APS Closing Nottingham

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Nottingham hadn't fought so hard against being an option school 7 years ago, and had allowed the board to make it an option school since that was the best plan geographically, we could have avoided a bunch of the school reshuffling nonsense that's happened since then. But noooooo, Nottingham was too precious. Love how the PP above turned this into the fault of Cardinal/McKinley, when the problem happened in the first place because of selfish Nottingham parents.

Now the school is dreadfully underenrolled and even now Nottingham parents cannot seem to accept reality. Under 400 kids!! A kindergarten enrollment last year at 50 kids -- that's just 2 classes -- and similar numbers in another higher grade. The plan is not to scrap the school, but to use it on a temporary basis to help other schools in the community while the Nottingham kids go to other walkable nearby schools like Discovery! And even then, listen to these parents squeal as though their families are being torn apart and some terrible injustice has been done to them.

Have some perspective and just deal. Worse things have happened in Arlington. Your kids will be perfectly fine. As well as your property values. smdh

Tell me again why Cardinal could not have been the location for the choice school?

[Anonymous]

Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

[Anonymous]

"But WHHYYYYYYY couldn't the bad thing happen to anyone else except us here at Nottingham???"

[Anonymous]

Serious question— Nottingham is about the same size as Randolph, Long Branch, Drew, MPSA, and Campbell. I know that list includes option schools, but why does this board talk about Nottingham like it’s some kind of wild outlier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Nottingham hadn't fought so hard against being an option school 7 years ago, and had allowed the board to make it an option school since that was the best plan geographically, we could have avoided a bunch of the school reshuffling nonsense that's happened since then. But noooooo, Nottingham was too precious. Love how the PP above turned this into the fault of Cardinal/McKinley, when the problem happened in the first place because of selfish Nottingham parents.

Now the school is dreadfully underenrolled and even now Nottingham parents cannot seem to accept reality. Under 400 kids!! A kindergarten enrollment last year at 50 kids -- that's just 2 classes -- and similar numbers in another higher grade. The plan is not to scrap the school, but to use it on a temporary basis to help other schools in the community while the Nottingham kids go to other walkable nearby schools like Discovery! And even then, listen to these parents squeal as though their families are being torn apart and some terrible injustice has been done to them.

Have some perspective and just deal. Worse things have happened in Arlington. Your kids will be perfectly fine. As well as your property values. smdh

Get rid of the option schools. Everyone wins, except the people who bought very expensive houses zoned for marginal schools. They might have to invest a little time and effort locally. But everyone else wins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"But WHHYYYYYYY couldn't the bad thing happen to anyone else except us here at Nottingham???"

I know you think you’re being witty, but it’s tiresome, it really is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

It was planned and could have been option location, but it was not because the school board promised Westover a neighborhood school. I guess that was Nottingham’s fault, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

Stop being dense. You know I'm asking about the location where Cardinal is now. Why could that not have been the location of a choice school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

It was planned and could have been option location, but it was not because the school board promised Westover a neighborhood school. I guess that was Nottingham’s fault, too.

That seems to be the root of the problem. Once they made Cardinal neighborhood, there are too many neighborhood seats in this one part of the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Nottingham hadn't fought so hard against being an option school 7 years ago, and had allowed the board to make it an option school since that was the best plan geographically, we could have avoided a bunch of the school reshuffling nonsense that's happened since then. But noooooo, Nottingham was too precious. Love how the PP above turned this into the fault of Cardinal/McKinley, when the problem happened in the first place because of selfish Nottingham parents.

Now the school is dreadfully underenrolled and even now Nottingham parents cannot seem to accept reality. Under 400 kids!! A kindergarten enrollment last year at 50 kids -- that's just 2 classes -- and similar numbers in another higher grade. The plan is not to scrap the school, but to use it on a temporary basis to help other schools in the community while the Nottingham kids go to other walkable nearby schools like Discovery! And even then, listen to these parents squeal as though their families are being torn apart and some terrible injustice has been done to them.

Have some perspective and just deal. Worse things have happened in Arlington. Your kids will be perfectly fine. As well as your property values. smdh

Get rid of the option schools. Everyone wins, except the people who bought very expensive houses zoned for marginal schools. They might have to invest a little time and effort locally. But everyone else wins.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:We get it, the McCrazies are now the ones who hate this ape group. Now, back to the topic of Nottingham....

Is this what you APEs tell yourselves in your insular privileged little group? You really have no idea how the rest of Arlington perceives you?

It would see they are perceived quite well given their founder is going to be on the school board.

Only because she was running against a child.

Yep I thought we covered this elsewhere. Turner got spanked by Kadera, didn't even run against Sutton (did she know she couldn't win?) and things were not looking good in this race when she was up against an actual viable candidate. Then she got lucky when that candidate had to drop out for personal reasons, and her only opponent was a 20 something with no ties to Arlington. Even so, Turner wasn't able to pick up the endorsement of the AEA or the board chair, and a substantial bloc voted for her opponent.

Not actually a ringing endorsement from the community.

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Have the candidates for school board taken a position on the closure of Nottingham?

I'd expect Turner's supporters would want/expect this from her, given the overlap between APE and the 22207 Notties.

No idea where the other guy is on this. Anyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

Stop being dense. You know I'm asking about the location where Cardinal is now. Why could that not have been the location of a choice school?

So you think all 3 of the schools located in that area -- old McKinley, old ATS, and new Cardinal -- should have been option schools? Because that's the only way the numbers really change -- old McKinley was about 700 kids, same as Cardinal, so unless you're making both of them into option schools along with old ATS, it seems unlikely shifting Cardinal to an option school but keeping old McKinley as a local would have that much of an affect on Nottingham's numbers. Note that Ashlawn isn't oversubscribed anymore.

I don't understand why you would think that, but also think that Nottingham -- which is so so close to 3 other local elementary schools -- should be preserved as a local school rather than an option. Why have all the elementary schools anywhere near Westover be option schools but Nottingham needs to be a local?

And if you DON'T think that, but are just complaining that if either McKinley or Cardinal was going to get turned into an option school, you think it should have been the school YOU preferred rather than the one the board chose ... after you complained and complained and complained so that the board would aim it's option school hat in the direction of McKinley/Westover in the first place ... yeah, have no sympathy for you there. You can't escape the hangman's noose by implicating someone else and then get mad when they pick some other poor fool to hang instead. Nice try though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

It was planned and could have been option location, but it was not because the school board promised Westover a neighborhood school. I guess that was Nottingham’s fault, too.

That seems to be the root of the problem. Once they made Cardinal neighborhood, there are too many neighborhood seats in this one part of the county.

Yes, absolutely. Surely that is the problem with underenrollment in 22207 as opposed to Discovery and Nottingham being right on top of one another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Cardinal didn't exist 7 years ago but go off.

Stop being dense. You know I'm asking about the location where Cardinal is now. Why could that not have been the location of a choice school?

So you think all 3 of the schools located in that area -- old McKinley, old ATS, and new Cardinal -- should have been option schools? Because that's the only way the numbers really change -- old McKinley was about 700 kids, same as Cardinal, so unless you're making both of them into option schools along with old ATS, it seems unlikely shifting Cardinal to an option school but keeping old McKinley as a local would have that much of an affect on Nottingham's numbers. Note that Ashlawn isn't oversubscribed anymore.

I don't understand why you would think that, but also think that Nottingham -- which is so so close to 3 other local elementary schools -- should be preserved as a local school rather than an option. Why have all the elementary schools anywhere near Westover be option schools but Nottingham needs to be a local?

And if you DON'T think that, but are just complaining that if either McKinley or Cardinal was going to get turned into an option school, you think it should have been the school YOU preferred rather than the one the board chose ... after you complained and complained and complained so that the board would aim it's option school hat in the direction of McKinley/Westover in the first place ... yeah, have no sympathy for you there. You can't escape the hangman's noose by implicating someone else and then get mad when they pick some other poor fool to hang instead. Nice try though.

What are you so worked up about? Seems to me McKinley families got a pretty good deal. The school moved nearly intact to a brand new building, and gave their crumbling old mess to ATS.