Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

Whether the book was appropriate or not for a ninth grader, I don't know (never read it). But if every book with a passage about sex is suddenly considered porn, there is a lot of porn in our public libraries! Same with movies.

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Anonymous wrote:Whether the book was appropriate or not for a ninth grader, I don't know (never read it). But if every book with a passage about sex is suddenly considered porn, there is a lot of porn in our public libraries! Same with movies.

Should not be assigned in public school. Period. End of.

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Anonymous wrote:When a worksheet says both EngageNY AND Common Core on the bottom, are we to assume that the worksheet has nothing to do with Common Core?

No, we're to assume that it is EngageNY's attempt to address the CCSS. We're not to assume that just because EngageNY attempted to address the standard in a certain way it was the correct way or the only way to do so.

So since states are completely screwing up the implementation of common core, what should happen to fix it? I would imagine everything can be blamed on the state and nothing on the standards.

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There are plenty of classic novels that can be read in high school. Although, I do remember reading A Canterbury Tale. This was over forty years ago--I was naïve and had not a clue.

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I don't get it. I thought that the whole point of schools was to be a major influence on education.

That is why it needs to be at the local level where parents can control it.

Exactly. There is recent footage of a man in NH being ARRESTED for going over the 2 minute talk rule at a school board meeting at a library. They did not want him to talk about the book his 9th grade daughter was reading, which was on the list of advanced reading for Common Core. The book was Jody Picoult's "Nineteen Minutes. Want to read the passage he was objecting to? It's detailed here, along with the story and video: http://eagnews.org/new-hampshire-father-opposes-required-reading-of-pornographic-novel-in-9th-grade-english/

If you watch, you can see the policeman seemed hesitant and reluctant. He apparently told the man "He didn't want to do this".

It is INSANE a man can be ARRESTED at a meeting like this. Why does a school board need an officer there? Why are they feeling that parents will revolt against them?

If a school board in New Hampshire had a man arrested for talking too long about a book the school system decided to include in the curriculum, then obviously that must be the fault of the Common Core standards (plus also Arne Duncan and Pearson. Follow the money.)

As long as teachers aren't arrested, right? Arrested for speaking out about porn in books to 9th graders. Is that ok with you? You won't answer this with anything but snark , because you know I am correct. Whenever you snark, I know you are trapped. You know the school board was wrong to do this. Ipunless you want those pesky parents out of the way because you know what is best

My wish is for your pension to be unavailable to you when you retire, because there is no money for it in the budget. What, you have a contract? Doesn't matter. Who are you going to sue in the end?

What the what? Do you realize that you sound deranged?

This individual constantly mocks others for their views, and doesn't seem to understand how absolutely dangerous it is for a parent to be taken away in handcuffs at the behest of a school board. She needs a lesson in what government control looks like. She's expecting a pension from the state, but seems to not understand that (a) it's not a guarantee and (b) she has NO recourse if it's taken away. If the state goes bankrupt, it goes bankrupt.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.
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Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

Yes. That is the real story. As I said, Common Core allows for this kind of interpretation. By design

So do you want that local control or not? You can't have it both ways hon.

Well, apparently local control over curriculum is fine, except if that control is by a guy with a Muslim name.

What fail to understand is that local control stopped this in its tracks. If this was approved federally, there would be nothing you could do, and trying would take years. On a state level, that time limit drops, but not by much.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.
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Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

Yes. That is the real story. As I said, Common Core allows for this kind of interpretation. By design

So do you want that local control or not? You can't have it both ways hon.

Local control is fine because abuses can be handled swiftly. Common Core is providing the excuse to hide behind, amongst other things.

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I don't get it. I thought that the whole point of schools was to be a major influence on education.

That is why it needs to be at the local level where parents can control it.

Exactly. There is recent footage of a man in NH being ARRESTED for going over the 2 minute talk rule at a school board meeting at a library. They did not want him to talk about the book his 9th grade daughter was reading, which was on the list of advanced reading for Common Core. The book was Jody Picoult's "Nineteen Minutes. Want to read the passage he was objecting to? It's detailed here, along with the story and video: http://eagnews.org/new-hampshire-father-opposes-required-reading-of-pornographic-novel-in-9th-grade-english/

If you watch, you can see the policeman seemed hesitant and reluctant. He apparently told the man "He didn't want to do this".

It is INSANE a man can be ARRESTED at a meeting like this. Why does a school board need an officer there? Why are they feeling that parents will revolt against them?

If a school board in New Hampshire had a man arrested for talking too long about a book the school system decided to include in the curriculum, then obviously that must be the fault of the Common Core standards (plus also Arne Duncan and Pearson. Follow the money.)

As long as teachers aren't arrested, right? Arrested for speaking out about porn in books to 9th graders. Is that ok with you? You won't answer this with anything but snark , because you know I am correct. Whenever you snark, I know you are trapped. You know the school board was wrong to do this. Ipunless you want those pesky parents out of the way because you know what is best

My wish is for your pension to be unavailable to you when you retire, because there is no money for it in the budget. What, you have a contract? Doesn't matter. Who are you going to sue in the end?

You do sound deranged. And did you even read the article? The book has been part of the curriculum since 2007, way before common core. So....

You understand the problem here is the local school board having a man arrested for voicing his opinion? This is what happens when larger government gets control of the school system - those locals that are inclined to push an agenda, use the feds to hide behind.

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I still fail to see how this book and arrest are even remotely related to Common Core.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.
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Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

Yes. That is the real story. As I said, Common Core allows for this kind of interpretation. By design

So do you want that local control or not? You can't have it both ways hon.

Well, apparently local control over curriculum is fine, except if that control is by a guy with a Muslim name.

And yet you were blaming Common Core standards for not providing a specific topic.
What fail to understand is that local control stopped this in its tracks. If this was approved federally, there would be nothing you could do, and trying would take years. On a state level, that time limit drops, but not by much.

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What fail to understand is that local control stopped this in its tracks. If this was approved federally, there would be nothing you could do, and trying would take years. On a state level, that time limit drops, but not by much.

Precisely. The same for the school board that arrested the man. The local community will NOT be happy.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.
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Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

Yes. That is the real story. As I said, Common Core allows for this kind of interpretation. By design

So do you want that local control or not? You can't have it both ways hon.

Well, apparently local control over curriculum is fine, except if that control is by a guy with a Muslim name.

What fail to understand is that local control stopped this in its tracks. If this was approved federally, there would be nothing you could do, and trying would take years. On a state level, that time limit drops, but not by much.

What fail to understand is that local control STARTED this problem, too. Which is how it is supposed to work. What fail to understand is local control IS over curriculum.

Local school control over curriculum. Local school chooses books, topics, etc.

Common Core State Standards are simply for the standards (Write argumentative essay, good grammar and punctuation, support with references to text, etc.)

Now, if you are upset that local control is allowing bad books to be selected as the curriculum, you sound like you have no faith in local control over schools. If so, there's a big problem, because local control is also what you are arguing FOR. How can you argue both for and against local control?

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Anonymous wrote:I still fail to see how this book and arrest are even remotely related to Common Core.

They both involve schools, thus, follow the money?

The book was chosen by local control, thus, local control intervened quickly, therefore ... Pearson?

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Now, if you are upset that local control is allowing bad books to be selected as the curriculum, you sound like you have no faith in local control over schools. If so, there's a big problem, because local control is also what you are arguing FOR. How can you argue both for and against local control?

And, you think I have faith that Big Brother will choose the right curriculum for my child? Wow. The locals shut it down. Pay attention.

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This individual constantly mocks others for their views, and doesn't seem to understand how absolutely dangerous it is for a parent to be taken away in handcuffs at the behest of a school board. She needs a lesson in what government control looks like. She's expecting a pension from the state, but seems to not understand that (a) it's not a guarantee and (b) she has NO recourse if it's taken away. If the state goes bankrupt, it goes bankrupt.

It's amazing how much you know about anonymous posters on an Internet message board.