The Pitt, Season 2

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Anonymous wrote:Favorite parts:

Digby with Whittaker’s badge and the mannequin in the shopping cart

Whitaker happily driving off with the farmer’s wife in a truck. Love that she got out so he could drive - that tickled me, so old fashioned!

Karaoke after the credits

The female characters with their hair down and in regular clothes on the roof.

Abbott being the one who could really get thru to Robby because he is an adrenaline junkie and ER doctor too. “I think it’s a song lyric” cracked me up.

I loved the sitting and charting and sleeping and kvetching scenes. Kind of a break from the medical stuff.

Langdon telling Robby he needed therapy.

Least favorites:
Robby and Dana- so boring this season ultimately

I did not love this, in fact was actively annoyed by it. Stupidly old fashioned, the man was dead tired after working something like 16 hours.

+1

Not cute at all.

But so consistent with his character, wouldn’t you say? Whitaker WOULD drive. He’d also be a super engaged surrogate father which we saw when he talked to the baby. He’s from a farm in deep red country dating a farm widow who probably lives in a deep red Pittsburgh suburb. He’s very much the gentleman- always over the top polite and accommodating to cranky Santos. Of COURSE he’s going to drive! I just thought it was a cute little confirmation of who they have been setting up to be all this time.

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Anonymous wrote:Favorite parts:

Digby with Whittaker’s badge and the mannequin in the shopping cart

Whitaker happily driving off with the farmer’s wife in a truck. Love that she got out so he could drive - that tickled me, so old fashioned!

Karaoke after the credits

The female characters with their hair down and in regular clothes on the roof.

Abbott being the one who could really get thru to Robby because he is an adrenaline junkie and ER doctor too. “I think it’s a song lyric” cracked me up.

I loved the sitting and charting and sleeping and kvetching scenes. Kind of a break from the medical stuff.

Langdon telling Robby he needed therapy.

Least favorites:
Robby and Dana- so boring this season ultimately

I did not love this, in fact was actively annoyed by it. Stupidly old fashioned, the man was dead tired after working something like 16 hours.

+1

Not cute at all.

But so consistent with his character, wouldn’t you say? Whitaker WOULD drive. He’d also be a super engaged surrogate father which we saw when he talked to the baby. He’s from a farm in deep red country dating a farm widow who probably lives in a deep red Pittsburgh suburb. He’s very much the gentleman- always over the top polite and accommodating to cranky Santos. Of COURSE he’s going to drive! I just thought it was a cute little confirmation of who they have been setting up to be all this time.

This is what I was going to say. I went to college with some boys from rural Nebraska and this is 100% what they'd do. They'd insist on in, but in a sweet way. They'd say things like "my momma would never forgive me if I let a lady pay for her own dinner."

Not my thing at all andi could never be with someone like this because of course it's very retrograde. But also, looking back from middle age -- a lot of those boys probably made wonderful, loyal, helpful husbands. That division of labor is dangerous if the guy is a jerk but if he's a puppy like Whitaker, who would never get aggressive or hurt someone, it could actually be great. Instead of controlling, it's like the opposite -- he's in service to her, and she's in charge.

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

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One of the linked interviews said there was a way forward for Langdon and Santos! Yeah! I would like to see them becoming friends!

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

DP (one of multiple people who thinks you are being ridiculous) but Baram literally says in the scene with Robby that she thinks the first seizure of the day (which occurred while she was looking down at Baby Jane Doe, who was crying) may have been triggered because it was her first pediatric case "since Afghanistan" (where she was in a terror attack at a maternity hospital). SHE is the one linking her epileptic seizures to her PTSD (which the actress confirmed she has). No one here is making these links -- it's in the text of the show.

Epileptic seizures are commonly brought on by stress. PTSD episodes are stress.

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Anonymous wrote:Favorite parts:

Digby with Whittaker’s badge and the mannequin in the shopping cart

Whitaker happily driving off with the farmer’s wife in a truck. Love that she got out so he could drive - that tickled me, so old fashioned!

Karaoke after the credits

The female characters with their hair down and in regular clothes on the roof.

Abbott being the one who could really get thru to Robby because he is an adrenaline junkie and ER doctor too. “I think it’s a song lyric” cracked me up.

I loved the sitting and charting and sleeping and kvetching scenes. Kind of a break from the medical stuff.

Langdon telling Robby he needed therapy.

Least favorites:
Robby and Dana- so boring this season ultimately

I did not love this, in fact was actively annoyed by it. Stupidly old fashioned, the man was dead tired after working something like 16 hours.

I actually thought it added another layer to him. He seems more passive in the work envt but he takes on the "dominant" role in his relationship.

Its not my thing but it did make me think about him in a different way. Just like we got to see all the characters "let their hair down" in their street clothes at the end.

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

DP you are wrong. My child has epilepsy that was obviously not caused by PTSD or stress. Their neurologist said the main trigger for a seizure would be lack of sleep and stress.

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

DP (one of multiple people who thinks you are being ridiculous) but Baram literally says in the scene with Robby that she thinks the first seizure of the day (which occurred while she was looking down at Baby Jane Doe, who was crying) may have been triggered because it was her first pediatric case "since Afghanistan" (where she was in a terror attack at a maternity hospital). SHE is the one linking her epileptic seizures to her PTSD (which the actress confirmed she has). No one here is making these links -- it's in the text of the show.

Epileptic seizures are commonly brought on by stress. PTSD episodes are stress.

My original point stands. The initial comment way back when was only about her having PTSD and mentioned nothing about epilepsy. That poster had no idea about her epilepsy.

The seizures could be bought on by stress, but the seizure itself is not a PTSD episode. How do you not understand that?

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

DP you are wrong. My child has epilepsy that was obviously not caused by PTSD or stress. Their neurologist said the main trigger for a seizure would be lack of sleep and stress.

That is exactly my point. Her initial condition, epilepsy, was not caused by PTSD. The PP had no idea it was epilepsy. All of the speculation about her episodes were based on PTSD only, and now we know that is not true. She had a much deeper condition that began in childhood.

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Anonymous wrote:What was your take on when Nurse Dana was holding the other nurse during fireworks – long day, state of the country, etc.? I don’t want my personal views to cloud the meaning and this, but maybe that’s the point.

I understood her tears to be around fear for any undocumented family members/friends and disappointment in America.

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

DP you are wrong. My child has epilepsy that was obviously not caused by PTSD or stress. Their neurologist said the main trigger for a seizure would be lack of sleep and stress.

That is exactly my point. Her initial condition, epilepsy, was not caused by PTSD. The PP had no idea it was epilepsy. All of the speculation about her episodes were based on PTSD only, and now we know that is not true. She had a much deeper condition that began in childhood.

No one is saying that her epilepsy was caused by stress or PTSD. But her seizures had been under control and the fact that she is having breakthrough seizures is caused by stress (stress caused by/related to ptsd).

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

So I’m not sure this is correct now based on the info we have now about her epilepsy.

So now we know it was both -- she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but had been mostly seizure free as an adult, but she notes she had not worked on pediatric cases "since Afghanistan" and Baby Jane Doe was her first seizure of the day, perhaps brought on by the child crying and a stress response due to her experience in the maternity hospital in Afghanistan during the terror attack.

PTSD and epilepsy are 2 very different things. Someone (I assume you) stated that she has PTSD and that’s what caused her seizures and she likely sees a neurologist for PTSD. That’s not true. She sees a neurologist for seizures caused by epilepsy, not PTSD. Moreover, we don’t even know if she has PTSD.

She’d need a therapist for PTSD.

Sepideh Moafi (the actress who plays her) has something to say about herself, PTSD, and Robby
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/sepideh-moafi-dr-al-hashimi-robby-the-pitt-finale-interview-rcna332172

She says her character has PTSD. Ok. But that’s not what causes her absence seizures. That’s a brain condition and requires meds to control it. She’s had that since the age of 5. Absence seizures are not flashbacks like in PTSD. Her PTSD was not causing her seizures.

Just admit you had no idea about her epilepsy and were wrong to say her “episodes” were caused by PTSD.

She called her neurologist because of her seizures, not her PTSD.

You are rude! Stress can contribute to both of those. They are not siloed in the way you might imagine. Be nice!

What’s rude about facts? The seizures started at age 5 and were not due to stress. She had viral meningitis. PTSD is not the root cause of her seizures.

PTSD is completely different from an absence seizure medically. But do carry on.

DP you are wrong. My child has epilepsy that was obviously not caused by PTSD or stress. Their neurologist said the main trigger for a seizure would be lack of sleep and stress.

That is exactly my point. Her initial condition, epilepsy, was not caused by PTSD. The PP had no idea it was epilepsy. All of the speculation about her episodes were based on PTSD only, and now we know that is not true. She had a much deeper condition that began in childhood.

No one is saying that her epilepsy was caused by stress or PTSD. But her seizures had been under control and the fact that she is having breakthrough seizures is caused by stress (stress caused by/related to ptsd).

The original quote from earlier in the thread stated she was having a dissociative episode due to PTSD. It was speculation at that point. That poster was wrong. She was actually having en epileptic seizure at that point.

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Also loved the dead guy in chairs!

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I didn’t quite get the Digby thing at the end - why would he have Whittaker’s badge? What was he doing with it?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t quite get the Digby thing at the end - why would he have Whittaker’s badge? What was he doing with it?

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