ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

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You won't have less RAE

You'll just now have RAE impact in more months when Dec, Nov, Oct BY is joined by the new Q4 July, June, May SY

That’s true you would only have less RAE if Jan to July kids play BY and Aug to Dec play school year. Obviously there will still be an element of RAE but it will be less.

It won’t be less, it will just shift the window…

This is referring to having the choice to play in a different league with different age cutoffs. People would gravitate to the league that has a more favorable age cut off for them. Essentially making 6 month band leagues where the population mass supports it. Of all the scenarios being hypothesized at nauseum this seems the most unrealistic.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

It won't be two separate leagues.

It will be everyone BY and ECNL alone SY

If that is the case, ECNL will attract many new players. They will have RL3 and RL4 leagues.

They will attract the weaker player 3, 4

Real ballers with ambition will be focused on their game. Not musical cutoff dates.

I hope it works out for those little ballers. But maybe the millions of kids who aren't going to go pro shouldn't have to go through the same system as them as if they are going to go pro.

Right? Because that’s what Europe does!

And also, FRFR, there aren’t options for kids that aren’t trying to be the best ballers they can be…so ECNL is the platform for everyone, right?

ECNL could be the platform for everyone (obviously at multiple tiers). ECNL is not designed to be a pro pathway. MLSNext is the only league designed as a pro pathway. Sure, some ECNL girls go pro, but I'm consistently told there is not demand for a girls league that is designed as a pro pathway. Once there was demand, the women's pro leagues can start it and everyone will be happy.

You are also forgetting that mls next is path to usmnt and most D1 College when compared to ECNL.

ECNL can forget about it when it has the edge to gobble up 90% of the youth soccer market.

😂 ECNL is like 3% of US youth soccer…. It is not going to gobble up 90% of youth soccer.

If ECNL makes is the only league to change, which it won’t be, this is an All or Nothing changed per US Soccer, they will ECNL will implode due to dilution.

This has happened before, and ECNL came out of it. You don’t links existing ECNL top clubs would leave for a different league if ECNL turned into “Middling Clubs National League”? There is a track record of this already.

7500 ECNL kids out of 2,500,000 = 0.3% not 3%

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

It won't be two separate leagues.

It will be everyone BY and ECNL alone SY

If that is the case, ECNL will attract many new players. They will have RL3 and RL4 leagues.

They will attract the weaker player 3, 4

Real ballers with ambition will be focused on their game. Not musical cutoff dates.

I hope it works out for those little ballers. But maybe the millions of kids who aren't going to go pro shouldn't have to go through the same system as them as if they are going to go pro.

Right? Because that’s what Europe does!

And also, FRFR, there aren’t options for kids that aren’t trying to be the best ballers they can be…so ECNL is the platform for everyone, right?

ECNL could be the platform for everyone (obviously at multiple tiers). ECNL is not designed to be a pro pathway. MLSNext is the only league designed as a pro pathway. Sure, some ECNL girls go pro, but I'm consistently told there is not demand for a girls league that is designed as a pro pathway. Once there was demand, the women's pro leagues can start it and everyone will be happy.

You are also forgetting that mls next is path to usmnt and most D1 College when compared to ECNL.

ECNL can forget about it when it has the edge to gobble up 90% of the youth soccer market.

😂 ECNL is like 3% of US youth soccer…. It is not going to gobble up 90% of youth soccer.

If ECNL makes is the only league to change, which it won’t be, this is an All or Nothing changed per US Soccer, they will ECNL will implode due to dilution.

This has happened before, and ECNL came out of it. You don’t links existing ECNL top clubs would leave for a different league if ECNL turned into “Middling Clubs National League”? There is a track record of this already.

7500 ECNL kids out of 2,500,000 = 0.3% not 3%

US Club has a big chunk of that. USYS would be another large chunk as well. ECNL president said they don’t need everyone just the majority.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

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You won't have less RAE

You'll just now have RAE impact in more months when Dec, Nov, Oct BY is joined by the new Q4 July, June, May SY

No, birth month distributions wouldn't be random, people would self select away from the disadvantagist situation. Choice has value.

Well why didn’t angry trapped parents just self select away from the Q3/Q4 months then?

Blink, aka the Trapped Parent Bible, was published in 2005….they should have known better. After all…”Choice has value.”

You have to be more clear to make a point.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

It won't be two separate leagues.

It will be everyone BY and ECNL alone SY

If that is the case, ECNL will attract many new players. They will have RL3 and RL4 leagues.

They will attract the weaker player 3, 4

Real ballers with ambition will be focused on their game. Not musical cutoff dates.

I hope it works out for those little ballers. But maybe the millions of kids who aren't going to go pro shouldn't have to go through the same system as them as if they are going to go pro.

Right? Because that’s what Europe does!

And also, FRFR, there aren’t options for kids that aren’t trying to be the best ballers they can be…so ECNL is the platform for everyone, right?

ECNL could be the platform for everyone (obviously at multiple tiers). ECNL is not designed to be a pro pathway. MLSNext is the only league designed as a pro pathway. Sure, some ECNL girls go pro, but I'm consistently told there is not demand for a girls league that is designed as a pro pathway. Once there was demand, the women's pro leagues can start it and everyone will be happy.

You are also forgetting that mls next is path to usmnt and most D1 College when compared to ECNL.

ECNL can forget about it when it has the edge to gobble up 90% of the youth soccer market.

😂 ECNL is like 3% of US youth soccer…. It is not going to gobble up 90% of youth soccer.

If ECNL makes is the only league to change, which it won’t be, this is an All or Nothing changed per US Soccer, they will ECNL will implode due to dilution.

This has happened before, and ECNL came out of it. You don’t links existing ECNL top clubs would leave for a different league if ECNL turned into “Middling Clubs National League”? There is a track record of this already.

7500 ECNL kids out of 2,500,000 = 0.3% not 3%

Does that number include ECRL and pre-ECNL. That is all under "ECNL"

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Anonymous wrote:Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

We will find out after the us club meeting in a few weeks. We will know after that meeting what the plan is.

Bet ECNL is making deals to make this happen

It’s in the hands of US club/ ecnl is not involved. However CL the ECNL president is also the vice president of strategic vision for us club so technically ECNL is involved. But he’s wearing his Us club hat not ECNL.

Wait till you find out that ECNL is US CLUB

That's a slippery slope to dive down, but it's true.

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Some ODP region teams have 2 teams per age group an older and younger. Could it be that they are preparing for the change or has ODP always operated this way?

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What is the exact date of the US Club Soccer meeting where decisions will be made? What is the exact date of the USYS meeting where decisions will be made?

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Anonymous wrote:Some ODP region teams have 2 teams per age group an older and younger. Could it be that they are preparing for the change or has ODP always operated this way?

ODP always this way for the youngest age group only

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Insider here. Relax, your kids will still play but know that the change is coming.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the exact date of the US Club Soccer meeting where decisions will be made? What is the exact date of the USYS meeting where decisions will be made?

There is no date when a decision will be made. Could be today. May not be well into 2025. May never happen. This is a concept not a plan. It will take six months to put a plan together after they think they have the votes. So the decision will not decide when it happens.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the exact date of the US Club Soccer meeting where decisions will be made? What is the exact date of the USYS meeting where decisions will be made?

There is no date when a decision will be made. Could be today. May not be well into 2025. May never happen. This is a concept not a plan. It will take six months to put a plan together after they think they have the votes. So the decision will not decide when it happens.

Did you listen to the latest podcast from ECNL? They need to make the decision this month. It will happen and is not a concept.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the exact date of the US Club Soccer meeting where decisions will be made? What is the exact date of the USYS meeting where decisions will be made?

11/22

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Anonymous wrote:Insider here. Relax, your kids will still play but know that the change is coming.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the exact date of the US Club Soccer meeting where decisions will be made? What is the exact date of the USYS meeting where decisions will be made?

There is no date when a decision will be made. Could be today. May not be well into 2025. May never happen. This is a concept not a plan. It will take six months to put a plan together after they think they have the votes. So the decision will not decide when it happens.

Did you listen to the latest podcast from ECNL? They need to make the decision this month. It will happen and is not a concept.

That’s not what they said.