Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.
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Anonymous wrote:People talk about Route 1 traffic, but the center of population in NoVa is Fairfax & Loudoun Counties. Those fans will have to drive on Little River Turnpike, or Route 7/King St. to get to the facilities. Or take the Orange/Silver Lines to Rosslyn and change trains. Really?


Unless one lives in Crystal City, Pentagon City or Del Ray, the site is basically inaccessible for everyone else by adding at least an hour of total travel time as compare to getting to Gallery Place.


Really? DC is closer to Mt Vernon than Alexandria is? Huh, TIL.


how many people in Mt Vernon go to the games? What percentage?

hint: not very many. MOST of the patrons for the Caps and Wizards are coming from DC and MD. So Ted is putting a huge burden on those fans to continue to come to the games


You don't even know what you are talking about. A bunch of the actual Caps live in Old Town.


Not they don’t. Majority of them live in Arlington/McLean/Great Falls. Holtby might be back there but then again he’s a former Cap now

Nope at one point 3 lived in old town. I don't believe any currently live there. Holtby sold his house and moved

Wrong.


Ok you believe what you want
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.

The ball (and puck) are in Virginia’s hands now. Also, what are the District residents willing to give up to keep the teams, especially with a very bleak economic outlook?
Frankly, I feel Leonsis is done with DC and if the VA deal fails to materialize he will start shopping the teams around. Vegas and Seattle would be willing to pay big bucks for an NBA team and I’ve read Atlanta is interested in yes, another NHL franchise.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.

The ball (and puck) are in Virginia’s hands now. Also, what are the District residents willing to give up to keep the teams, especially with a very bleak economic outlook?
Frankly, I feel Leonsis is done with DC and if the VA deal fails to materialize he will start shopping the teams around. Vegas and Seattle would be willing to pay big bucks for an NBA team and I’ve read Atlanta is interested in yes, another NHL franchise.


Yes and it’s well known that Montreal desperately wants an NBA team, and also its Expos back. It’s not improbable that DC could be left without any pro sports teams at all.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.

The ball (and puck) are in Virginia’s hands now. Also, what are the District residents willing to give up to keep the teams, especially with a very bleak economic outlook?
Frankly, I feel Leonsis is done with DC and if the VA deal fails to materialize he will start shopping the teams around. Vegas and Seattle would be willing to pay big bucks for an NBA team and I’ve read Atlanta is interested in yes, another NHL franchise.


Yes and it’s well known that Montreal desperately wants an NBA team, and also its Expos back. It’s not improbable that DC could be left without any pro sports teams at all.


There's no way the NBA would allow a team in Montreal after what happened in Vancouver. There are already plans to expand in Vegas and Seattle, bringing the league to 32 teams. Now, the Wizards could move to Seattle and the DMV gets a new expansion team (like the Browns/Ravens in the NFL), but I don't see why anyone would want that.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.

The ball (and puck) are in Virginia’s hands now. Also, what are the District residents willing to give up to keep the teams, especially with a very bleak economic outlook?
Frankly, I feel Leonsis is done with DC and if the VA deal fails to materialize he will start shopping the teams around. Vegas and Seattle would be willing to pay big bucks for an NBA team and I’ve read Atlanta is interested in yes, another NHL franchise.


Yes and it’s well known that Montreal desperately wants an NBA team, and also its Expos back. It’s not improbable that DC could be left without any pro sports teams at all.

The Nats are probably fine (although Nashville comes up every so often as a possible relocation site). The Commanders will most likely stay in Maryland or go to Northern Virginia as I don’t think most DC residents want the NFL to play at a potential RFK 2. United and the Spirit definitely will stay; the Mystics (most likely) will stay.
NBA-G league team will stay. If the Caps do leave, I’m sure an AHL franchise can be found.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


The city has offered $500M with unanimous support of the council. The city doesn't have 70 acres to offer Ted as a counter to Virginia.

I am not sure what more you want them to do.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.


That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.


That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.


hard to understand how Alexandria would be on board with the potential liability involved, unless the politician have already been paid off. If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.
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Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


The city has offered $500M with unanimous support of the council. The city doesn't have 70 acres to offer Ted as a counter to Virginia.

I am not sure what more you want them to do.


To start, pass the legislation, and have it signed. Not talk about it. Then, look for other features to retain the teams. Ted wants office space, so DC should find an office building near Capital One Arena. Be creative on practice space. Maybe, add hockey to or nearby the Wizards/Mystics current practice facilities. But be aggressive.







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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


Or they can sit back and let the Virginia House of Delegates reject a bad deal, and maybe have a staffer take Teddy’s call when he comes crawling back.


That is not likley if Alexandria is on board.


hard to understand how Alexandria would be on board with the potential liability involved, unless the politician have already been paid off. If I were an Alexandria taxpayer, I would be furious over this.


Alexandria tax payers are fine as northern VA has a great economic outlook. DC residents should worry about their crime wave and loss of business. DC is losing federal agencies, retail, and now pro sports.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.

The ball (and puck) are in Virginia’s hands now. Also, what are the District residents willing to give up to keep the teams, especially with a very bleak economic outlook?
Frankly, I feel Leonsis is done with DC and if the VA deal fails to materialize he will start shopping the teams around. Vegas and Seattle would be willing to pay big bucks for an NBA team and I’ve read Atlanta is interested in yes, another NHL franchise.


Yes and it’s well known that Montreal desperately wants an NBA team, and also its Expos back. It’s not improbable that DC could be left without any pro sports teams at all.


Montreal wants the Expos back? Hardly anybody went to their games before they left!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


The city has offered $500M with unanimous support of the council. The city doesn't have 70 acres to offer Ted as a counter to Virginia.

I am not sure what more you want them to do.


To start, pass the legislation, and have it signed. Not talk about it. Then, look for other features to retain the teams. Ted wants office space, so DC should find an office building near Capital One Arena. Be creative on practice space. Maybe, add hockey to or nearby the Wizards/Mystics current practice facilities. But be aggressive.



There is plenty of commercial real estate available near the arena. That isn't what Ted wants. He wants "a complex" that he owns and controls, that is more than an arena and front offices. he wants what Virginia has promised. the council passing the 500 million dollar bond bill won't sway the deal, because DC cannot offer what Ted wants.

The question is, can virginia politics deliver? I don't see where democrats in the assembly are interested in subsidizing billionaires, and there certainly isn't any good will between Youngkin and the Assembly. And...I am not sure Alexandria is going to want to be on the hook for 9 figures of bond liability.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This deal is not done, so DC has some hope. Lets pressure the Mayor and DC Council to move aggressively and quickly. Both are important.


The city has offered $500M with unanimous support of the council. The city doesn't have 70 acres to offer Ted as a counter to Virginia.

I am not sure what more you want them to do.


To start, pass the legislation, and have it signed. Not talk about it. Then, look for other features to retain the teams. Ted wants office space, so DC should find an office building near Capital One Arena. Be creative on practice space. Maybe, add hockey to or nearby the Wizards/Mystics current practice facilities. But be aggressive.



There is plenty of commercial real estate available near the arena. That isn't what Ted wants. He wants "a complex" that he owns and controls, that is more than an arena and front offices. he wants what Virginia has promised. the council passing the 500 million dollar bond bill won't sway the deal, because DC cannot offer what Ted wants.

The question is, can virginia politics deliver? I don't see where democrats in the assembly are interested in subsidizing billionaires, and there certainly isn't any good will between Youngkin and the Assembly. And...I am not sure Alexandria is going to want to be on the hook for 9 figures of bond liability.


Alexandria has bigger problems. Like it’s crap schools. Same reason DC shouldn’t cave to Ted. Use the money for more cops. And schools.
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