SJC v. O’Connell - wild ending?

[Anonymous]

Heard that SJC v O’Connell WCAC boys playoff game had a wild ending on Tuesday. Game went to penalties but SJC coach wanted a bench player to shoot. Ref said no. Big dispute ensued and refs apparently walked off field. Game was suspended. Penalties apparently happened today. Anyone there? Sounded kinda crazy.

[Anonymous]

O'Connell won today after PKs -- they now advance to the semi-finals. Yesterday's game was played at O'Connell and was tied 2-2. After dispute about who could shoot, SJC coach received yellow card followed by red card and kicked out of game. Ref had enough of coach, then said no PKs, game forfeited -- win to O'Connell. Ref contacted SJC athletic director about behavior of SJC coach. O'Connell coach said no, need to have PKs to confirm winner. SJC team (with a different coach) went back to O'Connell today to complete PKs. O'Connell won.

[Anonymous]

The SJC was out of line- card had more to do with disrespecting the ref than wanting a bench player to take a PK. The guy was out of control all game and apparently has been reported to the school and league. He refused to leave the field after the second yellow/red and kept at the refs—- that is when the officials called the game.

[Anonymous]

Not a good look sjc. Congrats djo.

[Anonymous]

How embarrassing. Hopefully that guy gets some help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How embarrassing. Hopefully that guy gets some help.

Isn't that the Achilles coach? If so, not a surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How embarrassing. Hopefully that guy gets some help.

Isn't that the Achilles coach? If so, not a surprise.

If it is, agree no surprise, always been like that.

[Anonymous]

This isn't the first time Coach Sal has acted like this. There will not be any repercussions. This is SJC.

[Anonymous]

Good for the O’Connell coach, not the SJC boys fault, let them play it out. No asterisk necessary, he obviously had faith in his boys and they won it.

[Anonymous]

Two points. One, Sal clearly needs some counseling. Two, every player on your team should be capable of taking a penalty. What kind of a message does it send to the players that your coach thinks its such a travesty for one player to not be able to take a penalty over another? This is how you lose a team and possibly a job.

[Anonymous]

SJC has a new President and may not be as forgiving as prior regime. Will be curious to see how things shake out. SJC boys have been in bottom half of WCAC last couple years (7 of 11 this fall) so can’t excuse this behavior because of winning.

[Anonymous]

I just pulled up the SJC Handbook. https://www.stjohnschs.org/userfiles/sjchsmvc/documents/parents-resources/2023-2024-Student-Parent-Handbook-August-2023.pdf

Pages 20-25 speak generally to behavior and disciplinary procedures. A few pages later this is the section that specifically applies to behavior at athletic events:
"At athletic events, students are expected to always conduct themselves in a sportsman-like manner. This means that students are
to treat players, coaches, officials, and all fans with courtesy and respect. The use of profanity will not be tolerated. Any violation
of these guidelines will result in removal from the event and may result in further disciplinary action. Certain egregious forms of
misconduct may also lead to dismissal."

This speaks only about students, but basically if a student behaved this way they could face serious disciplinary consequences. Hypocrisy if SJC doesn't hold its adults to the same standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two points. One, Sal clearly needs some counseling. Two, every player on your team should be capable of taking a penalty. What kind of a message does it send to the players that your coach thinks its such a travesty for one player to not be able to take a penalty over another? This is how you lose a team and possibly a job.

Bad take. Of course anyone that is able to walk is CAPABLE of taking a penalty, but not every player is confident at them, wants to do them, or is good at them. Some kids love the pressure and/or are good at them. You do not lose a team by subbing a player out to put on your best PK taker. and lose your job for subbing on your best PK taker? Really? Hahah

[Anonymous]

Well, what does the rule say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two points. One, Sal clearly needs some counseling. Two, every player on your team should be capable of taking a penalty. What kind of a message does it send to the players that your coach thinks its such a travesty for one player to not be able to take a penalty over another? This is how you lose a team and possibly a job.

Bad take. Of course anyone that is able to walk is CAPABLE of taking a penalty, but not every player is confident at them, wants to do them, or is good at them. Some kids love the pressure and/or are good at them. You do not lose a team by subbing a player out to put on your best PK taker. and lose your job for subbing on your best PK taker? Really? Hahah

Stop sniffing glue. I think everyone else understood I meant you lose the players not by making basic decisions but by throwing a tantrum over one kid taking a PK over another as if it's life and death. It's pretty common rule in soccer that whoever finishes the game is eligible for the PKs. Know the basic rules before you throw a fit. You lose your job by causing a scene at a playoff match that leads to referees contacting the school and the conference. I've got $100 that says he's done.