Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Governor Greg Abbott announced Saturday that he has directed the Texas Division of Emergency Management (TDEM) and the Texas A&M Forest Service to deploy firefighters, emergency management and medical personnel, and equipment to assist with wildfire response efforts in California.
“Our hearts grieve with the entire Los Angeles community as they continue to respond to these destructive wildfires,” Governor Abbott said. “Texans know all too well the devastation wildfires can cause to our communities, and our country is stronger when we come together in times of crisis."

I disagree with his politics, but he is doing the right thing for CA.

Those people will just loot and beat up the residents of California. Texas hates California.

What people? Fire fighters? They look at themselves as a brotherhood. They will help each other and always do. They regularly help other departments. This one is big enough that it needs people from further away. Fire fighters from Mexico are in CA and helping too. It transcends politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

Because CA doesn't learn. Vote in better people who will do the job of law enforcement and yes fire preventative measures.

How would increased law enforcement have stopped the fires? And do you really think attacking people while they are homeless and down and out is going to win you political points?

[Anonymous]

If you’re talking about presidential politics, CA will absolutely not go red. If you’re talking about the governorship, it will only go red if someone like Rick Caruso runs. He is well respected and moderate. In terms of our Legislature it is solid solid Blue.

This fire changes very little because most of the political noise is from outside the state.

We have devastating fires all the time in California. Almost every year! And we’re still a blue state. Because we believe in climate change, gun control, assistance for the poor, separation of church & state, and the women’s right to choose. We also believe in competence of Government, and we do not believe that is a characteristic of the current Republican Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“I’ve seen a lot of calls for people to leave / not rebuild in fire prone areas. I’ve wondered what all these people will do for housing.”

Move elsewhere like people have always done when circumstances change. The idea that people can and should just stay in one place forever is the most Un American thing.

The United States is plagued by severe and frequent natural disasters. Name states that are safe from it all; from Earthquakes, Fires, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, and Flooding!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re talking about presidential politics, CA will absolutely not go red. If you’re talking about the governorship, it will only go red if someone like Rick Caruso runs. He is well respected and moderate. In terms of our Legislature it is solid solid Blue.

This fire changes very little because most of the political noise is from outside the state.

We have devastating fires all the time in California. Almost every year! And we’re still a blue state. Because we believe in climate change, gun control, assistance for the poor, separation of church & state, and the women’s right to choose. We also believe in competence of Government, and we do not believe that is a characteristic of the current Republican Party.

lol no way a republican can win in California. Could you imagine the incompetence of Trump, DeSantis, Abbott or some random Fox News talking head as Governor of California during this crisis. All of Los Angeles would have burned. They would have stood up there denied there was a fire while making low ball offers for property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re talking about presidential politics, CA will absolutely not go red. If you’re talking about the governorship, it will only go red if someone like Rick Caruso runs. He is well respected and moderate. In terms of our Legislature it is solid solid Blue.

This fire changes very little because most of the political noise is from outside the state.

We have devastating fires all the time in California. Almost every year! And we’re still a blue state. Because we believe in climate change, gun control, assistance for the poor, separation of church & state, and the women’s right to choose. We also believe in competence of Government, and we do not believe that is a characteristic of the current Republican Party.

Agree with this. Lived in both CA, and TX. TX would go blue before CA would go Red. But governors and local politics may vary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

This is misplaced anger. The people will be furious when they discover how little (or no) insurance money they are getting and how long the rebuilding will take. It's a temporary reaction that will soon fade to more practical concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Governor Greg Abbott announced Saturday that he has directed the Texas Division of Emergency Management (TDEM) and the Texas A&M Forest Service to deploy firefighters, emergency management and medical personnel, and equipment to assist with wildfire response efforts in California.
“Our hearts grieve with the entire Los Angeles community as they continue to respond to these destructive wildfires,” Governor Abbott said. “Texans know all too well the devastation wildfires can cause to our communities, and our country is stronger when we come together in times of crisis."

I disagree with his politics, but he is doing the right thing for CA.

Those people will just loot and beat up the residents of California. Texas hates California.

What people? Fire fighters? They look at themselves as a brotherhood. They will help each other and always do. They regularly help other departments. This one is big enough that it needs people from further away. Fire fighters from Mexico are in CA and helping too. It transcends politics.

+1

Firefighters aren't going to beat anyone up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re talking about presidential politics, CA will absolutely not go red. If you’re talking about the governorship, it will only go red if someone like Rick Caruso runs. He is well respected and moderate. In terms of our Legislature it is solid solid Blue.

This fire changes very little because most of the political noise is from outside the state.

We have devastating fires all the time in California. Almost every year! And we’re still a blue state. Because we believe in climate change, gun control, assistance for the poor, separation of church & state, and the women’s right to choose. We also believe in competence of Government, and we do not believe that is a characteristic of the current Republican Party.

lol no way a republican can win in California. Could you imagine the incompetence of Trump, DeSantis, Abbott or some random Fox News talking head as Governor of California during this crisis. All of Los Angeles would have burned. They would have stood up there denied there was a fire while making low ball offers for property.

chef's kiss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re talking about presidential politics, CA will absolutely not go red. If you’re talking about the governorship, it will only go red if someone like Rick Caruso runs. He is well respected and moderate. In terms of our Legislature it is solid solid Blue.

This fire changes very little because most of the political noise is from outside the state.

We have devastating fires all the time in California. Almost every year! And we’re still a blue state. Because we believe in climate change, gun control, assistance for the poor, separation of church & state, and the women’s right to choose. We also believe in competence of Government, and we do not believe that is a characteristic of the current Republican Party.

I dunno...he has been pushing misinformation on FoxNews...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re talking about presidential politics, CA will absolutely not go red. If you’re talking about the governorship, it will only go red if someone like Rick Caruso runs. He is well respected and moderate. In terms of our Legislature it is solid solid Blue.

This fire changes very little because most of the political noise is from outside the state.

We have devastating fires all the time in California. Almost every year! And we’re still a blue state. Because we believe in climate change, gun control, assistance for the poor, separation of church & state, and the women’s right to choose. We also believe in competence of Government, and we do not believe that is a characteristic of the current Republican Party.

I dunno...he has been pushing misinformation on FoxNews...

He speaks the truth. It's hard to hear, I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.