Another gunman, another elementary school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:God they can not even tell us what agency shot the guy. They keep changing the federal agency -CBP or someone else.

Nobody was in charge. Shameful.

They were outside for an hour listening to gun shots and they arrested mothers trying to get to their kids.

Criminal. What cowards. The shooter was an 18 yr old chicken sh*t. If even just a few armed officers, people, bodies, rushed after him it absolutely would have stopped this. Perhaps some would have died, but the shooter would have been at least hit with bullets, become confused, panic, slowed down but
Most importantly it would have diverted him away from the kids- for at least more time.

What did you expect them to do. The classroom door was locked and nobody knew who had the key. It was hopeless.

/s

Yep. And there was also a window into the classroom with a clear line of sight. What, were they supposed to shoot the guy? Please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God they can not even tell us what agency shot the guy. They keep changing the federal agency -CBP or someone else.

Nobody was in charge. Shameful.

They were outside for an hour listening to gun shots and they arrested mothers trying to get to their kids.

Criminal. What cowards. The shooter was an 18 yr old chicken sh*t. If even just a few armed officers, people, bodies, rushed after him it absolutely would have stopped this. Perhaps some would have died, but the shooter would have been at least hit with bullets, become confused, panic, slowed down but
Most importantly it would have diverted him away from the kids- for at least more time.

What did you expect them to do. The classroom door was locked and nobody knew who had the key. It was hopeless.

/s

You run in after him, you shoot into the door, someone else breaks a window. Literally ANYTHING would have helped. You don’t make it easy and peaceful for him to walk into a school and take his damn time shooting up kids with ZERO resistance of any kind

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh, the husband of the teacher who died- had a heart attack and died today. What on earth!
https://www.tmz.com/2022/05/26/uvalde-elementary-school-shooting-teacher-husband-dead-heart-attack-dies/

So awful.

[Anonymous]

They needed to take their time to verify whether he was a white man with a mental illness or a brown skinned terrorist before shooting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Texas? State official whining about not being able to go home a hug his kids.

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1529907099076964353/pu/img/M8m156HD1aYhB17E?format=jpg&name=900x900

I just watched this. Totally ridiculous.

Link? What did he say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Texas? State official whining about not being able to go home a hug his kids.

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1529907099076964353/pu/img/M8m156HD1aYhB17E?format=jpg&name=900x900

I just watched this. Totally ridiculous.

Link? What did he say?

The DPS official talked about how hard it was on everyone and the investigators weren’t able to go home and hug their kids tonight. I’m sure it wasn’t what he meant to say, but it was terrible. It was at the start of the news conference. Right before he said the gunman was outside the school shooting at the school for 12 minutes and then walking around inside the school before he entered a classroom and 4 minutes after that LOE arrived. I turned it off at that point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God they can not even tell us what agency shot the guy. They keep changing the federal agency -CBP or someone else.

Nobody was in charge. Shameful.

They were outside for an hour listening to gun shots and they arrested mothers trying to get to their kids.

Criminal. What cowards. The shooter was an 18 yr old chicken sh*t. If even just a few armed officers, people, bodies, rushed after him it absolutely would have stopped this. Perhaps some would have died, but the shooter would have been at least hit with bullets, become confused, panic, slowed down but
Most importantly it would have diverted him away from the kids- for at least more time.

What did you expect them to do. The classroom door was locked and nobody knew who had the key. It was hopeless.

/s

So standard operating procedures- police sergeant in charge of the shift has the master key for the school, at minimum one police car per shift has breaching equipment, all cars have assault rifles, etc, etc. This is not a wish list it is written SOP. Hat ten F#xk!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Texas? State official whining about not being able to go home a hug his kids.

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1529907099076964353/pu/img/M8m156HD1aYhB17E?format=jpg&name=900x900

I just watched this. Totally ridiculous.

Link? What did he say?

The DPS official talked about how hard it was on everyone and the investigators weren’t able to go home and hug their kids tonight. I’m sure it wasn’t what he meant to say, but it was terrible. It was at the start of the news conference. Right before he said the gunman was outside the school shooting at the school for 12 minutes and then walking around inside the school before he entered a classroom and 4 minutes after that LOE arrived. I turned it off at that point.

The police station is about a miles away. Why did it take so long?

[Anonymous]

I think @tedcruz is on to something with his keen observation about locking school doors.

The only problem seems to be that police in Texas now have to sit around for an hour doing nothing while they try to figure out where to find the key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with Texas? State official whining about not being able to go home a hug his kids.

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1529907099076964353/pu/img/M8m156HD1aYhB17E?format=jpg&name=900x900

I just watched this. Totally ridiculous.

Link? What did he say?

The DPS official talked about how hard it was on everyone and the investigators weren’t able to go home and hug their kids tonight. I’m sure it wasn’t what he meant to say, but it was terrible. It was at the start of the news conference. Right before he said the gunman was outside the school shooting at the school for 12 minutes and then walking around inside the school before he entered a classroom and 4 minutes after that LOE arrived. I turned it off at that point.

The police station is about a miles away. Why did it take so long?

Line at Dunkin’ drive thru.

[Anonymous]

Strategic police training and readiness is obviously an issue.

I prefer to stay focused on the root causes. The fact that a single man armed with an AR-15 was able to inflict this level of atrocity is still the story--which was the same story in Buffalo and countless other mass casualty events.

The weapon used to kill these babies was an AR-15--a gun designed to quickly kill as many people as possible. It is the very definition of a weapon of mass destruction. At triple the speed of a handgun, these rifles literally spray bullets that are accurate over long distances, and cause devastating wounds to soft tissue and internal organs.

So, we can/should push for police training for these frequent nightmares, but until these weapons of mass destruction are pried from their "cold, dead hands", we will have more mass casualty events like these.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strategic police training and readiness is obviously an issue.

I prefer to stay focused on the root causes. The fact that a single man armed with an AR-15 was able to inflict this level of atrocity is still the story--which was the same story in Buffalo and countless other mass casualty events.

The weapon used to kill these babies was an AR-15--a gun designed to quickly kill as many people as possible. It is the very definition of a weapon of mass destruction. At triple the speed of a handgun, these rifles literally spray bullets that are accurate over long distances, and cause devastating wounds to soft tissue and internal organs.

So, we can/should push for police training for these frequent nightmares, but until these weapons of mass destruction are pried from their "cold, dead hands", we will have more mass casualty events like these.

Exactly. We do need police reform, but gun reform would have prevented this from ever happening.

And I’m so sick of the “bad guys will get them anyway!” argument. By that logic, let’s just give everyone bombs and rocket launchers, because if they *really* want to take down a building they’ll do so anyway.

No. Making it more difficult to source these weapons drastically reduces the likelihood they will be used. They won’t be able to get it, law enforcement will be tipped off beforehand, someone will blab, etc.

[Anonymous]

There are going to be law enforcement suicides in Uvalde soon. Some of them won’t be able to live with the guilt of their wholly inadequate response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are going to be law enforcement suicides in Uvalde soon. Some of them won’t be able to live with the guilt of their wholly inadequate response.

Lol yeah right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God they can not even tell us what agency shot the guy. They keep changing the federal agency -CBP or someone else.

Nobody was in charge. Shameful.

They were outside for an hour listening to gun shots and they arrested mothers trying to get to their kids.

Criminal. What cowards. The shooter was an 18 yr old chicken sh*t. If even just a few armed officers, people, bodies, rushed after him it absolutely would have stopped this. Perhaps some would have died, but the shooter would have been at least hit with bullets, become confused, panic, slowed down but
Most importantly it would have diverted him away from the kids- for at least more time.

What did you expect them to do. The classroom door was locked and nobody knew who had the key. It was hopeless.

/s

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