Is APS really looking to close a N. Arlington elem school again?

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Anonymous wrote:Most MPSA students come from south Arlington. There is a need for seats in SA, the question is how many people would stick with it if moved across the county and would neighborhood schools have the space to handle those who didn’t?

The MPSA parents are like a cult. They will stick with it wherever it is located.

Samuel, but the North Arlington to South Arlington extended day pick up or 30 minute bus ride is a deterrent for a lot of people.

It doesn’t deter all the South Arlington parents who choose ATS.

30 minute bus rides are common for option school kids, IME.

Kids are bused from North Highlands to Taylor past TWO elementary schools - almost 3 miles in a county 5 miles across.

30 minutes for options kids is nothing.

great then we can close Taylor and they can go to the closer schools.

Keep trying, it's going to be Nottingham unless you can scrounge up some more kids. Once the current 4th and 5th graders move on the numbers are really low.

K - 43
1 - 47
2 - 53
3 - 57
4 - 70
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sure but it won't be low once we get all those taylor kids in there!

Why do you have such a vendetta against that school? Did it hurt you?

Also I had no idea Nottingham had such few students!!!

That has to be IG.

PP here, I have no idea who IG is and I have nothing against Taylor itself. I do know the building is non functional though so it doesnt make sense to keep it open when it is very poorly designed and would require major renos to make it functional. I get you want to keep your kids' school open but it's not about you.

Taylor was last renovated 20 years ago, and has AC, so it’s not a compete “hopeless” vestige of the 1950s or 60s. But it is due for a remodel. (People forget that many Arlington schools didn’t even have AC that long ago.)

APS has said they are not mothballing any school sites like they did in the 1980s. So even if Taylor closes and the school becomes a holding facility, which you may support, the building would still need upgrades.

Well if that's true, they didn't change the open classrooms at Taylor because I've seen it since and they are still there and they are a big problem

As I recall, some Taylor families were still supportive of the open concept at the time. Long Branch, which was renovated around the same time as Taylor, got rid of the open concept, which the PTA and neighborhood demanded.

It's terrible from an instructional standpoint, I don't care if some families "were supportive"

That crowd of parents is league of their own obnoxious and coercive. They get what they want, the end. Examples over and over.

People ignore the behavior when it doesn’t affect them but we should all call it out when we see it as a start and it might help.

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Close Drew

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No schools in the south have capacity

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No schools in the south have capacity

doesn't matter, it's high time for a complete county wide boundary change

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Anonymous wrote:Close Drew

No schools in the south have capacity

doesn't matter, it's high time for a complete county wide boundary change

That’s not going to happen. As long as no schools desperately over capacity, no rocking the boat. I mean with what planning department?

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No schools in the south have capacity

doesn't matter, it's high time for a complete county wide boundary change

That’s not going to happen. As long as no schools desperately over capacity, no rocking the boat. I mean with what planning department?

DP. APS would have to hire outside consultants, like the ones from Florida doing the countywide FCPS boundaries this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Close Drew

No schools in the south have capacity

doesn't matter, it's high time for a complete county wide boundary change

That’s not going to happen. As long as no schools desperately over capacity, no rocking the boat. I mean with what planning department?

DP. APS would have to hire outside consultants, like the ones from Florida doing the countywide FCPS boundaries this year.

They won’t waste the money because they know whatever major change they propose will be protested to oblivion

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Anonymous wrote:Close Drew

No schools in the south have capacity

doesn't matter, it's high time for a complete county wide boundary change

That’s not going to happen. As long as no schools desperately over capacity, no rocking the boat. I mean with what planning department?

how new are you? APS used to change boundaries before they had their planning dept.

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Anonymous wrote:Most MPSA students come from south Arlington. There is a need for seats in SA, the question is how many people would stick with it if moved across the county and would neighborhood schools have the space to handle those who didn’t?

The MPSA parents are like a cult. They will stick with it wherever it is located.

Samuel, but the North Arlington to South Arlington extended day pick up or 30 minute bus ride is a deterrent for a lot of people.

It doesn’t deter all the South Arlington parents who choose ATS.

30 minute bus rides are common for option school kids, IME.

Kids are bused from North Highlands to Taylor past TWO elementary schools - almost 3 miles in a county 5 miles across.

30 minutes for options kids is nothing.

great then we can close Taylor and they can go to the closer schools.

Keep trying, it's going to be Nottingham unless you can scrounge up some more kids. Once the current 4th and 5th graders move on the numbers are really low.

K - 43
1 - 47
2 - 53
3 - 57
4 - 70
5 - 70

sure but it won't be low once we get all those taylor kids in there!

Why do you have such a vendetta against that school? Did it hurt you?

Also I had no idea Nottingham had such few students!!!

That has to be IG.

PP here, I have no idea who IG is and I have nothing against Taylor itself. I do know the building is non functional though so it doesnt make sense to keep it open when it is very poorly designed and would require major renos to make it functional. I get you want to keep your kids' school open but it's not about you.

Taylor was last renovated 20 years ago, and has AC, so it’s not a compete “hopeless” vestige of the 1950s or 60s. But it is due for a remodel. (People forget that many Arlington schools didn’t even have AC that long ago.)

APS has said they are not mothballing any school sites like they did in the 1980s. So even if Taylor closes and the school becomes a holding facility, which you may support, the building would still need upgrades.

Well if that's true, they didn't change the open classrooms at Taylor because I've seen it since and they are still there and they are a big problem

As I recall, some Taylor families were still supportive of the open concept at the time. Long Branch, which was renovated around the same time as Taylor, got rid of the open concept, which the PTA and neighborhood demanded.

It's terrible from an instructional standpoint, I don't care if some families "were supportive"

Many Taylor zoned families uncomfortable with that opted for Science Focus. So it all
worked out when that option was available when Jamestown, Taylor, Science Focus, and Key were teamed up.

Now of course those options are gone.

well maybe it worked back when that weird option existed but no one should have this as their neighborhood school. Close Taylor.

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Anonymous wrote:Most MPSA students come from south Arlington. There is a need for seats in SA, the question is how many people would stick with it if moved across the county and would neighborhood schools have the space to handle those who didn’t?

The MPSA parents are like a cult. They will stick with it wherever it is located.

Samuel, but the North Arlington to South Arlington extended day pick up or 30 minute bus ride is a deterrent for a lot of people.

It doesn’t deter all the South Arlington parents who choose ATS.

30 minute bus rides are common for option school kids, IME.

Kids are bused from North Highlands to Taylor past TWO elementary schools - almost 3 miles in a county 5 miles across.

30 minutes for options kids is nothing.

Agreed. The Taylor families are obnoxious. Now in MS with them, every family I've met from Taylor is weirdly snotty about being from Taylor.

great then we can close Taylor and they can go to the closer schools.

Keep trying, it's going to be Nottingham unless you can scrounge up some more kids. Once the current 4th and 5th graders move on the numbers are really low.

K - 43
1 - 47
2 - 53
3 - 57
4 - 70
5 - 70

sure but it won't be low once we get all those taylor kids in there!

Why do you have such a vendetta against that school? Did it hurt you?

Also I had no idea Nottingham had such few students!!!

That has to be IG.

PP here, I have no idea who IG is and I have nothing against Taylor itself. I do know the building is non functional though so it doesnt make sense to keep it open when it is very poorly designed and would require major renos to make it functional. I get you want to keep your kids' school open but it's not about you.

Taylor was last renovated 20 years ago, and has AC, so it’s not a compete “hopeless” vestige of the 1950s or 60s. But it is due for a remodel. (People forget that many Arlington schools didn’t even have AC that long ago.)

APS has said they are not mothballing any school sites like they did in the 1980s. So even if Taylor closes and the school becomes a holding facility, which you may support, the building would still need upgrades.

Well if that's true, they didn't change the open classrooms at Taylor because I've seen it since and they are still there and they are a big problem

As I recall, some Taylor families were still supportive of the open concept at the time. Long Branch, which was renovated around the same time as Taylor, got rid of the open concept, which the PTA and neighborhood demanded.

It's terrible from an instructional standpoint, I don't care if some families "were supportive"

Many Taylor zoned families uncomfortable with that opted for Science Focus. So it all
worked out when that option was available when Jamestown, Taylor, Science Focus, and Key were teamed up.

Now of course those options are gone.

well maybe it worked back when that weird option existed but no one should have this as their neighborhood school. Close Taylor.

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Close taylor

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APS never changed school boundaries without massive outcry. I remember when some families were zoned into Key and a woman got up and yelled, “This defies the Bible.” How about when part of fairlington was supposed to be put in Drew just a few years ago and the outcry was so intense the Board put Arlington Village into Drew instead. The Arlington School would rather face anything than rezoning. They are certainly not going to rezone because one school program wants a hostile takeover of another building. Schools may be used to facilitate repairs, that’s all.

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Anonymous wrote:APS never changed school boundaries without massive outcry. I remember when some families were zoned into Key and a woman got up and yelled, “This defies the Bible.” How about when part of fairlington was supposed to be put in Drew just a few years ago and the outcry was so intense the Board put Arlington Village into Drew instead. The Arlington School would rather face anything than rezoning. They are certainly not going to rezone because one school program wants a hostile takeover of another building. Schools may be used to facilitate repairs, that’s all.

Remember the guy who accused APS of murder if his kids got zoned to Drew, because they would surely die while walking along Walter Reed Dr?

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Anonymous wrote:APS never changed school boundaries without massive outcry. I remember when some families were zoned into Key and a woman got up and yelled, “This defies the Bible.” How about when part of fairlington was supposed to be put in Drew just a few years ago and the outcry was so intense the Board put Arlington Village into Drew instead. The Arlington School would rather face anything than rezoning. They are certainly not going to rezone because one school program wants a hostile takeover of another building. Schools may be used to facilitate repairs, that’s all.

Remember the guy who accused APS of murder if his kids got zoned to Drew, because they would surely die while walking along Walter Reed Dr?

To be fair, Drew is the only APS school that has 1-2 shootings per year on or directly adjacent to school grounds.

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Anonymous wrote:APS never changed school boundaries without massive outcry. I remember when some families were zoned into Key and a woman got up and yelled, “This defies the Bible.” How about when part of fairlington was supposed to be put in Drew just a few years ago and the outcry was so intense the Board put Arlington Village into Drew instead. The Arlington School would rather face anything than rezoning. They are certainly not going to rezone because one school program wants a hostile takeover of another building. Schools may be used to facilitate repairs, that’s all.

Remember the guy who accused APS of murder if his kids got zoned to Drew, because they would surely die while walking along Walter Reed Dr?

To be fair, Drew is the only APS school that has 1-2 shootings per year on or directly adjacent to school grounds.

It was traffic related, not about shootings.