ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

BY crowd are delusional

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

BY crowd are delusional

Parents on both sides are delusional. MLSNext doesn't care what all these By and Sy parents want. MLSN didn't want to change to SY tho. That is fact. One reason is for tournaments with more competitive, international teams. Generation Adidas Cup is coming up and features many international clubs. How would that hold up if MLSN switches to birth year? They gonna require international teams to align with the US school year?

Aligning with the majority of the world was one of the main reasons for the BY switch. MLSN doesn't have to change to school year if they don't want. And for hybrid MLSN and Club orgs, MLSN will still have a pool of players where they know everyone's birth dates. It really isn't as hard as some make it out to be.

I don't know what MLSN will do and won't be surprised if they switch to BY or SY, but whatever happens it'll be based on money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

Well, one advantage for MLSN not changing to SY is... Not having to change and reorganize teams.

Another advantage is sticking to their goals of being a pro pathway by staying aligned with the rest of the world - pathways up to their academy teams, and possibly even for international academies. Then there's also tourneys with international competition.

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Come play here in our By league and get trapped!!!! Awesome….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come play here in our By league and get trapped!!!! Awesome….

MLS Next, being in favor of BY, obviously doesn't care about the trapped player issue. Their mission is pro pathway development. They don't care if kids play for the school team or not, or if 6th grade Timmy wants to play with school buddies.

They care about establishing competitive feeder programs to academies and semi-pro clubs.

This change is lose lose for MLS Next though. If they stay at BY, they don't align with lower youth teams. If they switch to SY, they don't align with academies in the US and abroad. They'll have to choose the lesser of two evils that better serves their mission of staying on the pro pathway track.

But their decision will likely not be based on logistics and the need to align with lesser quality clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come play here in our By league and get trapped!!!! Awesome….

MLS Next, being in favor of BY, obviously doesn't care about the trapped player issue. Their mission is pro pathway development. They don't care if kids play for the school team or not, or if 6th grade Timmy wants to play with school buddies.

They care about establishing competitive feeder programs to academies and semi-pro clubs.

This change is lose lose for MLS Next though. If they stay at BY, they don't align with lower youth teams. If they switch to SY, they don't align with academies in the US and abroad. They'll have to choose the lesser of two evils that better serves their mission of staying on the pro pathway track.

But their decision will likely not be based on logistics and the need to align with lesser quality clubs.

One would think if player participation increases, as is hoped, they'll still be enough Q1/Q2 elite players to pick from within the SY system to compete internationally and perhaps picked early enough to ensure they continue to develop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come play here in our By league and get trapped!!!! Awesome….

MLS Next, being in favor of BY, obviously doesn't care about the trapped player issue. Their mission is pro pathway development. They don't care if kids play for the school team or not, or if 6th grade Timmy wants to play with school buddies.

They care about establishing competitive feeder programs to academies and semi-pro clubs.

This change is lose lose for MLS Next though. If they stay at BY, they don't align with lower youth teams. If they switch to SY, they don't align with academies in the US and abroad. They'll have to choose the lesser of two evils that better serves their mission of staying on the pro pathway track.

But their decision will likely not be based on logistics and the need to align with lesser quality clubs.

One would think if player participation increases, as is hoped, they'll still be enough Q1/Q2 elite players to pick from within the SY system to compete internationally and perhaps picked early enough to ensure they continue to develop.

Exactly. And participation is already on the rise. There will be enough quality players, regardless of which quarter someone is born in. The BY to SY change, and whether MLS N changes to SY or not, doesn't really alter to pool of players to choose from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come play here in our By league and get trapped!!!! Awesome….

Players on a pro pathway probably don't get trapped because they don't play HS. This is even becoming true now on the girls side.

[Anonymous]

I guess ECNL is calling clubs and making deals to try and get boys clubs to join and are bringing in girls clubs to RL for a year and will let a bunch in for 26/27.

Sounds like there will be a line drawn your club is either MLSN/GA or ECNL will not allow both clubs will start being put on notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

BY crowd are delusional

Parents on both sides are delusional. MLSNext doesn't care what all these By and Sy parents want. MLSN didn't want to change to SY tho. That is fact. One reason is for tournaments with more competitive, international teams. Generation Adidas Cup is coming up and features many international clubs. How would that hold up if MLSN switches to birth year? They gonna require international teams to align with the US school year?

Aligning with the majority of the world was one of the main reasons for the BY switch. MLSN doesn't have to change to school year if they don't want. And for hybrid MLSN and Club orgs, MLSN will still have a pool of players where they know everyone's birth dates. It really isn't as hard as some make it out to be.

I don't know what MLSN will do and won't be surprised if they switch to BY or SY, but whatever happens it'll be based on money.

Most p2p MLSN clubs are not qualified to play GA cup. In our 2 years exp in a p2p MLSN club, we never played any international teams. Other teams in my club have to pay for an International trip to play Mic cup and etc and you can have 2 older players, so SY will still work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

I think it's just a question of the logistics of having two different registrations, if MLS has it figured out, good on them. They will have to shift with the changing landscape just like everyone else, no one will be immune.

If MLS2 is in SY and MLS in BY, it looks convoluted. I cannot name one advantage of p2p MLSN staying in BY, except to soothe BY crowds.

BY crowd are delusional

Parents on both sides are delusional. MLSNext doesn't care what all these By and Sy parents want. MLSN didn't want to change to SY tho. That is fact. One reason is for tournaments with more competitive, international teams. Generation Adidas Cup is coming up and features many international clubs. How would that hold up if MLSN switches to birth year? They gonna require international teams to align with the US school year?

Aligning with the majority of the world was one of the main reasons for the BY switch. MLSN doesn't have to change to school year if they don't want. And for hybrid MLSN and Club orgs, MLSN will still have a pool of players where they know everyone's birth dates. It really isn't as hard as some make it out to be.

I don't know what MLSN will do and won't be surprised if they switch to BY or SY, but whatever happens it'll be based on money.

The logistical hurdle they’re going to have to clear is their feeders being SY.

The q4’s are going to be the most sought after but going to have to skip from u12 to u14. They’re not going to bioband them all. It makes things tricky, bio banding COULD be a TEMPORARY fix.

End of the day q4 will fill college rosters as q1’s previously did and whichever league has them will be able to carry the crown.

Don’t see the big gripe from q1 as they’re basically only moving to q2.


Disclaimer I have q4, q2, q,3. My q4 would benefit from change to SY but he’ll most likely play up for long term development

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL deal with USSF is they will not make any changes until their new league policy changes are released in July. But ECNL is working on rules in place for Q3/4 to play down next season. No wasted year if that’s how you look at it. Players will not be required to play down.

ECNL has to wait until everyone’s tryout window time is over.

Be ready it’s coming.

BY advocates will be going into meltdown mode then. They thought they had one more year.

You’re an idiot. Why do you keep the “us vs them” thing going? The kids are all on the same teams and you’re not on it…your kid is. Are you so vicariously resentful of other kids success that you blame your kid for the birth month 9 months after you conceived? Get a grip.

the salt is real

I posted it, and I’m a SY supporter. It’s not salt dipstick. It’s calling out the lunacy of your inferiority complex. It’s so weird that you own kid triggers the complex in you make us v them birth month posts on an anonymous message board. Seek therapy.

BY crowd posing as SY supporters lol….

The Salt is Real

You’re an idiot. Anything that hurts your feelings = BY, anything that you like = SY. You’ve got problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you think MLSN will switch to SY too? (Just clarifying that that is separate from Academies.)

It’s not. Academies and Clubs are all in the same league. It’s all MLS regardless.

MLS has made it fairly clear that they don’t intend to change - hence why USSF gave 2 options - one for rec and ECNL, and one for MLSN.

What’s so fascinating to me is that now we have the SY option for ECNL, why have so many of my fellow SY folks convinced themselves that EVERYONE needs SY and that only if MLS / GA go SY will they survive…

At first we wanted it for the trapped kids in ECNL and now we want everyone else to do it too?

If p2p MLSNs stay in BY, they are stupid, or it is just your wishful thinking. MLS2 will be the same cutoff as MLS. If MLS2 can play HS soccer, then SY is a natural choice.

Why p2p MLSN have to stay in BY, to please BY parents?

Huh? MLSN has their own reasons for being BY. What is the issue? Why does it matter to you?

I don’t understand the obsession with now needing everyone to be SY?

You are not MLSN. You are just an idiot. It is written on the wall MLS2 and MLSN will be on the same cut off. You can wishful thinking it would stay in BY if it make you feel better for the remaining days till announcement.