Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Freedman has issued a statement, just read about it Us weekly. Looks like they do plan to amend the filings.

Thanks. NAG had a theory yesterday they should amend to keep the breach of contract claim alive, because that keeps Lively's on set behavior relevant which is important for discovery of the so called "movie stealing."

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Anonymous wrote:Why does it seem like "the public" just refers to people who participate in pro Baldoni online spaces?

Which is basically all public spaces if you read the comments on any of yesterday’s articles.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch when Blake drops all of this hoax nonsense in a few weeks. July 4th week is my guess. Hush hush settlement, NDAs all around and everyone carries on like this never happened. Hollywood is just an evil fake place. The only winners here are the parasitic lawyers and bottom feeding bot armies.

If there’s a settlement now, it will be a settlement where Sarowitz/Baldoni pays Lively millions of dollars, and not the other way around as the Baldoni supporters who have been urging for months have said previously. Actions have consequences and that MTD Order that we’ve been warning you about for months was devastating.

But otherwise, sure, keep pushing your settlement wish.

She can keep bleeding attorney fees all she wants on this hoax. It’s a lose lose for all involved and the harm has already been done to her and her husband’s reputations.

Are you okay? Do you need someone to track your location through your IP address and send help? Let us know.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew a judge’s ruling was the end all be all on this sub forum. Page after page of whining over how Johnny Depo dodged accountability and “won” in court only because he was the more famous A-lister with all the connections. The whiners continue to call Johnny an abusive sociopath. Same dynamic here: Blake and notably her husband are A-listers with exponentially more wealthy and Hollywood connections. Blake gets a court “win” and we’re supposed to forget she and her husband manufactured this hoax from thin air?

This forum has more lawyers per capita and many of us are interested in the legal case, not a particular side. This is a big deal for us, we're nerds.

You've repeated this line for months ("forum with the most lawyers and journalists per capita") and I believed it since I'm fairly new here, yet I'm a journalist, and in the past, when I asked for other reporters' input on some elements of this case, there were crickets, lol. With the exception of one poster who magically was a "fact checker" in the past.

DP but PP above didn’t say “the most lawyers and journalists” above, she just said lawyers.

Whatever, she's always said some variation of that line, and just like she's wrong about the amount of journalists, she's also probably wrong about the amount of lawyers on here, too.

DP but I’ve been on this thread for months and people in the thread have been commenting since the beginning that there are an outsized number of lawyers (or people who claim they are lawyers) in the thread compared to a regular thread, and that seems correct to me. Not sure re journalists. YMMV.

Stop spamming your bullshit disinformation. None of the spamming losers are successful attorneys.

And yet they correctly predicted dismissal.

Yes, it was always an uphill battle. That doesn’t absolve these hoax scam artists. Just as OJ wasn’t innocent.

Huh, I don't remember it being called an uphill battle when the JB side was insisting BL should immediately settle these cases for tens of millions.

Right? Where has this person been for the last four months of discussion Baldoni’s supposedly strong and persuasive claims worth $400M? It was not discussed by Baldoni supporters as an “uphill battle.” They have been urging Luvely to settle for tens of millions of dollars and a statement of contrition for months.

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If I were advising Baldoni, as someone who thinks Blake’s case is bs, this is what I would do:
(1) Hire an experienced appellate lawyer with familiarity with defamation to appeal the defamation dismissals. Perhaps who ever got Palin’s dismissal reversed by the Second Circuit.
(2) Hire a woman attorney with experience in front of Liman. Liman is pretty unorthodox so having some one familiar with how he thinks will help. Replead the claims dismissed with prejudice. Consider whether discovery has revealed any additional claims, and if so, ask for leave to include them in the June 23 rd complaint.
(3) keep zFreedman as the pr guy

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Freedman's statement ends with a declaration of intent that he will take Lively's deposition. "Most importantly, Ms. Lively’s own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday, and with the facts on our side, we march forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle and look forward to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking." lol, this guy! I think this is actually the main leverage they have remaining at this point.

He talks about filing an amended complaint but not about appeal.

He also says Lively is focused on the "untraceable" smear campaign and that Lively uses the word "untraceable" because they can't find evidence of it, but actually that was the language used by Baldoni's own PR team, so this is not really the burn he thinks it is.

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I mean, is Team Baldoni really "march[ing] forward with the same confidence" as they were two days ago? Seems like a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this suggested on Reddit and thought it was interesting (link to thread here, this quote is from the comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/ItEndsWithLawsuits/comments/1l7o47r/did_people_actually_read_all_the_legal_filings/):

"Baldoni’s entire defense was that Blake supposedly made up the sexual harassment to steal the movie. That claim’s been thrown out and can’t be brought up again. I have no idea what Baldoni’s defense is even going to be now. Why did she “lie” about being sexually harassed?"

I am not sure this is true or not and would be curious what others think. But if it is true, this would make this loss a much bigger deal that I think a lot of people currently think it is, because it could have implications for how well Justin can defend himself against the SH allegations. I'm curious if a jury will be as persuaded by just a straightforward defense (this didn't happen, she is lying or her perception is wrong) rather than this theory they've been putting forward that she was lying on purpose in order to gain control of the movie or obtain the rights to the sequel.

I’m not sure how much they can prove she was trying to get rights to the sequel. It’s not a stretch in my mind, but I have no idea if they can prove that or convince a jury.

However it seems very easy to show she was taking control of the movie via of the sexual harassment allegations. They absolutely advanced her role in the movie and it’s hard to argue otherwise. She simply would not have gotten PGA credit, which is a very powerful and sought after credential if you want to do things like direct and produce, which apparently she did. It was smart of Wayfare to write that letter and file it with their legal team to show that they did it under duress.

She also took control of the marketing of the movie which financially benefited Ryan, she blatantly sad that she wouldn’t charge the use of his marketing firm to the film and then she did. So they got paid, but also it allowed her to take control of the marketing and launch her hair products during promotions for the film as well as shill for Ryan’s gin line. Yes, inexplicably she had drinks made with his gin and her booze line even named after characters in the film during promotional events.

She also levered the fact that Ryan wrote the rooftop scene and was able to share that on the red carpet which helped them create the Barbenheimer effect they were trying to create. Tons of red carpet footage of her talking about Ryan and Deadpool. Showing that Deadpool was playing in the marquis next door etc.

It seemed like wayfarer was blindsided by the list after the strike and she used the list to leverage a lot of control over the film. I don’t know how all of it will shake out or even if it will go to trial, but it’s hard not to see that she got a lot of things when her lawyers started sending threatening letters to Wayfarer and alleging sexual harassment.

Gotta appreciate the hopefulness here I guess after a day like yesterday I guess. Not even Freedman is out there spouting this rn so good job you I guess.

I don’t understand what you are talking about. Blake lively still very much has to show sexual harassment and retaliation took place.

Her former best friends don’t believe her, Hollywood doesn’t believe her, but I’m sure she is glad some anonymous poster on DCUM is shilling for her.

I don't think you can conclude "Hollywood" doesn't believe her. She's gotten quite a bit of support. Agent hasn't dropped her, she still gets invited to stuff, she's been seen publicly with Hollywood people. I think people are wary of her because of the bad press but that's different than thinking she's lying.

No idea what to make of the Taylor falling out, would love to know what the issue was there. But I'm not convinced that Taylor thinks she's lying -- Taylor didn't seem particularly in Baldoni's side, and if she thought Blake was just making it all up, I would think she would have been more supportive of Baldoni. Instead it just seemed like she was annoyed to be brought into it at all and annoyed with both Blake and Baldoni. Which reads to me like she thinks they both suck, which is very different from thinking Blake is lying.

You are overthinking and over analyzing the Taylor thing. Of course she didn’t take Baldoni side, they were never friends. Sounds like she met him once at the apartment and she’s pissed that she got dragged into this. It would be very weird for her to support Justin. Frankly, I support Justin, but I don’t like the guy. I think he’s a bit of a fraud and super annoying, I just don’t think he sexually harassed blake.

Taylor hasn’t been seen with Blake since October. I think she caught wind of this and was fed up. It’s pretty clear that even before the dragons text she felt like she was being used. It’s now coming out that a bunch of her friends have been warning Taylor about Blake lively for years. Selena Gomez in particular was very weary and always thought Blake was using her. I think seeing some of Blake’s actions and then seeing some of her resurfaced interviews as we all did in August made her very weary. She started distancing herself way before the Kalisi text.

The New Year’s Time article dropped December 21 and Taylor was silent and not supporting her. And that’s when we were all supporting her because the article was so one-sided! I for sure thought she’d been sexually harassed. So it was particularly damning for Taylor, who stands up for women, was silent about her best friend.

I mean, even Blake’s sisterhood of the traveling pants costars, and Amy Schumer issued statements of support at that time. But Taylor, totally silent. And not even willing to be seen with Blake. Or throw any kind of indicator that they were friends when the whole Super Bowl came and went, and Blake was not there.

So I’m a little confused why you’d say “I don’t know what to make of the Taylor thing.” there’s nothing to make of . It seems pretty clear that Taylor is set up with her and cut her out of her life and is not supporting her. Having Travis publicly Unfollow Ryan was icing on the cake, and talk about breadcrumbs, it was instantly picked up and it’s been months and she’s done nothing to say oh it was a mistake. There’s nothing really to make of it. It is what it is.

None of this indicates that Taylor thinks Blake is lying. It does indicate that she doesn't appreciate being used as a 'dragon', being dragged into the legal fight, or being blackmailed. Taylor has cut people out of her life for much less.

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Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman's statement ends with a declaration of intent that he will take Lively's deposition. "Most importantly, Ms. Lively’s own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday, and with the facts on our side, we march forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle and look forward to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking." lol, this guy! I think this is actually the main leverage they have remaining at this point.

He talks about filing an amended complaint but not about appeal.

He also says Lively is focused on the "untraceable" smear campaign and that Lively uses the word "untraceable" because they can't find evidence of it, but actually that was the language used by Baldoni's own PR team, so this is not really the burn he thinks it is.

That statement is alright but it shouldn't have taken a day to come up with it. It suggests they really were caught off guard and thought they would have plenty of time and an easy roadmap to rewrite all their claims.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman's statement ends with a declaration of intent that he will take Lively's deposition. "Most importantly, Ms. Lively’s own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday, and with the facts on our side, we march forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle and look forward to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking." lol, this guy! I think this is actually the main leverage they have remaining at this point.

He talks about filing an amended complaint but not about appeal.

He also says Lively is focused on the "untraceable" smear campaign and that Lively uses the word "untraceable" because they can't find evidence of it, but actually that was the language used by Baldoni's own PR team, so this is not really the burn he thinks it is.

That statement is alright but it shouldn't have taken a day to come up with it. It suggests they really were caught off guard and thought they would have plenty of time and an easy roadmap to rewrite all their claims.

They were wrong, but 75 plus percent of the time, they would have been right. Dan Abrams was talking about the case this morning and even he expressed surprise.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman's statement ends with a declaration of intent that he will take Lively's deposition. "Most importantly, Ms. Lively’s own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday, and with the facts on our side, we march forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle and look forward to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking." lol, this guy! I think this is actually the main leverage they have remaining at this point.

He talks about filing an amended complaint but not about appeal.

He also says Lively is focused on the "untraceable" smear campaign and that Lively uses the word "untraceable" because they can't find evidence of it, but actually that was the language used by Baldoni's own PR team, so this is not really the burn he thinks it is.

That statement is alright but it shouldn't have taken a day to come up with it. It suggests they really were caught off guard and thought they would have plenty of time and an easy roadmap to rewrite all their claims.

They were wrong, but 75 plus percent of the time, they would have been rightly . Dan Abrams was talking about the case this morning and even he expressed surprise.

Adding that they need more intelligence on how Liman works. That’s been missing.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at this point, I think Lively should welcome Freedman taking her deposition instead of a lawyer with more legal acuity. Freedman should be worried about Lively getting under his skin as much as he wants to intimidate her into thinking he will get under hers. Prep her well and she will be fine. Let Freedman sink himself.

We’ve all seen her interviews. She isn’t going to be hard to depose.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedman's statement ends with a declaration of intent that he will take Lively's deposition. "Most importantly, Ms. Lively’s own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday, and with the facts on our side, we march forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle and look forward to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking." lol, this guy! I think this is actually the main leverage they have remaining at this point.

He talks about filing an amended complaint but not about appeal.

He also says Lively is focused on the "untraceable" smear campaign and that Lively uses the word "untraceable" because they can't find evidence of it, but actually that was the language used by Baldoni's own PR team, so this is not really the burn he thinks it is.

That statement is alright but it shouldn't have taken a day to come up with it. It suggests they really were caught off guard and thought they would have plenty of time and an easy roadmap to rewrite all their claims.

I agree. Fwiw, this was Freedman's letter to the judge on April 15 saying he wouldn't amend the complaint, clearly not envisioning the bomb that dropped on them yesterday: "As counsel for Wayfarer Studios LLC, Justin Baldoni, Jamey Heath, Steve Sarowitz, It Ends With Us Movie LLC, Melissa Nathan, The Agency Group PR LLC, and Jennifer Abel (collectively, the “Wayfarer Parties”), we write to notify the Court that the Wayfarer Parties do not intend to move for leave to amend their pleading by the April 18, 2025 deadline set forth in the Case Management Plan and Scheduling Order. The Wayfarer Parties stand behind the operative First Amended Complaint and are confident that, for the reasons outlined in their opposition briefs (Dkt. Nos. 121, 127, 160, 162), the currently-pending motions to dismiss will be denied. If the Court were to grant one or more of the motions to any extent, the Wayfarer Parties will move for leave to amend pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 15(a)(2) and seek a commensurate modification of the Scheduling Order under the “good cause” standard pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 16(b)(4) and consistent with the guidance set forth in Furry Puppet Studio Inc. v. Fall Out Boy."

Like his current TMZ statement, Freedman projects cheerful positive vibez at all times about his prospects even though such projections often do not comport with reality.