The police botched the entire crime scene. They let people walk all over that house and even clean up dishes in the kitchen. They did not secure the crime scene and they let all or any evidence be contaminated. So I don't think it is a stretch to say they didn't do a very good job at collecting evidence either. They kept saying "oh we ruled him out because he didn't match any of our evidence". I think most people doubt that they had any decent evidence anyway. |
Is there any info on what the initials " S B T C" on the ransom note stand for? I read somewhere that Michael Helgoth had a hat with those same initials that was found after his death. |
Saved by the Cross is one guess. |
The special I'm watching said "Santa" was 1.5 hours away from the crime the night of the murder and there were numerous alibi witnesses. |
That was a stupid one. People tried to say the ransom note had references to the Bible. It did not at all. |
Yes, there were four alibi witnesses. But there is some diehard Ramsey apologist that can't let it go. |
A special is starting on cbs in a few minutes
Apparently it's three parts and they name the experts suspect at the end... |
d I heard their alibi was that they were asleep. I also thought Fleet White, the jealous neighbor, could have done it. He was very close to the family and searched the house with John, and discovered the body. He later turned on the Ramsey's and became obsessed with the case, ending up in jail for a short time forignoring a subpoena related to the case. Definitely suspect. Also he was in the navy and an expert at sailing - so the whole thing rope/knot thing was relevant. |
Yes. Also, Patsy was not ruled out as the writer of the ransom note, despite what some here are proclaiming. Keep us updated about the conclusions from the special! I've decided not to watch, afraid I will have nightmares. |
The thing about Santa not being strong enough - if JB went downstairs with him willingly, that makes more sense.
Also, there was a homeless guy in JB's neighborhood around the time of her death whose background included pedophilia and he tried to strangle his mom with a phone cord.Gary Oliva. http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/22/jonbenet-ramsey-child-porn-boulder-gary-oliva/ |
Yes. Just one person out there who questions that it was the Ramseys. ![]() |
The alibi witnesses were a few family and friends that came over in the early evening and then left. Their alibi for the rest of the night was that they were alone and went to bed at 10 and woke up at 8. They have no alibi witnesses for that time. One of their witnesses was their son who had a criminal history who also went home by himself and drank scotch before bed. |
Did you see the tv special about him. He made a shrine to Jon Benet and even had Monopoly money that he had attached her face on. |
Welp, using modern technology, it's pretty clear what was said on the 911 call after Patsy thought she hung up.
Why did John say: "We're not speaking to you"? That's a weird thing to say as a parent of an apparent kidnap victim. Also, no way in hell I am hanging up the emergency call until the police arrive if I'm "the" mom. (Weird that she won't say "her" mom or "Jonbenet's" mom.) |
That totally makes sense. Bet that lots of crazies did similar. Like that Karr guy. |