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Anonymous
If you’re quoting a very small minority of the protestors, try harder. People spew crazy crap all the time and it doesn’t make other people physically UNSAFE. Let’s get real. |
Anonymous
Speaking of propaganda - how much are you being paid to spew it by the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights? Consider Malak Afaneh, a law student at the University of California, Berkeley, and Craig Birckhead-Morton, a senior at Yale. Ms. Afaneh went viral this month for disrupting a dinner at Dean Erwin Chemerinsky’s home. This week the Yale Daily News reported that Mr. Birckhead-Morton had been arrested for trespassing—and then re-emerged to address an anti-Israel crowd blocking an intersection in New Haven. Ms. Afaneh and Mr. Birckhead-Morton have both been “youth fellows” of the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights, whose website identifies them by their first names. As of April 4, the campaign was soliciting applications for a new cohort, whose “campus-based fellows” would receive stipends of $2,880 to $3,360 for three-month terms of roughly eight hours of work a week. That “work” could include aiding campaigns that “demand federal or state politicians cut US military, financial, or diplomatic ties with Israel.” The corporate entity behind these fellowships is Education for Just Peace in the Middle East. Where does it get its funding? George and Alexander Soros’s Open Society Foundation has put $700,000 into Education for Just Peace in the Middle East since 2018, most recently with a two-year grant in 2022, according to the Open Society Foundation’s website. The Rockefeller Brothers Fund has given Education for Just Peace in the Middle East $515,000 since 2019, most recently with a three-year grant for $225,000 awarded in August 2023. https://www.wsj.com/articles/some-anti-israel-protesters-are-paid-soros-rockefeller-funding-activism-hamas-fba26c20?st=nfv2vofcmqjsc6r&reflink=article_copyURL_share |
Anonymous
DP. Try addressing what the PP said. If these threats had been made against any other group, you’d be outraged. But since he’s “only” threatening Jews, you’re a-ok with it. We all see how none of you have condemned this terrorist. |
Anonymous
I absolutely believe that most of the protesters are peaceful. However, we've now seen literally hundreds examples of support for violence or threats of violence. Again, if the shoe were on the other foot, the left would ABSOLUTELY be screaming bloody murder. So, let's agree on a consistent approach here. Two choices: 1. We agree that protests involving significant quantities of violent rhetoric are a real danger, or 2. We allow such protests to proceed without canceling, regardless of political position? Which approach do you prefer? |
Anonymous
+100 Hamas and Hezbollah are gleeful that their useful idiots are spewing their propaganda for them, all over the world. |
Anonymous
So many examples of this. But because Jews are targeted, these incidents are minimized and downplayed. It's disgusting. |
Anonymous
I guess this will be the one time a clown like you can one-up me, I guess, since you’re a racist terrorist of a fraud, promoting a culture your ancestors co-opted and stole from actual historical figures. |
Anonymous
You're not even talking to the same person. I was the person who originally asked the question. That was some other guy (and seemingly a few others who think you are a bit lost). This is the USA. Free speech is allowed and encouraged. It is UNACCEPTABLE to demand Americans lose their job over their stance on a political issue. WE HAVE A BILL OF RIGHTS to protect us for that very reason... |
Anonymous
My ancestors? Are Swedes involved in this in some way? |
Anonymous
I think you need a basic refresher on the Bill of Rights. Do a bit of research and circle back. |
Anonymous
Zionists are not the same as Jews. |
Anonymous
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One thing to keep in mind, for perspective, is that a vast majority of college students are likely to have views that are quite different from the protestors.
I have a kid at one of the Ivies where the protests are occurring. According to him, none among his large group of friends and anyone else he knows personally would dream of join these protestors, who they see as the radical types - a tiny but loud and habitually aggrieved minority on campus who happen to protest a lot and take extreme positions on every issue. It's also common knowledge that the protests include a large number of outside agitators, especially if the campus is in a big city. My son says that he would join a peace vigil, as he and his friends did the day after Oct 7. He also thinks if there were a gathering of students where they clearly call for peace on all sides - Israel to stop bombing, Hamas to release all the hostages, and both sides to pledge a commitment to co-existence and take steps toward that, he and all his friends would join. To be clear, these are mostly liberals and moderates, not Trumpies. They just might be the silent majority who want the war to end, but do not blame one side for it exclusively and are disgusted by Hamas and the Israeli far-right including Bibi. They also think it's genuinely asinine to ask universities to stop academic partnerships with Israeli universities, which includes research on things that are important for human progress. One of his pals, who has been to one of these universities for research in an area of medical science, thinks that demand just by itself removes any claim to seriousness of these protests. This student also points out that the universities are the bastions of liberal and progressive movements in Israel, and students there would find it demoralizing that the so-called "left" here is screaming for their colleges to sever connections with them. |
Anonymous
So it's ok to threaten to kill every Israeli and everyone who believes that Israel should exist? I thought the protesters opposed genocide and deliberately killing civilians. Confusing. |
Anonymous
New poster, but I dramatically prefer the 2nd approach. This is a fundamental freedom that sets the US apart. Free speech means sometimes offensive speech. |
Anonymous
Sure, Jan. We found the one Swede who instinctively plays the terrorist card or the anti-semite card after someone calls them out for regurgitating Zionist propaganda. You probably are pasty and blue-eyed, though, I’ll give you that. But you’re about as Swedish as the famous fish. |