Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 5

Anonymous
I'm not a Kavanaugh or Republican fan but how do you find someone guilty when there is no corroboration and the accuser can't recall when or where the assault took place. It's the lack of when or where that troubles me. Last weeks hearings turned into a "court of law" thanks to all of the idiots involved. I know this wasn't a trial with prosecutors and defense attorneys but that's how it played out. No jury would have found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't doubt that something happened to her and I know his behavior during those years was boorish but the preponderance of evidence is incredibly weak.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: The only good spin I can put on Collins speech is: that she felt compelled to toe the Republican line, but wanted to be clear directly to BK and all others watching that she expects him to be true to his word about upholding abortion and being a fair judge in general...so that’s why most of the speech was very clear recitation of his statements and approach on those topics


She's so naive, isn't she?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sham investigation orchestrated by McGahn at Trump's consent

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1048382366585167872



No surprise there. We all knew it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a Kavanaugh or Republican fan but how do you find someone guilty when there is no corroboration and the accuser can't recall when or where the assault took place. It's the lack of when or where that troubles me. Last weeks hearings turned into a "court of law" thanks to all of the idiots involved. I know this wasn't a trial with prosecutors and defense attorneys but that's how it played out. No jury would have found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't doubt that something happened to her and I know his behavior during those years was boorish but the preponderance of evidence is incredibly weak.


No. Not even close. Didn't you have civics in elementary school? Not in Russia I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most men are great fathers and respectfully women. I hate the generalization that all men are scum...
makr up something to shadow box. I am disgusted with what happened today. I know very well it’s jot all men. I’ve never posted otherwise. The ones who have are trolls imitating “libs.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sham investigation orchestrated by McGahn at Trump's consent

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1048382366585167872
Anyone who votes yes for this sham of a nominee is part of a criminal conspiracy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal female federal employee. Everything the right hates. I have an amazing husband, two very cool (IMHO), very nerdy, completely awesome kids, and two cats with attitude problems. I run a lot of carpools.

I also experienced a sexual assault before age 18. I’d like to say I was at the Capital today with my story, and making my voice heard, but I wasn’t. I’m not strong enough or brave enough to talk about it. The only people I have been able to tell are my husband, my therapist and my best friend. My husband and best friend know that I was assaulted, but not the details. My therapist knows the details because I have written them down. I can’t talk to her about it. So I write to her about it. I still can’t say the words 25 years later. I still have nightmares.

What Susan Collins did today was cruel. She could have been a yes all along and not created the buildup. She could have left it at announcing a yes this morning, like Flake or Sasse, and moved on without the drama. I hate their decisions, but they weren’t personal they way Collins’s was. She could have discussed his record and their discussions..
I really don’t understand why Susan Collins would say she believes Dr. Ford— except she doesn’t believe the part about the attempted rape. That she believes sexual assault is important— just not important enough to actually do anything. While making a production of being the person responsible for ramming Kavanaugh through Congress. Her speech was an extra special f#ck you to #MeToo.

I wouldn’t understand the cruelty if a man did it either. But it seemed more personal coming from a woman. I saw a tweet that called it worlds slowest, longest middle finger to sexual assault survivors. And it was.

This is certainly why I have never been able to talk about it. Because I know that she’s saying what most people think.

It was very hard to hear Dr. Fords testimony, and it has been a hard ten day. Susan Collins made sure the knife was jammed in as far as possible and twisted.

These are liberal tears. Literally. This lib concedes. I have been owned. Congrats. I hope you feel better than I do.

I am so, so sorry. Hugs and holding you in the light.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Senator Collins is methodical, thoughtful and sets an example for all senators to follow. She voted for Sotomayor and Kagan. She would be a firm no had Leland Keyser corroborated Ford, or PJ remembered it, or MJ remembered it, or the driver who drove her home come forward, or the therapists notes mentioned Kav's name, or anything corroborated her. For anyone who is participating hate campaign against Collins, shame on you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/abusive-calls-are-latest-pressure-campaign-against-sen-collins-n908611


She has a miserable record as a senator. Shame on her. Can't wait til she's voted out.



So funny. She is miserable cuz you are a Democrat. You would have voted against her anyways.

Oh, where do you live? Does she even care about your vote if you love here in DC. I would not care....


People in dc may not be able to vote for her opponent, but they sure can financially support her/him.


Just as others can send their money to support Susan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am a tad addicted to all of these threads, sadly.

Someone posted a while ago that they do not like women who always believe women.

Well, women who NEVER believe women and always side with men are the most pathetic creatures ever. So there.

Must be awful to hate yourself.


It's not about "so there." It's about giving people the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty. Men can lie, and so can women.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I teach kids, and I’m considering changing my approach. I’ve tried teaching kindness, empathy, honesty, and understanding. I’ve actually told kids that these skills will help them navigate their world in the future.

But I think I’m going to start teaching that what really matters is always winning and always being right. Be the best, best everyone else, you’re always right and never wrong. Hold her down, she doesn’t matter, forget it ever happened, grow up and compete and be better than everyone, so you alone can win. I mean, right?


Note the following news story:

https://torontosun.com/news/world/mean-girls-face-lawsuit-over-false-sex-allegations-against-teen

A cabal of “Mean Girls” terrorized a teenage boy with bogus sex assault allegations turning the former star baseball player into a nervous wreck. Now, the unnamed teen’s parents have launched a lawsuit seeking unspecified damages from the girls’ parents, the school district and Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger’s office.



How do we know this boy is telling the truth?

Maybe he wanted to date one of the mean girls and she turned him down so he made this up!



For those of you who don’t believe the war against boys and men is real! Blame the boy! Girls are blameless darlings. For the women who say they are telling their sons that no means no as an offensive strategy, what is your defensive strategy for this sort of thing?


Please. There is no war against boys. There’s a war against bullies and rapists. Men are victims of assault too. If I had a boy that was accused of assault by three different sets of women and he had lied repeatedly in trial, no way i’d believe him.


Then you do you. Just because three women make accusations doesn't mean that's the truth. Not every woman is honest. I'd have to consider all the evidence as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Senator Collins is methodical, thoughtful and sets an example for all senators to follow. She voted for Sotomayor and Kagan. She would be a firm no had Leland Keyser corroborated Ford, or PJ remembered it, or MJ remembered it, or the driver who drove her home come forward, or the therapists notes mentioned Kav's name, or anything corroborated her. For anyone who is participating hate campaign against Collins, shame on you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/abusive-calls-are-latest-pressure-campaign-against-sen-collins-n908611


She has a miserable record as a senator. Shame on her. Can't wait til she's voted out.


That's your opinion. I don't agree with you at all.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Every one of the republicans who votes for rapist O’Kavanaugh needs to be removed from office. Vote them all out. They are evil. Salt the earth where they live.

Now he's a rapist? LOL. He wasn't even accused of that.

Did you even listen to Collins? [b]Or did you shut her out, as you do with any opinion that differs from yours?[/b]


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Senator Collins is methodical, thoughtful and sets an example for all senators to follow. She voted for Sotomayor and Kagan. She would be a firm no had Leland Keyser corroborated Ford, or PJ remembered it, or MJ remembered it, or the driver who drove her home come forward, or the therapists notes mentioned Kav's name, or anything corroborated her. For anyone who is participating hate campaign against Collins, shame on you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/abusive-calls-are-latest-pressure-campaign-against-sen-collins-n908611


She has a miserable record as a senator. Shame on her. Can't wait til she's voted out.


That's your opinion. I don't agree with you at all.


That’s your opinion. I don’t agree with you at all.

We could do this all night.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Then you do you. Just because three women make accusations doesn't mean that's the truth. Not every woman is honest. I'd have to consider all the evidence as well.

JFC.
1 in 6 women is the victim of a rape or attempted rape.
2% of all rape accusations are false.
2/3 of all rapes are unreported

Three public accusations against Brett. Do some math. Use some critical thinking skills. What is more likely: the angry man who couldn’t control himself also has a problem with women, or there’s a smear campaign that’s been orchestrated since about 2012. Seriously.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal female federal employee. Everything the right hates. I have an amazing husband, two very cool (IMHO), very nerdy, completely awesome kids, and two cats with attitude problems. I run a lot of carpools.

I also experienced a sexual assault before age 18. I’d like to say I was at the Capital today with my story, and making my voice heard, but I wasn’t. I’m not strong enough or brave enough to talk about it. The only people I have been able to tell are my husband, my therapist and my best friend. My husband and best friend know that I was assaulted, but not the details. My therapist knows the details because I have written them down. I can’t talk to her about it. So I write to her about it. I still can’t say the words 25 years later. I still have nightmares.

What Susan Collins did today was cruel. She could have been a yes all along and not created the buildup. She could have left it at announcing a yes this morning, like Flake or Sasse, and moved on without the drama. I hate their decisions, but they weren’t personal they way Collins’s was. She could have discussed his record and their discussions..
I really don’t understand why Susan Collins would say she believes Dr. Ford— except she doesn’t believe the part about the attempted rape. That she believes sexual assault is important— just not important enough to actually do anything. While making a production of being the person responsible for ramming Kavanaugh through Congress. Her speech was an extra special f#ck you to #MeToo.

I wouldn’t understand the cruelty if a man did it either. But it seemed more personal coming from a woman. I saw a tweet that called it worlds slowest, longest middle finger to sexual assault survivors. And it was.

This is certainly why I have never been able to talk about it. Because I know that she’s saying what most people think.

It was very hard to hear Dr. Fords testimony, and it has been a hard ten day. Susan Collins made sure the knife was jammed in as far as possible and twisted.

These are liberal tears. Literally. This lib concedes. I have been owned. Congrats. I hope you feel better than I do.


Hugs to you. I hear you and I believe you.


+1000000.


Me, too; I’m so sorry for all of this. For all of this repulsive, cruel theater.

It also bothers me deeply that Collins was scathing and dishonest regarding Swetnick’s unpursued claim, and wholly ignored Debbie Ramirez. So cruel and unnecessary, all of it. But very revealing. Only a white professor, who presents as girlish and sweet and credible, even warranted comment. A Latina Yale graduate described multiple times as unfailingly honest, is totally ignored. A woman regarded as not quite of the Dr. Ford class, who wasn’t a private school kid, is treated as garbage. As an outrage.

What decent person does this?


Swetnick's claims of Kavanaugh being part of a serial gang rape ring were so over the top and outrageous that they likely tanked the whole thing. I'm left wondering if Avenatti is actually a Republican operative. Swetnick's story changed dramatically from the letter she first wrote, to her NBC interview a week later. Why would Sen Collins give them any credibility? They deserved NONE. I believe those were the claims that had Kavanaugh so fired up last week.
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