Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this suggested on Reddit and thought it was interesting (link to thread here, this quote is from the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1l7o47r/did_people_actually_read_all_the_legal_filings/):

"Baldoni’s entire defense was that Blake supposedly made up the sexual harassment to steal the movie. That claim’s been thrown out and can’t be brought up again. I have no idea what Baldoni’s defense is even going to be now. Why did she “lie” about being sexually harassed?"

I am not sure this is true or not and would be curious what others think. But if it is true, this would make this loss a much bigger deal that I think a lot of people currently think it is, because it could have implications for how well Justin can defend himself against the SH allegations. I'm curious if a jury will be as persuaded by just a straightforward defense (this didn't happen, she is lying or her perception is wrong) rather than this theory they've been putting forward that she was lying on purpose in order to gain control of the movie or obtain the rights to the sequel.

I’m not sure how much they can prove she was trying to get rights to the sequel. It’s not a stretch in my mind, but I have no idea if they can prove that or convince a jury.

However it seems very easy to show she was taking control of the movie via of the sexual harassment allegations. They absolutely advanced her role in the movie and it’s hard to argue otherwise. She simply would not have gotten PGA credit, which is a very powerful and sought after credential if you want to do things like direct and produce, which apparently she did. It was smart of Wayfare to write that letter and file it with their legal team to show that they did it under duress.

She also took control of the marketing of the movie which financially benefited Ryan, she blatantly sad that she wouldn’t charge the use of his marketing firm to the film and then she did. So they got paid, but also it allowed her to take control of the marketing and launch her hair products during promotions for the film as well as shill for Ryan’s gin line. Yes, inexplicably she had drinks made with his gin and her booze line even named after characters in the film during promotional events.

She also levered the fact that Ryan wrote the rooftop scene and was able to share that on the red carpet which helped them create the Barbenheimer effect they were trying to create. Tons of red carpet footage of her talking about Ryan and Deadpool. Showing that Deadpool was playing in the marquis next door etc.

It seemed like wayfarer was blindsided by the list after the strike and she used the list to leverage a lot of control over the film. I don’t know how all of it will shake out or even if it will go to trial, but it’s hard not to see that she got a lot of things when her lawyers started sending threatening letters to Wayfarer and alleging sexual harassment.

Gotta appreciate the hopefulness here I guess after a day like yesterday I guess. Not even Freedman is out there spouting this rn so good job you I guess.

I don’t understand what you are talking about. Blake lively still very much has to show sexual harassment and retaliation took place.

Her former best friends don’t believe her, Hollywood doesn’t believe her, but I’m sure she is glad some anonymous poster on DCUM is shilling for her.

I don't think you can conclude "Hollywood" doesn't believe her. She's gotten quite a bit of support. Agent hasn't dropped her, she still gets invited to stuff, she's been seen publicly with Hollywood people. I think people are wary of her because of the bad press but that's different than thinking she's lying.

No idea what to make of the Taylor falling out, would love to know what the issue was there. But I'm not convinced that Taylor thinks she's lying -- Taylor didn't seem particularly in Baldoni's side, and if she thought Blake was just making it all up, I would think she would have been more supportive of Baldoni. Instead it just seemed like she was annoyed to be brought into it at all and annoyed with both Blake and Baldoni. Which reads to me like she thinks they both suck, which is very different from thinking Blake is lying.

You are overthinking and over analyzing the Taylor thing. Of course she didn’t take Baldoni side, they were never friends. Sounds like she met him once at the apartment and she’s pissed that she got dragged into this. It would be very weird for her to support Justin. Frankly, I support Justin, but I don’t like the guy. I think he’s a bit of a fraud and super annoying, I just don’t think he sexually harassed blake.

Taylor hasn’t been seen with Blake since October. I think she caught wind of this and was fed up. It’s pretty clear that even before the dragons text she felt like she was being used. It’s now coming out that a bunch of her friends have been warning Taylor about Blake lively for years. Selena Gomez in particular was very weary and always thought Blake was using her. I think seeing some of Blake’s actions and then seeing some of her resurfaced interviews as we all did in August made her very weary. She started distancing herself way before the Kalisi text.

The New Year’s Time article dropped December 21 and Taylor was silent and not supporting her. And that’s when we were all supporting her because the article was so one-sided! I for sure thought she’d been sexually harassed. So it was particularly damning for Taylor, who stands up for women, was silent about her best friend.

I mean, even Blake’s sisterhood of the traveling pants costars, and Amy Schumer issued statements of support at that time. But Taylor, totally silent. And not even willing to be seen with Blake. Or throw any kind of indicator that they were friends when the whole Super Bowl came and went, and Blake was not there.

So I’m a little confused why you’d say “I don’t know what to make of the Taylor thing.” there’s nothing to make of . It seems pretty clear that Taylor is set up with her and cut her out of her life and is not supporting her. Having Travis publicly Unfollow Ryan was icing on the cake, and talk about breadcrumbs, it was instantly picked up and it’s been months and she’s done nothing to say oh it was a mistake. There’s nothing really to make of it. It is what it is.

Filing a federal lawsuit based on actual lies is a big deal. I personally think that if Taylor believed Blake was lying about all this (as many JB supporters do), she would have cooperated more willingly with Baldoni's legal team to help him clear his name.

What I think is more likely is that Taylor believes Baldoni did the stuff Lively is alleging and that he sucks, but also that when she saw how Lively was using Taylor's name and rep in the Khaleesi email and in the IEWU press, she felt used.

I should also note that I don't believe the stuff Freedman alleges about Blake threatening Taylor or trying to get her to delete messages. It just doesn't pass the smell test.

Try convincing Taylor fans that if she thought he was a sexual harasser she would not be doing more to help. I’m sorry, but that just does not pass muster.

You can downplay this all you want, but Taylor severing the friendship is the biggest PR blow Blake could possibly imagine and it’s going to be incredibly difficult to recover from.

Most Taylor fans I know actually think Taylor secretly supports Blake and us just laying low to avoid making it look like she's throwing her weight to bury Baldoni, since he's already alleging that was the plan.

I don't actually know any Swifties who support Baldoni.

If she secretly supports Blake, explain why Travis unfollowed Ryan. Come on, that was such a petty move. It is super easy to mute someone if you don’t want to follow their content. Swift is the queen of breadcrumbs. She knew that the press would instantly pick it up and they did. That was sending a message.

These fantasies of Taylor secretly supporting Blake are just so weird. Blake has a lot of power on her side with her money and her legal team. She just scored a big victory. Trying to twist the Taylor part is just weird and really transparent. No one is buying it.

Why would she have gotten in that dig that she didn’t even bother to see the movie for weeks? I mean that was just super unnecessary lol

And if you know anything about Swifty’s, it’s delusional to think that anyone thinks they are still friends. That is just not the prevailing thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

I still think this won’t go to trial, but it seems like an uphill battle. I mean, think of the trials of this nature that we’ve seen. Harvey Weinstein raping women left and right for years and terrorizing them and vaporizing their careers. Horrible things have happened to women. Real abuse.

I agree the set was probably uncomfortable and weird, but the problem people have is that Blake contributed to a lot of it, not meeting with the intimacy coordinator, having Justin relay notes, saying that she doesn’t want anything unscripted and then grabbing and kissing him and handling him when it works for her. There’s just a lot of hypocrisy.

We have already caught her in lies - saying that Taylor was involved in the casting and other creative decisions of this movie and we now have Taylor saying that she was not. She said she wrote the rooftop scene, only to change course and say Ryan did it. She said that they’d foot the bill for Ryan’s marketing firm, only to charge the movie for it. Regardless of what happened to her or didn’t happen to her, she has a history of lying and twisting the truth during the course of this film.

What she is alleging, just does not seem like a big deal to some people. I am sure it was annoying to have constant conversations about the birth scene, but it really shouldn’t have been that triggering for Heath to pull out a video of his wife’s home birth. Is it annoying and weird? Yes, but most of us would be able to file a complaint with HR, not run to the New York Times screaming that she was sexually harassed and she’s just doing this to protect other women. It’s been months and months and months, where are these other women? Honestly asking, since this news has broke, have any of the costars voiced their support? This is a pretty big win for Blake, it will be telling in the next couple of days if any of them come forward, or don’t.

Women have been through a lot, this is a tough time, and I just think it’s going to be hard to garner sympathy for this multimillion dollar actress who had every privilege and a ton of control on this set.

Who knows, it’s possible that she will be able to build support, and that if this does go to trial, people could come on the stand or be deposed and support her. If that happens, I’m willing to say I was wrong. But my issue with this is it’s been several months and that hasn’t happened yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

lol okay. Are you the same person who watched her off the cuff Copenhagen speech about how IEWU wasn’t just about domestic violence and how women who had experienced DV were more than the abuses perpetrated upon them and dismissed it as short and nbd despite two spontaneous audience breaks for applause?

Continue with your magical thinking because it has been serving you so well so far.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

lol okay. Are you the same person who watched her off the cuff Copenhagen speech about how IEWU wasn’t just about domestic violence and how women who had experienced DV were more than the abuses perpetrated upon them and dismissed it as short and nbd despite two spontaneous audience breaks for applause?

Continue with your magical thinking because it has been serving you so well so far.

lol, her regurgitation of the plot of the movie which you keep touting as something special? I’m glad it’s special to you, at least.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

I still think this won’t go to trial, but it seems like an uphill battle. I mean, think of the trials of this nature that we’ve seen. Harvey Weinstein raping women left and right for years and terrorizing them and vaporizing their careers. Horrible things have happened to women. Real abuse.

I agree the set was probably uncomfortable and weird, but the problem people have is that Blake contributed to a lot of it, not meeting with the intimacy coordinator, having Justin relay notes, saying that she doesn’t want anything unscripted and then grabbing and kissing him and handling him when it works for her. There’s just a lot of hypocrisy.

We have already caught her in lies - saying that Taylor was involved in the casting and other creative decisions of this movie and we now have Taylor saying that she was not. She said she wrote the rooftop scene, only to change course and say Ryan did it. She said that they’d foot the bill for Ryan’s marketing firm, only to charge the movie for it. Regardless of what happened to her or didn’t happen to her, she has a history of lying and twisting the truth during the course of this film.

What she is alleging, just does not seem like a big deal to some people. I am sure it was annoying to have constant conversations about the birth scene, but it really shouldn’t have been that triggering for Heath to pull out a video of his wife’s home birth. Is it annoying and weird? Yes, but most of us would be able to file a complaint with HR, not run to the New York Times screaming that she was sexually harassed and she’s just doing this to protect other women. It’s been months and months and months, where are these other women? Honestly asking, since this news has broke, have any of the costars voiced their support? This is a pretty big win for Blake, it will be telling in the next couple of days if any of them come forward, or don’t.

Women have been through a lot, this is a tough time, and I just think it’s going to be hard to garner sympathy for this multimillion dollar actress who had every privilege and a ton of control on this set.

Who knows, it’s possible that she will be able to build support, and that if this does go to trial, people could come on the stand or be deposed and support her. If that happens, I’m willing to say I was wrong. But my issue with this is it’s been several months and that hasn’t happened yet.

To the contrary, she gets less popular each month and it’s been six. Even yesterday, there was almost universal negative reaction to the decision, outside of her most ardent supporters. She’s going to need to have some bombshell secret evidence to have a chance of winning in the court of public opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

lol okay. Are you the same person who watched her off the cuff Copenhagen speech about how IEWU wasn’t just about domestic violence and how women who had experienced DV were more than the abuses perpetrated upon them and dismissed it as short and nbd despite two spontaneous audience breaks for applause?

Continue with your magical thinking because it has been serving you so well so far.

lol, her regurgitation of the plot of the movie which you keep touting as something special? I’m glad it’s special to you, at least.

Sometimes it’s really hard to believe the Baldoni supporters spouting this nonsense aren’t MRA activists or similar because of how backwards and insulting to women these positions are. But no, it’s just women hating on other women.

I started this thread as no fan of Lively in particular but at this point I basically believe she has a spine of steel to have gone through all of these ridiculous insults and bullying and still be ready for more. She could have asked her team to settle months ago because she’s got 4 kids and the hate campaign was just too hard. But she did not, and now Freedman has been decimated by her. Absolutely carnage for all his bullying.

Keep underestimating her and waging your weird hate campaign that is helping and benefitting no one afaict and which does not line up in any way with the other deals that Justin Baldoni seemed to espouse a year ago but which I guess don’t count anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

As always, I think you underestimate her legal team and how powerful good prep can be. But whatevs. Keep putting all your hopes and dreams in the Freedman basket.

I’m sure that she has had hours and hours of interview prep, yet she basically can’t open her mouth in public without saying something offensive.

I still think this won’t go to trial, but it seems like an uphill battle. I mean, think of the trials of this nature that we’ve seen. Harvey Weinstein raping women left and right for years and terrorizing them and vaporizing their careers. Horrible things have happened to women. Real abuse.

I agree the set was probably uncomfortable and weird, but the problem people have is that Blake contributed to a lot of it, not meeting with the intimacy coordinator, having Justin relay notes, saying that she doesn’t want anything unscripted and then grabbing and kissing him and handling him when it works for her. There’s just a lot of hypocrisy.

We have already caught her in lies - saying that Taylor was involved in the casting and other creative decisions of this movie and we now have Taylor saying that she was not. She said she wrote the rooftop scene, only to change course and say Ryan did it. She said that they’d foot the bill for Ryan’s marketing firm, only to charge the movie for it. Regardless of what happened to her or didn’t happen to her, she has a history of lying and twisting the truth during the course of this film.

What she is alleging, just does not seem like a big deal to some people. I am sure it was annoying to have constant conversations about the birth scene, but it really shouldn’t have been that triggering for Heath to pull out a video of his wife’s home birth. Is it annoying and weird? Yes, but most of us would be able to file a complaint with HR, not run to the New York Times screaming that she was sexually harassed and she’s just doing this to protect other women. It’s been months and months and months, where are these other women? Honestly asking, since this news has broke, have any of the costars voiced their support? This is a pretty big win for Blake, it will be telling in the next couple of days if any of them come forward, or don’t.

Women have been through a lot, this is a tough time, and I just think it’s going to be hard to garner sympathy for this multimillion dollar actress who had every privilege and a ton of control on this set.

Who knows, it’s possible that she will be able to build support, and that if this does go to trial, people could come on the stand or be deposed and support her. If that happens, I’m willing to say I was wrong. But my issue with this is it’s been several months and that hasn’t happened yet.

To the contrary, she gets less popular each month and it’s been six. Even yesterday, there was almost universal negative reaction to the decision, outside of her most ardent supporters. She’s going to need to have some bombshell secret evidence to have a chance of winning in the court of public opinion.

lol, I guess you weren’t hanging out on this board, where there was much rejoicing!

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman's statement ends with a declaration of intent that he will take Lively's deposition. "Most importantly, Ms. Lively’s own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday, and with the facts on our side, we march forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle and look forward to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking." lol, this guy! I think this is actually the main leverage they have remaining at this point.

He talks about filing an amended complaint but not about appeal.

He also says Lively is focused on the "untraceable" smear campaign and that Lively uses the word "untraceable" because they can't find evidence of it, but actually that was the language used by Baldoni's own PR team, so this is not really the burn he thinks it is.

That statement is alright but it shouldn't have taken a day to come up with it. It suggests they really were caught off guard and thought they would have plenty of time and an easy roadmap to rewrite all their claims.

I agree. Fwiw, this was Freedman's letter to the judge on April 15 saying he wouldn't amend the complaint, clearly not envisioning the bomb that dropped on them yesterday: "As counsel for Wayfarer Studios LLC, Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Steve Sarowitz, It Ends With Us Movie LLC, Melissa Nathan, The Agency Group PR LLC, and Jennifer Abel (collectively, the “Wayfarer Parties”), we write to notify the Court that the Wayfarer Parties do not intend to move for leave to amend their pleading by the April 18, 2025 deadline set forth in the Case Management Plan and Scheduling Order. The Wayfarer Parties stand behind the operative First Amended Complaint and are confident that, for the reasons outlined in their opposition briefs (Dkt. Nos. 121, 127, 160, 162), the currently-pending motions to dismiss will be denied. If the Court were to grant one or more of the motions to any extent, the Wayfarer Parties will move for leave to amend pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 15(a)(2) and seek a commensurate modification of the Scheduling Order under the “good cause” standard pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 16(b)(4) and consistent with the guidance set forth in Furry Puppet Studio Inc. v. Fall Out Boy."

Like his current TMZ statement, Freedman projects cheerful positive vibez at all times about his prospects even though such projections often do not comport with reality.

So it sounds like his options right now are:
-Amend the claims dismissed without prejudice by June 23 (they plan to do this)
-Move for leave to amend the claims dismissed with prejudice with "good cause" (which seems pointless because Liman is not going to allow that after he flouted previous opportunities)
-Appeal the dismissals (no indication yet they plan to do this)

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Anonymous wrote:If I were advising Baldoni, as someone who thinks Blake’s case is bs, this is what I would do:
(1) Hire an experienced appellate lawyer with familiarity with defamation to appeal the defamation dismissals. Perhaps who ever got Palin’s dismissal reversed by the Second Circuit.
(2) Hire a woman attorney with experience in front of Liman. Liman is pretty unorthodox so having some one familiar with how he thinks will help. Replead the claims dismissed with prejudice. Consider whether discovery has revealed any additional claims, and if so, ask for leave to include them in the June 23 rd complaint.
(3) keep Freedman as the pr guy

I appreciate that there is at least one Baldoni supporter who is coming out and saying that maybe it’s time to give Freedman a break on the legal side of things, at least.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Dp. I’m one who has often recommended settlement and it is so astounding to me that despite the fact I correct you EVERY SINGLE TIME this issue arises, you still revert back to the same fake twisted statement- that Baldoni supporters are insisting she settle ‘ASAP!’ for ‘400M!!’ even though ‘they haven’t even proved damages!!!’ and ‘they insist she gives a statement of contrition!!!. That has NEVER been said. Yet you repeat it again and again. Why? Are you brain damaged? Or is it just some strategy?

What I have said, and seen, on this topic is reasonable and intelligent people commenting that this litigation has been a PR nightmare for her, is likely costing millions and her claims seem extremely weak. Any decent professional would see this, and advise their client to find an exit ramp such as a confidential settlement (no one would need to know how much or how little was exchanged), some sort of word salad statement where neither side took blame and said they’ve decided to settle their differences privately and blah blah.

This happens ALL THE TIME in litigations

So can you finally get this through your head and keep it there??

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

Dp. I’m one who has often recommended settlement and it is so astounding to me that despite the fact I correct you EVERY SINGLE TIME this issue arises, you still revert back to the same fake twisted statement- that Baldoni supporters are insisting she settle ‘ASAP!’ for ‘400M!!’ even though ‘they haven’t even proved damages!!!’ and ‘they insist she gives a statement of contrition!!!. That has NEVER been said. Yet you repeat it again and again. Why? Are you brain damaged? Or is it just some strategy?

What I have said, and seen, on this topic is reasonable and intelligent people commenting that this litigation has been a PR nightmare for her, is likely costing millions and her claims seem extremely weak. Any decent professional would see this, and advise their client to find an exit ramp such as a confidential settlement (no one would need to know how much or how little was exchanged), some sort of word salad statement where neither side took blame and said they’ve decided to settle their differences privately and blah blah.

This happens ALL THE TIME in litigations

So can you finally get this through your head and keep it there??

Calm down and look again at what I wrote.

While I talked about Baldoni supporters defending his claims as actually being worth $400 million (which they have — recall the discussions about how juries award hundreds of millions in damages for the wrestler that bankrupted Gawker, for example), I talked about people here having urged Lively to settle for tens of millions, or just a portion of that.

Which they have. Go back and look.

Baldoni supporters here have also insisted that Baldoni should get some statement to clear his name because otherwise settlement wouldn’t be worth it for him, given how much his claims were worth. Sorry if you don’t believe me but they have. Go look.

I’m not only talking to you. Also, don’t talk to me that way. Calm down. I know this is a tough blow, but do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were advising Baldoni, as someone who thinks Blake’s case is bs, this is what I would do:
(1) Hire an experienced appellate lawyer with familiarity with defamation to appeal the defamation dismissals. Perhaps who ever got Palin’s dismissal reversed by the Second Circuit.
(2) Hire a woman attorney with experience in front of Liman. Liman is pretty unorthodox so having some one familiar with how he thinks will help. Replead the claims dismissed with prejudice. Consider whether discovery has revealed any additional claims, and if so, ask for leave to include them in the June 23 rd complaint.
(3) keep Freedman as the pr guy

I appreciate that there is at least one Baldoni supporter who is coming out and saying that maybe it’s time to give Freedman a break on the legal side of things, at least.

Dp. I’m the one who has posted a lot about the NYT. I think this is what should happen as I do think freedman isn’t an expert in this area and didn’t handle the underlying motion as well as he could have. A better lawyer in this area could have survived a MTD imo. I’ve also commented that there are 3rd party funders who are dying to take down the NYT and legacy media (who do you think kept paying for Palin’s crappy case?) and there are specialized lawyers I can think of off the top of my head who would probably be great at it. But Baldoni seems like the kind of guy who might not want to get in bed with those people, so we shall see.

[Anonymous]

^ oops. Was trying to post that I think Baldoni should hire an experienced defamation appellate attorney for an appeal. Not freedman