Red/Yellow Card for Youth Players

[Anonymous]

When do the leagues that travel clubs play in around the DMV start to more consistently issue red and yellow cards to players for violent conduct?

While I certainly understand a particular level of forgiveness at the younger ages, it seems there are certain players even in the U10 top teams in the area who do things on the field that flat-out deserve cards, including at times, red cards. I have seen a child wrap arms around an opposing player and throw them to the ground, then once on the ground, fully swing to smack the player. Still, no red card... not even a yellow. At what point does this behavior stop being ignored?

There are other examples, like when a player on the opposing team is onsides and through on goal, before the last defender catches up from behind and literally jumps on the players back, wrapping their arms around the player and dragging them down to the ground. Still, no red card (not even a yellow in that instance). It seems this type of play will only continue (and potentially get worse) unless there are greater penalties for such behavior.

[Anonymous]

high school age

[Anonymous]

It's always 100% the referee's discretion and decision. Parents always think it's too violent and coaches always think the other team/other player/other coach is at fault

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When do the leagues that travel clubs play in around the DMV start to more consistently issue red and yellow cards to players for violent conduct?

While I certainly understand a particular level of forgiveness at the younger ages, it seems there are certain players even in the U10 top teams in the area who do things on the field that flat-out deserve cards, including at times, red cards. I have seen a child wrap arms around an opposing player and throw them to the ground, then once on the ground, fully swing to smack the player. Still, no red card... not even a yellow. At what point does this behavior stop being ignored?

There are other examples, like when a player on the opposing team is onsides and through on goal, before the last defender catches up from behind and literally jumps on the players back, wrapping their arms around the player and dragging them down to the ground. Still, no red card (not even a yellow in that instance). It seems this type of play will only continue (and potentially get worse) unless there are greater penalties for such behavior.

I don’t believe for a second that either of your examples are accurate, but in general, at younger ages, the coaches should be dealing with this, not the refs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do the leagues that travel clubs play in around the DMV start to more consistently issue red and yellow cards to players for violent conduct?

While I certainly understand a particular level of forgiveness at the younger ages, it seems there are certain players even in the U10 top teams in the area who do things on the field that flat-out deserve cards, including at times, red cards. I have seen a child wrap arms around an opposing player and throw them to the ground, then once on the ground, fully swing to smack the player. Still, no red card... not even a yellow. At what point does this behavior stop being ignored?

There are other examples, like when a player on the opposing team is onsides and through on goal, before the last defender catches up from behind and literally jumps on the players back, wrapping their arms around the player and dragging them down to the ground. Still, no red card (not even a yellow in that instance). It seems this type of play will only continue (and potentially get worse) unless there are greater penalties for such behavior.

I don’t believe for a second that either of your examples are accurate, but in general, at younger ages, the coaches should be dealing with this, not the refs.

Frankly, whether or not you believe it matters little to me. I have the Veo recordings to prove it, haha. While I understand the instinct behind thinking that coaches should handle this, lets face it... many will not. Particularly when the offending player is a good player that they want to have on the field so they can win. Also considering that in our pay-to-play system, and with parents that are all-too-willing to complain about their little angel being benched for bad behavior, few coaches have the stomach to deal with the players that do these things. Therefore, who but the refs can do it?

[Anonymous]

This one is easy. Be a part of the solution and become a ref.

https://www.vadcsoccerref.com/

https://www.marylandreferees.com/msr2/

[Anonymous]

One thing that pisses me off is the excessive sliding tackle that starts at u10. Players on the ground left and right,.parents cheering, ankles at risk.. horrible. Refs usually not experienced enough to deal with. Some coaches think is cool.

[Anonymous]

Agree in u10 it should be stopped by coaches.

[Anonymous]

I think there is so much sliding because all the boys play so much fifa on x box and playstation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:high school age

Isn’t it kinda late to be enforcing that? Does anyone know a 9 year old violent slide-tackling twat who made a turnaround at 14 once they got red-carded “for real”?

[Anonymous]

This thread is full of non-soccer people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing that pisses me off is the excessive sliding tackle that starts at u10. Players on the ground left and right,.parents cheering, ankles at risk.. horrible. Refs usually not experienced enough to deal with. Some coaches think is cool.

Textbook. Little boys go crazy with this, the coaches don't seem to care much in practice. I have a girls who practices with the boys often, except she gets taken out at practice by the slide tacklers... they just let it go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of non-soccer people

I can only assume that you are suggesting that anyone who doesn't want to see violent conduct from 10 year-olds is a "non-soccer" person... but, I am a soccer person. Have played for 29 years... I am all for slide tackling. I am not for some of the ridiculously violent and dirty conduct I have already witnessed at the U10B level. Violent U10 players will become violent teenagers, and their dirty play will then prematurely end the playing days for some poor kids. You can play physically, you can play tough, and you can do it without being an ass. Like any other fundamental element of the game, proper tackling and sportsmanship should be taught from the beginning. Inevitably, coaches will fail to police their own players as they have a stake in ignoring such conduct at times. Parents and coaches are also, at times, the problem, as they are the ones teaching the children to play that way. That leaves referees. The incentives are fixed and aligned to discourage this type of behavior if the referees appropriately penalize those who engage in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of non-soccer people

OMG are you the dad I overheard telling his violently-fouling kid after the second penalty kick “next time take them down OUTSIDE the box”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is full of non-soccer people

I can only assume that you are suggesting that anyone who doesn't want to see violent conduct from 10 year-olds is a "non-soccer" person... but, I am a soccer person. Have played for 29 years... I am all for slide tackling. I am not for some of the ridiculously violent and dirty conduct I have already witnessed at the U10B level. Violent U10 players will become violent teenagers, and their dirty play will then prematurely end the playing days for some poor kids. You can play physically, you can play tough, and you can do it without being an ass. Like any other fundamental element of the game, proper tackling and sportsmanship should be taught from the beginning. Inevitably, coaches will fail to police their own players as they have a stake in ignoring such conduct at times. Parents and coaches are also, at times, the problem, as they are the ones teaching the children to play that way. That leaves referees. The incentives are fixed and aligned to discourage this type of behavior if the referees appropriately penalize those who engage in it.

Clearly did not play at any level that was meaningfully different from rec those 29 years