Why are people so upset about Common Core?

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Anonymous wrote:When a worksheet says both EngageNY AND Common Core on the bottom, are we to assume that the worksheet has nothing to do with Common Core?

No, we're to assume that it is EngageNY's attempt to address the CCSS. We're not to assume that just because EngageNY attempted to address the standard in a certain way it was the correct way or the only way to do so.

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If you're teaching kids who come from a background of chaos and try and escape it through truancy, then their test scores from last year will likely reflect this struggle, and their growth scores will compare them to other kids who also struggle. On the other hand, if high performing kids come to your school and suddenly stop showing up in droves, then you're doing something wrong and you need to be held accountable.

No need for snark. It was a simple question. I am referring to the type of child that we read so many sad stories about in WAPO, She had missed thirty days.

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cont. I taught a child who couldn't come because he had no shoes. Fortunately, I reported right away and pushed for a solution. Social worker took him to buy shoes and he came back. Some kids are sick a lot, too.

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cont. I also taught kids who frequently had to stay home for impetigo or worms. People in the 'burbs don't always know about these issues.

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If you're teaching kids who come from a background of chaos and try and escape it through truancy, then their test scores from last year will likely reflect this struggle, and their growth scores will compare them to other kids who also struggle. On the other hand, if high performing kids come to your school and suddenly stop showing up in droves, then you're doing something wrong and you need to be held accountable.

No need for snark. It was a simple question. I am referring to the type of child that we read so many sad stories about in WAPO, She had missed thirty days.

I don't consider my answer to be snarky. I'm just explaining the facts as I see them.

My guess is that Relisha missed many days every year, and that it impacted her scores. So, while her absences had lots of awful impacts, they probably wouldn't have played a negative role in her teacher's performance evaluation.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.

Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

That is also the fault of the Common Core. Follow the money.

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How about the kind of kids that I taught? The ones who had to miss a week here and there for legitimate reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:cont. I also taught kids who frequently had to stay home for impetigo or worms. People in the 'burbs don't always know about these issues.

Yep, these things are all things that can happen and that can slow kids learning down. But again, the facts that put a kid at risk for them, such as lack of medical care, or overcrowded living circumstances, tend to exist within a population year to year. Many of the kids who miss a lot this year will have had similar absences last year and the year before, and their value added score will be created by comparing what they were able to learn in your class with lots of absences to what they learned last year with lots of absences. Obviously you'll have a few kids whose scores change dramatically one year. The kid who had a lot of asthma last year but got the meds right this year, and the kid who missed way more school this year than last year because mom got a new job and the hours don't match up with school. The scoring systems are looking at progress over the class as a whole, and one or two kids one way or the other shouldn't have a major impact.

To be clear, I teach in this environment, and I know how devastating these things can be for kids. I'm not downplaying the situation, just trying to explain how it has less impact on teacher evaluation than someone might think.

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To be clear, I teach in this environment, and I know how devastating these things can be for kids. I'm not downplaying the situation, just trying to explain how it has less impact on teacher evaluation than someone might think.

wishful thinking

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Anonymous wrote:cont. I also taught kids who frequently had to stay home for impetigo or worms. People in the 'burbs don't always know about these issues.

Yep, these things are all things that can happen and that can slow kids learning down. But again, the facts that put a kid at risk for them, such as lack of medical care, or overcrowded living circumstances, tend to exist within a population year to year. Many of the kids who miss a lot this year will have had similar absences last year and the year before, and their value added score will be created by comparing what they were able to learn in your class with lots of absences to what they learned last year with lots of absences. Obviously you'll have a few kids whose scores change dramatically one year. The kid who had a lot of asthma last year but got the meds right this year, and the kid who missed way more school this year than last year because mom got a new job and the hours don't match up with school. The scoring systems are looking at progress over the class as a whole, and one or two kids one way or the other shouldn't have a major impact.

To be clear, I teach in this environment, and I know how devastating these things can be for kids. I'm not downplaying the situation, just trying to explain how it has less impact on teacher evaluation than someone might think.

Thank you for your enlightening explanations, PP.

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To be clear, I teach in this environment, and I know how devastating these things can be for kids. I'm not downplaying the situation, just trying to explain how it has less impact on teacher evaluation than someone might think

I suspect you do not teach a group for whom test scores affect your performance rating.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.
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Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

Yes. That is the real story. As I said, Common Core allows for this kind of interpretation. By design

So do you want that local control or not? You can't have it both ways hon.

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You should not be teaching if you feel this is a good assignment in any way, shape or form. You would not DARE to write an assignment asking if slavery was a hoax.
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Did anyone else notice that the acting superintendent of that county had a Muslim name?

Yes. That is the real story. As I said, Common Core allows for this kind of interpretation. By design

So do you want that local control or not? You can't have it both ways hon.

Well, apparently local control over curriculum is fine, except if that control is by a guy with a Muslim name.

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I don't get it. I thought that the whole point of schools was to be a major influence on education.

That is why it needs to be at the local level where parents can control it.

Exactly. There is recent footage of a man in NH being ARRESTED for going over the 2 minute talk rule at a school board meeting at a library. They did not want him to talk about the book his 9th grade daughter was reading, which was on the list of advanced reading for Common Core. The book was Jody Picoult's "Nineteen Minutes. Want to read the passage he was objecting to? It's detailed here, along with the story and video: http://eagnews.org/new-hampshire-father-opposes-required-reading-of-pornographic-novel-in-9th-grade-english/

If you watch, you can see the policeman seemed hesitant and reluctant. He apparently told the man "He didn't want to do this".

It is INSANE a man can be ARRESTED at a meeting like this. Why does a school board need an officer there? Why are they feeling that parents will revolt against them?

If a school board in New Hampshire had a man arrested for talking too long about a book the school system decided to include in the curriculum, then obviously that must be the fault of the Common Core standards (plus also Arne Duncan and Pearson. Follow the money.)

As long as teachers aren't arrested, right? Arrested for speaking out about porn in books to 9th graders. Is that ok with you? You won't answer this with anything but snark , because you know I am correct. Whenever you snark, I know you are trapped. You know the school board was wrong to do this. Ipunless you want those pesky parents out of the way because you know what is best

My wish is for your pension to be unavailable to you when you retire, because there is no money for it in the budget. What, you have a contract? Doesn't matter. Who are you going to sue in the end?

What the what? Do you realize that you sound deranged?

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I don't get it. I thought that the whole point of schools was to be a major influence on education.

That is why it needs to be at the local level where parents can control it.

Exactly. There is recent footage of a man in NH being ARRESTED for going over the 2 minute talk rule at a school board meeting at a library. They did not want him to talk about the book his 9th grade daughter was reading, which was on the list of advanced reading for Common Core. The book was Jody Picoult's "Nineteen Minutes. Want to read the passage he was objecting to? It's detailed here, along with the story and video: http://eagnews.org/new-hampshire-father-opposes-required-reading-of-pornographic-novel-in-9th-grade-english/

If you watch, you can see the policeman seemed hesitant and reluctant. He apparently told the man "He didn't want to do this".

It is INSANE a man can be ARRESTED at a meeting like this. Why does a school board need an officer there? Why are they feeling that parents will revolt against them?

If a school board in New Hampshire had a man arrested for talking too long about a book the school system decided to include in the curriculum, then obviously that must be the fault of the Common Core standards (plus also Arne Duncan and Pearson. Follow the money.)

As long as teachers aren't arrested, right? Arrested for speaking out about porn in books to 9th graders. Is that ok with you? You won't answer this with anything but snark , because you know I am correct. Whenever you snark, I know you are trapped. You know the school board was wrong to do this. Ipunless you want those pesky parents out of the way because you know what is best

My wish is for your pension to be unavailable to you when you retire, because there is no money for it in the budget. What, you have a contract? Doesn't matter. Who are you going to sue in the end?

You do sound deranged. And did you even read the article? The book has been part of the curriculum since 2007, way before common core. So....