Hegseth Ordered Second Strike to Kill Caribbean Boat Survivors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former judge advocate. Was deployed as a lawyer in Afghanistan. Striking the boat a second time was not manifestly unlawful; therefore, the order needed followed. Not a war crime. Not murder.

That’s disgusting, if true. Expect enemy combatants to deliver the same mercy to American troops.

It is not true and PP is not a judge advocate, they just play one on the internet.

It was illegal. These are war crimes. The admiral should have resigned instead of following these orders.

Yes - really a former judge advocate. The boats can absolutely be legitimate military targets. There is no need for a declaration of war to determine something is a legitimate military target. And if the boats and drugs are not destroyed with the first missile, you can fire a second.

You must be a new MAGA hire from Scalia or Liberty then. Hired for your loyalty to the criminal-in-chief instead of the constitution. You’re a criminal too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former judge advocate. Was deployed as a lawyer in Afghanistan. Striking the boat a second time was not manifestly unlawful; therefore, the order needed followed. Not a war crime. Not murder.

That’s disgusting, if true. Expect enemy combatants to deliver the same mercy to American troops.

It is not true and PP is not a judge advocate, they just play one on the internet.

It was illegal. These are war crimes. The admiral should have resigned instead of following these orders.

Yes - really a former judge advocate. The boats can absolutely be legitimate military targets. There is no need for a declaration of war to determine something is a legitimate military target. And if the boats and drugs are not destroyed with the first missile, you can fire a second.

Former. Obviously disbarred too. That's why you're former.

[Anonymous]

Didnt this train leave the station a long, long time ago?

Does anyone really think we will be examining individuals who are involved in such operations ?

I don’t think so.

We are tracking people by air/ with sophisticated tech no one understands. You can find evidence to justify ANY decision. There is just so much data to choose from.

Yes, some foot soldiers who are in a detainee facilities will take photos. When that happens again, they will probably held to account. Same thing happened in Vietnam/Cambodia conflict. Only youngest were punished. Others returned to their golf games and homes on the cape.

We have gone too far with this to reign back these methods (whether by air or sea or digital).

[Anonymous]

Fwiw, Henry Kissinger had a summer home/retreat in Kent, Connecticut, on a property that is NOT on “The Cape.”

There lots of nice places to relax alone in the U.S. In fact, some go to congress to age in place!

[Anonymous]

Hegseth Throws Admiral Under the Bus

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/hegseth-throws-admiral-under-the-bus-suggests-navy-leader-ordered-boat-survivors-killed/

Zero chin-ups Pete makes crystal clear what a weasel he is.

"Let’s make one thing crystal clear:
Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support. I stand by him and the combat decisions he made — on the September 2 mission"

Prompting Fox News Chief Political Analyst Brit Hume to quote-tweet Hegseth and write, “How to point the finger at someone while pretending to support him.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didnt this train leave the station a long, long time ago?

Does anyone really think we will be examining individuals who are involved in such operations ?

I don’t think so.

We are tracking people by air/ with sophisticated tech no one understands. You can find evidence to justify ANY decision. There is just so much data to choose from.

Yes, some foot soldiers who are in a detainee facilities will take photos. When that happens again, they will probably held to account. Same thing happened in Vietnam/Cambodia conflict. Only youngest were punished. Others returned to their golf games and homes on the cape.

We have gone too far with this to reign back these methods (whether by air or sea or digital).

+1
There's so many ways to get out of this. The fact ICE is doing what they are doing proves it. It's why I suggested that anyone who is a diehard patriot should legit be concerned about the depth of the hole the US has fallen into..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Appears that the Mark Kelly et al video was not issued soon enough. Bradley should have followed Admiral Holsey lead, but as a white male, Admiral Bradley might be spared some leniency, whereas Holsey knew he would not. Still, Bradley needs to lawyer up, ASAP.

Bradley knew what he was doing was wrong. He’s now a war criminal and a murderer. He just stupidly thought he was part of the gang who would protect him. Only a MAGA fool would think this - we have lots of evidence that they will 100% throw you under the bus. He’s not special. He’s shown us he’s got horrendous judgment of both people and situations, he’s unprofessional, and he unethical. Strip him of his rank and retirement. He and Hegseth can learn how to cut hair at Leavenworth together.

Good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hegseth Throws Admiral Under the Bus

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/hegseth-throws-admiral-under-the-bus-suggests-navy-leader-ordered-boat-survivors-killed/

Zero chin-ups Pete makes crystal clear what a weasel he is.

"Let’s make one thing crystal clear:
Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support. I stand by him and the combat decisions he made — on the September 2 mission"

Prompting Fox News Chief Political Analyst Brit Hume to quote-tweet Hegseth and write, “How to point the finger at someone while pretending to support him.”

I wonder if he blamed his first wife for the 5 affairs he admitted to having during their marriage and for their subsequent divorce--and if he blamed his 2nd wife for their divorce after he impregnated his 3rd wife while both were married to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former judge advocate. Was deployed as a lawyer in Afghanistan. Striking the boat a second time was not manifestly unlawful; therefore, the order needed followed. Not a war crime. Not murder.

That’s disgusting, if true. Expect enemy combatants to deliver the same mercy to American troops.

It is not true and PP is not a judge advocate, they just play one on the internet.

It was illegal. These are war crimes. The admiral should have resigned instead of following these orders.

Yes - really a former judge advocate. The boats can absolutely be legitimate military targets. There is no need for a declaration of war to determine something is a legitimate military target. And if the boats and drugs are not destroyed with the first missile, you can fire a second.

DP. Shut the f up. You obviously are way over your head. The are boats are civilian and pose no threat to the US. Therefore are not legal targets by definition. That is the first war crime if we were at war. The second war crime was targeting civilians ship wreck survivors. Again this is a war crime by definition. We are not at war so this is straight up murder.

This is not a TV show. There will be consequences for everyone in the COC. This is why you have ROE to protect your troops and to not turn a tactical success in to a strategic catastrophe. Though the targeting killing of most 100 civilians is by no means a tactical success.

You can try to dance around in your F’d up maga logic but legally this is clearly criminal action. By law this one incident is two separate war crimes. Even the major posing as SecDef is running for cover. The admiral and others will face the death penalty. It just depends on who issued the orders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former judge advocate. Was deployed as a lawyer in Afghanistan. Striking the boat a second time was not manifestly unlawful; therefore, the order needed followed. Not a war crime. Not murder.

That’s disgusting, if true. Expect enemy combatants to deliver the same mercy to American troops.

It is not true and PP is not a judge advocate, they just play one on the internet.

It was illegal. These are war crimes. The admiral should have resigned instead of following these orders.

Yes - really a former judge advocate. The boats can absolutely be legitimate military targets. There is no need for a declaration of war to determine something is a legitimate military target. And if the boats and drugs are not destroyed with the first missile, you can fire a second.

You're not Trump. You can't just say moronic things and expect your fellow morons to believe them.

[Anonymous]

Consequences…. Here is a bit of history

Following his release in 1974, Lieutenant William Calley moved to GA, and lived a regular life. He stayed out of the public eye and worked at a store.

The former war criminal died in a Florida hospice last year, after his 80th birthday.

Who else was held to account after the ongoing conflict in/around Vietnam. Can we name them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former judge advocate. Was deployed as a lawyer in Afghanistan. Striking the boat a second time was not manifestly unlawful; therefore, the order needed followed. Not a war crime. Not murder.

lol sure. Legally justify the first strike- civilians in a boat posing no threat to the US. Now justify the second strike two men clinging to boat wreckage. You can not. No lawyer would give the okay on these strike because they are war crimes. You are not a former judge advocate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Consequences…. Here is a bit of history

Following his release in 1974, Lieutenant William Calley moved to GA, and lived a regular life. He stayed out of the public eye and worked at a store.

The former war criminal died in a Florida hospice last year, after his 80th birthday.

Who else was held to account after the ongoing conflict in/around Vietnam. Can we name them?

Guilty on 22 charges of murder. Released by republicans and Nixon. Glad you recognize what has happened as murder.

On March 16, 1968, Calley led around 100 soldiers of Charlie company into the village of My Lai. Although they faced no resistance, they entered the village shooting. They murdered hundreds of civilians consisting mostly of South Vietnamese elderly men, women, children, and infants using automatic weapons, grenades and bayonets. Infants and children were killed with bayonets, and females were raped and shot.

The official American estimate of those murdered was 347, but a Vietnamese memorial at the site lists 504 names, with ages ranging from 1 to 82. In the My Lai museum in Vietnam, a marble plaque lists the names and ages of the victims. 504 people from 247 families were killed. Of these, 24 families lost everyone – three generations, no survivors. Included in the 504 were 60 elderly men, and 282 women (17 of whom were pregnant). A total of 173 children were killed; 53 were infants.
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Private First Class Paul David Meadlo, having been granted immunity was ordered by Judge Reid W. Kennedy to testify or face contempt of court charges. Meadlo thus took the stand and recounted that as he stood guard over some 30 villagers whom he, along with Private Dennis Conti, had gathered at a defoliated area at the hamlet's southern tip, he was approached by Calley and told, regarding the civilians, "You know what to do with 'em." Meadlo took that as orders to only keep watch over them. Calley, however, returned 10 minutes later and became enraged by the fact that the villagers were still alive. After telling Meadlo that he had wanted them dead, Calley backed up about 20 feet, opened fire on them himself and ordered Meadlo to join in, which he did. Meadlo then proceeded to round up more villagers to be massacred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley

This sounds like something the Israelis would do.

When all this Venezuela boat murders go to courts-martial there will be no interference from a friendly president or SecDef to reduce the sentence.

[Anonymous]

This kill order has been leaking out for months. This is why the democrats released the do not follow illegal orders video. All the evidence is out.

Lot more stuff to come out with other incidents. Brace yourselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This kill order has been leaking out for months. This is why the democrats released the do not follow illegal orders video. All the evidence is out.

Lot more stuff to come out with other incidents. Brace yourselves.

please elaborate