Vance shunned by Pope Francis?

Anonymous
So is it true that JD Vance was shunned my Pope Francis for representing his country’s treatment of “illegal immigrants”?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/19/jd-vance-trump-administration-vatican-meeting-cardinal-pietro-parolin?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Anonymous
These two men should not be in the same sentence, much less room.

I don't know whether Pope Francis shunned JD or not but I applaud him he he did.

JD will be shunned by more people soon enough. I suspect by his wife and own children before long. I can't believe I ever liked the man.

Signed, a profoundly disappointed Catholic

Anonymous
JD is a fake Catholic and should be excommunicated.
Anonymous
DOGE needs to visit the vice presidents office. Taxpayers are spending a lot of money sending Vance to places where he is not welcome.
Anonymous
One of the pope’s big initiatives is supporting migrants. He’s also recovering from major illness so that softens the blow a little for JD. “Doctors orders” to keep meetings to a minimum while he’s still recovering- even though he managed to meet with King Charles a couple weeks back. Oh well!
Anonymous
Apparently they did meet today. Yesterday the pope had someone else do an extended session with JD, then today:

“U.S. Vice President JD Vance met briefly with Pope Francis on Easter Sunday as the pontiff recovers from pneumonia.“
Anonymous
Apparently the bar is very low in terms of who the pope/Vatican will meet with.

“The Vatican has one golden rule, ‘We talk with everyone, dictators, good Catholics, anyone,’” said Massimo Faggioli, Catholic theologian at Villanova University.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the bar is very low in terms of who the pope/Vatican will meet with.

“The Vatican has one golden rule, ‘We talk with everyone, dictators, good Catholics, anyone,’” said Massimo Faggioli, Catholic theologian at Villanova University.


I believe Trump had a similar practice in meeting with leaders like Kim Jong Un, President Xi, etc... as well as other politically controversial people, but was lambasted for doing so.

Or did you just pick that quote because it makes you look clever. For the record, JD Vance is a good Catholic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the bar is very low in terms of who the pope/Vatican will meet with.

“The Vatican has one golden rule, ‘We talk with everyone, dictators, good Catholics, anyone,’” said Massimo Faggioli, Catholic theologian at Villanova University.


I believe Trump had a similar practice in meeting with leaders like Kim Jong Un, President Xi, etc... as well as other politically controversial people, but was lambasted for doing so.

Or did you just pick that quote because it makes you look clever. For the record, JD Vance is a good Catholic.


“JD is a good Catholic.” Thanks for my first laugh of the day. Putin claims to be a good Orthodox Christian.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the bar is very low in terms of who the pope/Vatican will meet with.

“The Vatican has one golden rule, ‘We talk with everyone, dictators, good Catholics, anyone,’” said Massimo Faggioli, Catholic theologian at Villanova University.


I believe Trump had a similar practice in meeting with leaders like Kim Jong Un, President Xi, etc... as well as other politically controversial people, but was lambasted for doing so.

Or did you just pick that quote because it makes you look clever. For the record, JD Vance is a good Catholic.


I am Catholic. If you were, you would know that "a good Catholic" is not a thing. Certainly not a title a random internet poster can determine.

I am happy that the Pope met with JD Vance. He will speak frankly to Vance about the horrific things this administration is doing. This may be the one time, Vance will willingly agree to listen to anyone who criticizes his views.

I will not judge whether Vance is a "good Catholic" or not. But I will say, that besides disobeying the Supreme Court and disregarding our Constitution, JD Vance and the Trump administration are going against so many parts of Catholic teaching that I can't possibly list them. I'll leave it with just this one: Catholic teaching emphasizes the dignity of all human life.
Anonymous
Hahaha, Vance a good Catholic! I bet Bibles spontaneously combust when he walks in the room. No one with that much hate in his heart is a good anything.
Anonymous
If I had one person who I’d hope Vance would meet with, it would be the Pope.

Someone has got to tell him that he’s going to hell, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the bar is very low in terms of who the pope/Vatican will meet with.

“The Vatican has one golden rule, ‘We talk with everyone, dictators, good Catholics, anyone,’” said Massimo Faggioli, Catholic theologian at Villanova University.


I believe Trump had a similar practice in meeting with leaders like Kim Jong Un, President Xi, etc... as well as other politically controversial people, but was lambasted for doing so.

Or did you just pick that quote because it makes you look clever. For the record, JD Vance is a good Catholic.


+100.
Anonymous
As long as Vance avoided the “forehead embrace”, everything should be IK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the bar is very low in terms of who the pope/Vatican will meet with.

“The Vatican has one golden rule, ‘We talk with everyone, dictators, good Catholics, anyone,’” said Massimo Faggioli, Catholic theologian at Villanova University.


I believe Trump had a similar practice in meeting with leaders like Kim Jong Un, President Xi, etc... as well as other politically controversial people, but was lambasted for doing so.

Or did you just pick that quote because it makes you look clever. For the record, JD Vance is a good Catholic.


+100.


“I believe Trump had a similar practice in meeting with leaders like Kim Jong Un, President Xi, etc... as well as other politically controversial people, but was lambasted for doing so.”

A. Trump is not the pope or even the equivalent of the pope.

B. Trump is an authoritarian and has expressed admiration for other authoritarians, so it is completely consistent with his beliefs and practices that he meet with other authoritarians. The controversial people that Trump meets with, other than authoritarians, are Maga or Maga adjacent so that also tracks.
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