ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

It won't be two separate leagues.

It will be everyone BY and ECNL alone SY

If that is the case, ECNL will attract many new players. They will have RL3 and RL4 leagues.

They will attract the weaker player 3, 4

Real ballers with ambition will be focused on their game. Not musical cutoff dates.

I hope it works out for those little ballers. But maybe the millions of kids who aren't going to go pro shouldn't have to go through the same system as them as if they are going to go pro.

Right? Because that’s what Europe does!

And also, FRFR, there aren’t options for kids that aren’t trying to be the best ballers they can be…so ECNL is the platform for everyone, right?

ECNL could be the platform for everyone (obviously at multiple tiers). ECNL is not designed to be a pro pathway. MLSNext is the only league designed as a pro pathway. Sure, some ECNL girls go pro, but I'm consistently told there is not demand for a girls league that is designed as a pro pathway. Once there was demand, the women's pro leagues can start it and everyone will be happy.

You are also forgetting that mls next is path to usmnt and most D1 College when compared to ECNL.

ECNL can forget about it when it has the edge to gobble up 90% of the youth soccer market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

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You won't have less RAE

You'll just now have RAE impact in more months when Dec, Nov, Oct BY is joined by the new Q4 July, June, May SY

That’s true you would only have less RAE if Jan to July kids play BY and Aug to Dec play school year. Obviously there will still be an element of RAE but it will be less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

We will find out after the us club meeting in a few weeks. We will know after that meeting what the plan is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

Will be very interesting what GA and MLS next are thinking. If ECNL/US Club soccer can get USYS to buy in which it sounds like that might happen would they then change to SY or would they stay birth year and force the clubs to have two registration systems?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

We will find out after the us club meeting in a few weeks. We will know after that meeting what the plan is.

Bet ECNL is making deals to make this happen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

We will find out after the us club meeting in a few weeks. We will know after that meeting what the plan is.

Bet ECNL is making deals to make this happen

It’s in the hands of US club/ ecnl is not involved. However CL the ECNL president is also the vice president of strategic vision for us club so technically ECNL is involved. But he’s wearing his Us club hat not ECNL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too many factors at play
Clubs with ga and ecnl? Do they then admit the girls to ecnl?
Clubs with ecnl and mls next? MLS next surely won’t agree with this mandate

We will find out after the us club meeting in a few weeks. We will know after that meeting what the plan is.

Bet ECNL is making deals to make this happen

It’s in the hands of US club/ ecnl is not involved. However CL the ECNL president is also the vice president of strategic vision for us club so technically ECNL is involved. But he’s wearing his Us club hat not ECNL.

Wait till you find out that ECNL is US CLUB

[Anonymous]

GA and MLS Next will be key in this.
If MLS gets involved this could get messy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GA and MLS Next will be key in this.
If MLS gets involved this could get messy.

Lots of powerhouse leagues who may have different ideals. What it will come down to is who can gain the most support. It sounds like ECNL will not just let people ( board members and people in positions of power) say birth year is better without giving data or real reasons in how the current system benefits kids.

Also I’m not advocating for birth year or school year I’m just saying what it sounds like to me. From listening to the little bit of information ECNL gives to us.

US club is on ECNL side so they have the majority as us club governs a lot of leagues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GA and MLS Next will be key in this.
If MLS gets involved this could get messy.

Lots of powerhouse leagues who may have different ideals. What it will come down to is who can gain the most support. It sounds like ECNL will not just let people ( board members and people in positions of power) say birth year is better without giving data or real reasons in how the current system benefits kids.

Also I’m not advocating for birth year or school year I’m just saying what it sounds like to me. From listening to the little bit of information ECNL gives to us.

US club is on ECNL side so they have the majority as us club governs a lot of leagues.

Us club is pretty much ECNL. I don’t think people are understanding. It just sounds good.

What will happen is ECNL will give non worthy USYS clubs an entry to ECNL or ECRL in exchange for their vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:GA and MLS Next will be key in this.
If MLS gets involved this could get messy.

Lots of powerhouse leagues who may have different ideals. What it will come down to is who can gain the most support. It sounds like ECNL will not just let people ( board members and people in positions of power) say birth year is better without giving data or real reasons in how the current system benefits kids.

Also I’m not advocating for birth year or school year I’m just saying what it sounds like to me. From listening to the little bit of information ECNL gives to us.

US club is on ECNL side so they have the majority as us club governs a lot of leagues.

Us club is pretty much ECNL. I don’t think people are understanding. It just sounds good.

What will happen is ECNL will give non worthy USYS clubs an entry to ECNL or ECRL in exchange for their vote.

MLS next won’t bite…..GA club directors may bite if offered entry to ECNL…

then ECNL becomes diluted..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

😆
You won't have less RAE

You'll just now have RAE impact in more months when Dec, Nov, Oct BY is joined by the new Q4 July, June, May SY

No, birth month distributions wouldn't be random, people would self select away from the disadvantagist situation. Choice has value.

Well why didn’t angry trapped parents just self select away from the Q3/Q4 months then?

Blink, aka the Trapped Parent Bible, was published in 2005….they should have known better. After all…”Choice has value.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

😆
You won't have less RAE

You'll just now have RAE impact in more months when Dec, Nov, Oct BY is joined by the new Q4 July, June, May SY

That’s true you would only have less RAE if Jan to July kids play BY and Aug to Dec play school year. Obviously there will still be an element of RAE but it will be less.

It won’t be less, it will just shift the window…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope it splits with US Club being SY and USYS being BY. People can vote with their feet and their dollars. If you are so good you value international alignment, go for it.

I’ve always liked the idea of two separate leagues especially for younger kids. Let parents and families pick best environment and have less kids affected by RAE while they all develop into the high school ages.

It won't be two separate leagues.

It will be everyone BY and ECNL alone SY

If that is the case, ECNL will attract many new players. They will have RL3 and RL4 leagues.

They will attract the weaker player 3, 4

Real ballers with ambition will be focused on their game. Not musical cutoff dates.

I hope it works out for those little ballers. But maybe the millions of kids who aren't going to go pro shouldn't have to go through the same system as them as if they are going to go pro.

Right? Because that’s what Europe does!

And also, FRFR, there aren’t options for kids that aren’t trying to be the best ballers they can be…so ECNL is the platform for everyone, right?

ECNL could be the platform for everyone (obviously at multiple tiers). ECNL is not designed to be a pro pathway. MLSNext is the only league designed as a pro pathway. Sure, some ECNL girls go pro, but I'm consistently told there is not demand for a girls league that is designed as a pro pathway. Once there was demand, the women's pro leagues can start it and everyone will be happy.

You are also forgetting that mls next is path to usmnt and most D1 College when compared to ECNL.

ECNL can forget about it when it has the edge to gobble up 90% of the youth soccer market.

😂 ECNL is like 3% of US youth soccer…. It is not going to gobble up 90% of youth soccer.

If ECNL makes is the only league to change, which it won’t be, this is an All or Nothing changed per US Soccer, they will ECNL will implode due to dilution.

This has happened before, and ECNL came out of it. You don’t links existing ECNL top clubs would leave for a different league if ECNL turned into “Middling Clubs National League”? There is a track record of this already.