans don’t wanna do anything about it. They don’t care they don’t think it’s gonna affect them in their lifetime even though the fires and the hurricanes and the floods are ready kill them. Trans-women are not women; trans-men are not men. MAGA republicans are just too stupid to know the difference between sex and gender. By the way, this is why I vote Republican, even if the presidential candidate is severely flawed. I vote for the party platform as a whole, not for individuals per se, because the party will place judges and leaders who will follow this platform moreso than Democrats who are (in my eyes) the party of Sodom and Gomorrah. You’re exactly what the Republicans are looking for you believe what they say. You don’t even see what they do. They are the party of sodom Gomorrah look at them. They break gay dating apps when they are all at a conference. They have multiple families. They have ex-wives hate their guts. Their fathers hate them. They are not pro-life. They pay for abortions, they kill women, they starve people and other countries, they pay for weapons to kill innocent people. |
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OP here.
#1 Yes, Christopher Hitchins. Peter Hitchens was in my mind for some reason. Sagan and others are dead but are considered authorities and still quoted. I see our resident Atheist is on top of things. #2 I am aware of other religious groups but do not have enough information and the post was long enough as someone who posted tl;dr indicated that it was too long. #3 The majority of the founding fathers were Bible-believing Christians, some were preachers. You cannot deny the influence of Christianity upon America’s founding. #4 I do not watch Fox news but I do watch Sky News Australia sometimes. #5 I truly do follow Jesus but not the weak, permissive, do-what-thou-wilst, everyone-gets-to-heaven Liberal unBiblical Jesus. #6 Climate Change is the same repackaged baloney as The Coming Ice Age, Global Warming, Population bomb, and all the rest of that boogey-man, Chicken Little nonsense. The majority of Climate Whiners who use climate fear to push an agenda are almost wholly in the Democratic party. #7 The source of homosexuality being a sin is the Bible, not the Republican party. Even Nature teaches that it is wrong, for it is biologically impossible for two people of the same sex “mating” with one another to produce a baby. #8 Gender is based upon sex of which there are only two. Only male + female produces a baby. Even children understand this simple biological truth. #9 I acknowledge there are people in the Republican party who spout Christian and family values to get votes and are no different morally than Democrats. However, the Republican platform at least speaks up. Roe vs Wade was repealed. #10 There is indeed an intersection of political beliefs with religious beliefs which explain why certain religious groups vote the way they do. #11 Iam giving a Fundamentalist Christian viewpoint in good faith: I believe what I wrote is true but acknowledge I can be mistaken, such as saying Peter instead of Christopher. |
Anonymous
| Do you think your views are generally reflective of most Fundamentalist Christians? Do you have any real friends (not just acquaintances) who are not Fundamentalist Christians? |
Anonymous
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So.much.stupid.
JFC. |
Anonymous
There is more than one atheist on the DCUM religion forum. Some of us were once fundamentalist Christians. |
Anonymous
| You are a complete idiot but I guess we do get the govt we deserve |