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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]WTF slavery has to do with admission to colleges for kids born in the 21st century. [/quote] I know you wouldn't know. Enjoy your ignorance.[/quote] Yea right some kids born in 2005 should be sacrificed for your kids because of slavery. [/quote] [b]Racial policies in college admission have nothing to do with slavery, reparations or guilt[/b]. Racial policies in college admissions exist so colleges can build the classes THEY WANT based on criteria THEY SELECT. End period. Which they are free to do with any criteria as long as they don't break the law. And yes that means they can take an athlete with lower SAT scores, or a talented singer, or a civic leader, or the son of a donor, or yes, someone of an under-represented race. Don't take my word for it. Ask one college administrator, then another. Just f-king ask them why they have the policy. They'll tell you, in detail. [b]But you won't ask them, because you don't want the answer[/b]. [b]All races benefit from this policy where they are under-represented[/b]. This includes asians at top LACs and whites at Howard. You people don't know what you are talking about. You don't understand and you don't want to. You just want to talk about the lucky minorities and how they are oppressing you. It is pathetic.[/quote] These points remain mostly ignored because they do not comport with embraced narratives.[/quote] Asians don't want free points at any school. They just want fair and square competition. [/quote] Clearly your definition of "fair and square" competition does not align with the standards Harvard uses. Are Harvard's standards unfair because they don't give you the outcome you desire? [/quote] Harvard standard is unfair because it discriminates based on race. Do I have to tell you this after 70 some pages? [/quote] 70 pages later I have yet to see the evidence of discrimination. [/quote] [img]https://i.imgur.com/ETWS6Qb_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium[/img] [/quote] As any statistician will tell you, %s can be deceiving. What is the breakdown/number of applicants? What is the breakdown/number of admittees? [/quote] +1 without raw numbers the chart is meaningless. If 40000 White people applied and only 1000 AA that’s meaningful , if it’s opposite well that would be wild[/quote] Why does it matter? Is it ok to subject applicants to different standard based on race if few applicants of a certain race apply? [/quote] Yes it matters. 60000 applicants, if 59000 are white and 1 is other and the 1 is accepted they have 100% acceptance rate vs 3% acceptance … looks pretty bad and if that 1 is not accepted it’s looks like 0% acceptance. They only take 2000 people so % not accepted will be large if the # applied is high.[/quote] So if it's hypothetically far more skewed than it actually is, then the numbers matter in your hypothetical. Great [/quote] No. You need the numbers, the % is literally meaningless.[/quote] As long as the numbers are large enough, you don't need specifics. In this case, Harvard gets about 6,000 black applicants a year [/quote] And that’s only meaningful if you ALSO know how many applicants Harvard gets in the other categories. [/quote] Only if you're using quotas [/quote]
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