Race in college admissions is back in front of the Supreme Court Oral Argument on Oct. 31 (Monday)
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Anonymous
Only if you're using quotas |
Anonymous
How do you know that others are not studying and working hard? And why do you get to tell a private institution how to design their admission standards? No one is entitled to admission to Harvard. They pick you, not the other way around. Get over yourself and your entitlements. |
Anonymous
Many people study and work hard and get into elite schools. Then other people get mad, take their SAT score and create lawsuits to say those people did not belong in an elite college based solely on their SAT score. Why do these people assume they should get the seat instead? |
Anonymous
Amen |
Anonymous
That is true but... 6% of harvard is black so 6% of 2000 is 120, that means that 120/6000 are accepted ... that means 2% of black applicant are accepted. LOL, how is this even part of a lawsuit. Do you have the other numbers |
Anonymous
Why do you assume that non-whites and non-Asians don’t work hard? Is it because of your biased and racist beliefs? |
Anonymous
Why do you assume 100% matriculation? Harvard itself says that the yield is lower than other races https://www.jbhe.com/2021/04/blacks-make-up-18-percent-of-admitted-students-at-harvard-university/ |
Anonymous
+1 Sour grapes |
Anonymous
Im not the PP but my viewpoint isnt binary. My viewpoint is that if you say Asian Americans are being discriminated against for race because they score better than their non-Asian counterparts I am interested to see whether only the top X% of Asian Americans are accepted and how that might change the viewpoint of us vs them. I 100% do not believe that only the best rated Asian Americans got accepted. It seems to me that no one seems to be willing to consider that there are underqualified (their terms not mine) Asian Americans who got accepted when compared to other Asian American accepted students. What seems to be inferred is that Asians score the best and therefore, only other students who score more than them should get accepted. You are actually re-emphasizing the model minority myth. There is no discussion of legacy, athletics, etc. because in theory, those contribute something else to the campus like money or prestige, etc. I guess? |
Anonymous
Well that is true, so are acceptance rates high because matriculation is so low? Complicated. |
Anonymous
Why do you think that having the same types of information for each category of interest — in order to make and accurately understand comparisons between those categories is meaningful “only if you’re using quotas”? |
Anonymous
The admission percentage can be skewed if there are very few applicants, but once you get past that point, the only reason that one group would have demonstrably higher rates of admission is if the school is trying to balance the class and the admissions team had quotas that they knew they had to hit. As of today, it's totally legal to want a diverse class and apply different admissions standards to get there, but it will likely be illegal when this decision issues. |
Anonymous
DP It IS complicated. That’s one of the things that’s unfortunate about reducing admission to test scores. What’s even more complicated is that it’s falsely assuming that test scores universally correlate positively with success in college. |
Anonymous
1. it's not reducing it to test scores. It's reducing the applications to the same categories that Harvard did and then realizing that the most subjective category is where Asian American applicants were getting docked and then digging deeper and realizing that those same applicants were doing well on the verifiable components of that category (i.e. great alumni scores) . 2. GPA + Test scores absolutely correlates positively with success in college (defined as first year GPA and second year persistence). |
Anonymous
No because it looks some people are demanding free seats. |