ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

BY crowd is trying hard on mental gymnastics convince themselves MLSN will stay in BY. It is good for mental health for the next 2 months.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

BY crowd are delusional

Parents on both sides are delusional. MLSNext doesn't care what all these By and Sy parents want. MLSN didn't want to change to SY tho. That is fact. One reason is for tournaments with more competitive, international teams. Generation Adidas Cup is coming up and features many international clubs. How would that hold up if MLSN switches to birth year? They gonna require international teams to align with the US school year?

Aligning with the majority of the world was one of the main reasons for the BY switch. MLSN doesn't have to change to school year if they don't want. And for hybrid MLSN and Club orgs, MLSN will still have a pool of players where they know everyone's birth dates. It really isn't as hard as some make it out to be.

I don't know what MLSN will do and won't be surprised if they switch to BY or SY, but whatever happens it'll be based on money.

Most p2p MLSN clubs are not qualified to play GA cup. In our 2 years exp in a p2p MLSN club, we never played any international teams. Other teams in my club have to pay for an International trip to play Mic cup and etc and you can have 2 older players, so SY will still work.

BY people trying to act like Premier league doesn't exist, and isn't based on a Sep.-Aug. model.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

BY crowd is trying hard on mental gymnastics convince themselves MLSN will stay in BY. It is good for mental health for the next 2 months.

I think most have moved on and preparing for the change. Much of this thread now -- to quote Bill Murray -- "It just doesn't matter."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

BY crowd is trying hard on mental gymnastics convince themselves MLSN will stay in BY. It is good for mental health for the next 2 months.

Why does anyone care if MLSN stays By? They have biobanding so your kids can play down now if you wanted?

ECNL and the other leagues are strict with following BY so it makes sense people would want them to change to whatever favors their kid.

Also for what it’s worth MLSN/GA are staying BY and GA will add “late developer” for all age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

BY crowd is trying hard on mental gymnastics convince themselves MLSN will stay in BY. It is good for mental health for the next 2 months.

Why does anyone care if MLSN stays By? They have biobanding so your kids can play down now if you wanted?

ECNL and the other leagues are strict with following BY so it makes sense people would want them to change to whatever favors their kid.

Also for what it’s worth MLSN/GA are staying BY and GA will add “late developer” for all age groups.

What is "late developer"? How you can have a late developer at 17 on the girls side? Seems like a rule ripe for abuse. Just go SY or BY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

BY crowd is trying hard on mental gymnastics convince themselves MLSN will stay in BY. It is good for mental health for the next 2 months.

Why does anyone care if MLSN stays By? They have biobanding so your kids can play down now if you wanted?

ECNL and the other leagues are strict with following BY so it makes sense people would want them to change to whatever favors their kid.

Also for what it’s worth MLSN/GA are staying BY and GA will add “late developer” for all age groups.

What is "late developer"? How you can have a late developer at 17 on the girls side? Seems like a rule ripe for abuse. Just go SY or BY.

Should have all the info by June. But will only be abused if GA allows it to be.
Also sounds like GA will not allow clubs to use guest or discovery players for more than 2 games per season.

Also If you play GA you only can guest play up to 5 games a year outside your own team. Unless it’s an ODP or regional team.Which won’t count against those 5 games.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You don't understand because you are dumb. My kid's team will become MLS2. If MLS2 stays BY, how are we going to play a big tournament like the Surf Cup? Will we spend money to fly there and to play up and be destroyed?

They (USSF) and all the other big leagues are literally working on all the details for how that will work. MLSN is staying BY with biobanding option.

BY crowd is trying hard on mental gymnastics convince themselves MLSN will stay in BY. It is good for mental health for the next 2 months.

Why does anyone care if MLSN stays By? They have biobanding so your kids can play down now if you wanted?

ECNL and the other leagues are strict with following BY so it makes sense people would want them to change to whatever favors their kid.

Also for what it’s worth MLSN/GA are staying BY and GA will add “late developer” for all age groups.

What is "late developer"? How you can have a late developer at 17 on the girls side? Seems like a rule ripe for abuse. Just go SY or BY.

Should have all the info by June. But will only be abused if GA allows it to be.
Also sounds like GA will not allow clubs to use guest or discovery players for more than 2 games per season.

Also If you play GA you only can guest play up to 5 games a year outside your own team. Unless it’s an ODP or regional team.Which won’t count against those 5 games.

So it sounds like it is de facto SY. Unless they are going to make girls submit to exams. Gross.

[Anonymous]

ECNL GA MLSN2 all seem concerned about cross league play and poaching.


Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

It's a legitimate question; how will they fuse the two registrations together?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

Poor BY parent…it’s ok…you have another year of your kid playing against kids a grade below…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

It's a legitimate question; how will they fuse the two registrations together?

Do they really need to "fuse" the organizations together? They're not actually "together" now by just having the same age registration.

It's still the same overall pool of players under the organization. The birth dates of kids doesn't change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao MLSN doesn't care about all these mommie and daddy concerns about age alignment with D teams in rec leagues. They've always been in favor of BY and this is why US Soccer said different leagues can follow their own age registration guidelines rather than mandating SY for all.

All the speculation about MLSN having to go to SY is wishful thinking from parents of Q4 kids who think their kid is suddenly gonna be signed by DC United academy because of this change.

Poor BY parent…it’s ok…you have another year of your kid playing against kids a grade below…

I have very young kids born in both Aug and Sept - both on other ends of cutoff. I don't have grandiose aspirations of college or MLS for them at age 7 and 8 - lol. I actually think SY is a good change.

Good luck on your pursuit to DC United. But here's a newsflash for you. If you have an Sept kid, he didn't suddenly get better just by playing down. If you have an Aug kid, he didn't suddenly get worse by being the youngest. MLSN understands this. Parents don't.