Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[

The problem is it's hardly objective when over half the kids taking the test already saw the answers because their parents spent thousands on prep. This isn't hard to grasp.

Yes you nailed but some people are in a hard denial and clinging to thei privilege they have over the less wealthy schools. They are incapable of understanding even simple truths.

You guys....wow. We've looked and can't find the references that you claim are "in the news" and "on the record". You all seem to be quoting each other, and representing that as fact. Perhaps supply a link or a reference? Nope, you can't do it, because all you have is hearsay. Gaslighting anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[

The problem is it's hardly objective when over half the kids taking the test already saw the answers because their parents spent thousands on prep. This isn't hard to grasp.

Yes you nailed but some people are in a hard denial and clinging to thei privilege they have over the less wealthy schools. They are incapable of understanding even simple truths.

Till you get some facts, don't post any lame excuses or accusations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[

The problem is it's hardly objective when over half the kids taking the test already saw the answers because their parents spent thousands on prep. This isn't hard to grasp.

Yes you nailed but some people are in a hard denial and clinging to thei privilege they have over the less wealthy schools. They are incapable of understanding even simple truths.

Till you get some facts, don't post any lame excuses or accusations.

My kids felt that the Curie classes helped them immeasurably so I think there may more truth to this than you're willing to admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[

The problem is it's hardly objective when over half the kids taking the test already saw the answers because their parents spent thousands on prep. This isn't hard to grasp.

Yes you nailed but some people are in a hard denial and clinging to thei privilege they have over the less wealthy schools. They are incapable of understanding even simple truths.

Till you get some facts, don't post any lame excuses or accusations.

My kids felt that the Curie classes helped them immeasurably so I think there may more truth to this than you're willing to admit.

Is this the best you can do? Good grief. Do you realize that you're slandering a business provider that you patronize?

Most of the classes, including the ones that my daughter took, provide sample questions galore. And, certainly, that familiarity with typical question content and format will help "immeasurably". It's called practice. If your kids had the answers, then man up and say so. But you won't, because they didn't. Again, more questionable claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My kids felt that the Curie classes helped them immeasurably so I think there may more truth to this than you're willing to admit.

Is this the best you can do? Good grief. Do you realize that you're slandering a business provider that you patronize?

Most of the classes, including the ones that my daughter took, provide sample questions galore. And, certainly, that familiarity with typical question content and format will help "immeasurably". It's called practice. If your kids had the answers, then man up and say so. But you won't, because they didn't. Again, more questionable claims.

+1. If the pro reform posters stuck with asserting that poor kids are at a huge disadvantage because they can't afford Curie, Sunshine Academy, AoPS, RSM, private tutoring, and so on, there is some validity in that argument. While the upper middle class kids are objectively more advanced, one could argue that poor kids didn't have the same opportunity to be equally advanced.

Instead, they're claiming that most of the kids admitted to TJ basically cheated and were flat out given the correct answers to the test. This argument is ludicrous without evidence to back it up. So, since many people (actually, probably just one person sock puppeting) keep failing to provide any evidence that most kids got into TJ because they were given the answers to the test, those people should instead try to stick with the first argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My kids felt that the Curie classes helped them immeasurably so I think there may more truth to this than you're willing to admit.

Is this the best you can do? Good grief. Do you realize that you're slandering a business provider that you patronize?

Most of the classes, including the ones that my daughter took, provide sample questions galore. And, certainly, that familiarity with typical question content and format will help "immeasurably". It's called practice. If your kids had the answers, then man up and say so. But you won't, because they didn't. Again, more questionable claims.

+1. If the pro reform posters stuck with asserting that poor kids are at a huge disadvantage because they can't afford Curie, Sunshine Academy, AoPS, RSM, private tutoring, and so on, there is some validity in that argument. While the upper middle class kids are objectively more advanced, one could argue that poor kids didn't have the same opportunity to be equally advanced.

Instead, they're claiming that most of the kids admitted to TJ basically cheated and were flat out given the correct answers to the test. This argument is ludicrous without evidence to back it up. So, since many people (actually, probably just one person sock puppeting) keep failing to provide any evidence that most kids got into TJ because they were given the answers to the test, those people should instead try to stick with the first argument.

I know. How dare they! It was only 30% of the kids who got the answers from Curie!.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My kids felt that the Curie classes helped them immeasurably so I think there may more truth to this than you're willing to admit.

Is this the best you can do? Good grief. Do you realize that you're slandering a business provider that you patronize?

Most of the classes, including the ones that my daughter took, provide sample questions galore. And, certainly, that familiarity with typical question content and format will help "immeasurably". It's called practice. If your kids had the answers, then man up and say so. But you won't, because they didn't. Again, more questionable claims.

+1. If the pro reform posters stuck with asserting that poor kids are at a huge disadvantage because they can't afford Curie, Sunshine Academy, AoPS, RSM, private tutoring, and so on, there is some validity in that argument. While the upper middle class kids are objectively more advanced, one could argue that poor kids didn't have the same opportunity to be equally advanced.

Instead, they're claiming that most of the kids admitted to TJ basically cheated and were flat out given the correct answers to the test. This argument is ludicrous without evidence to back it up. So, since many people (actually, probably just one person sock puppeting) keep failing to provide any evidence that most kids got into TJ because they were given the answers to the test, those people should instead try to stick with the first argument.

I know. How dare they! It was only 30% of the kids who got the answers from Curie!.

I'd be surprised if anyone had the actual test answers but there is no doubt that these places provide the students who attend them with a clear advantage otherwise people wouldn't pay thousands of dollars to go there. This is really unfair to people who aren't aware they need to do this in order to compete with those who do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My kids felt that the Curie classes helped them immeasurably so I think there may more truth to this than you're willing to admit.

Is this the best you can do? Good grief. Do you realize that you're slandering a business provider that you patronize?

Most of the classes, including the ones that my daughter took, provide sample questions galore. And, certainly, that familiarity with typical question content and format will help "immeasurably". It's called practice. If your kids had the answers, then man up and say so. But you won't, because they didn't. Again, more questionable claims.

+1. If the pro reform posters stuck with asserting that poor kids are at a huge disadvantage because they can't afford Curie, Sunshine Academy, AoPS, RSM, private tutoring, and so on, there is some validity in that argument. While the upper middle class kids are objectively more advanced, one could argue that poor kids didn't have the same opportunity to be equally advanced.

Instead, they're claiming that most of the kids admitted to TJ basically cheated and were flat out given the correct answers to the test. This argument is ludicrous without evidence to back it up. So, since many people (actually, probably just one person sock puppeting) keep failing to provide any evidence that most kids got into TJ because they were given the answers to the test, those people should instead try to stick with the first argument.

I know. How dare they! It was only 30% of the kids who got the answers from Curie!.

Ugh. Multiple requests for some shred of proof of this claim, and ... Crickets. Instead, more assertions. Makes me wonder about the motivations pf some folks... Oops, I forgot: wokeness is the religion of the left...

[Anonymous]

One of the prep centers posted on Facebook the names of their students that were admitted. This made up more than 30% of that year's entering class. This is an undisputed fact. These places give their students a huge advantage of over those who do not go there. This is clear that in 2020 people who do not pay for prep have significantly less chance of being admitted. This gives wealthy families a large advantage over everyone else. I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work. The new admission criteria is an improvement over the old one but it's just a start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the prep centers posted on Facebook the names of their students that were admitted. This made up more than 30% of that year's entering class. This is an undisputed fact. These places give their students a huge advantage of over those who do not go there. This is clear that in 2020 people who do not pay for prep have significantly less chance of being admitted. This gives wealthy families a large advantage over everyone else. I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work. The new admission criteria is an improvement over the old one but it's just a start.

No doubt that preparation via one of the many centers provides an advantage. However, the updated admission criteria does little to address this. Wouldn't it have been nice if, as others have noted, FCPS established a pipeline with additional resources for middle schools so that their students are better prepared and more competitive? Alas, that seems to be too much work.

No, the focus of FCPS seems to be on equity, which boils down to race. And the shortest path to this is to remove objective measures (leaving a few in to pass the smell test), so that TJ admissions "look like" the county. If unprepared kids flame out, or if deserving kids are left out, oh well. Diversity is our strength!

Your contention, "I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work" is an argument for no admission criteria, which defeats the purpose of having a school like TJ. Make that argument if you will, but it's an argument for the lowest common denominator.

Ultimately, many of the arguments against the preppers seem to be, "It's not fair!". To which I reply, correct, life is not fair, a fact that many folks seem to not understand. FWIW, my child was waitlisted and ultimately did not get accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the prep centers posted on Facebook the names of their students that were admitted. This made up more than 30% of that year's entering class. This is an undisputed fact. These places give their students a huge advantage of over those who do not go there. This is clear that in 2020 people who do not pay for prep have significantly less chance of being admitted. This gives wealthy families a large advantage over everyone else. I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work. The new admission criteria is an improvement over the old one but it's just a start.

No doubt that preparation via one of the many centers provides an advantage. However, the updated admission criteria does little to address this. Wouldn't it have been nice if, as others have noted, FCPS established a pipeline with additional resources for middle schools so that their students are better prepared and more competitive? Alas, that seems to be too much work.

No, the focus of FCPS seems to be on equity, which boils down to race. And the shortest path to this is to remove objective measures (leaving a few in to pass the smell test), so that TJ admissions "look like" the county. If unprepared kids flame out, or if deserving kids are left out, oh well. Diversity is our strength!

Your contention, "I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work" is an argument for no admission criteria, which defeats the purpose of having a school like TJ. Make that argument if you will, but it's an argument for the lowest common denominator.

Ultimately, many of the arguments against the preppers seem to be, "It's not fair!". To which I reply, correct, life is not fair, a fact that many folks seem to not understand. FWIW, my child was waitlisted and ultimately did not get accepted.

It seems like the updated criteria does this because it helps the many gifted students at less affluent schools to also compete on a more level playing field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the prep centers posted on Facebook the names of their students that were admitted. This made up more than 30% of that year's entering class. This is an undisputed fact. These places give their students a huge advantage of over those who do not go there. This is clear that in 2020 people who do not pay for prep have significantly less chance of being admitted. This gives wealthy families a large advantage over everyone else. I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work. The new admission criteria is an improvement over the old one but it's just a start.

No doubt that preparation via one of the many centers provides an advantage. However, the updated admission criteria does little to address this. Wouldn't it have been nice if, as others have noted, FCPS established a pipeline with additional resources for middle schools so that their students are better prepared and more competitive? Alas, that seems to be too much work.

No, the focus of FCPS seems to be on equity, which boils down to race. And the shortest path to this is to remove objective measures (leaving a few in to pass the smell test), so that TJ admissions "look like" the county. If unprepared kids flame out, or if deserving kids are left out, oh well. Diversity is our strength!

Your contention, "I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work" is an argument for no admission criteria, which defeats the purpose of having a school like TJ. Make that argument if you will, but it's an argument for the lowest common denominator.

Ultimately, many of the arguments against the preppers seem to be, "It's not fair!". To which I reply, correct, life is not fair, a fact that many folks seem to not understand. FWIW, my child was waitlisted and ultimately did not get accepted.

It seems like the updated criteria does this because it helps the many gifted students at less affluent schools to also compete on a more level playing field.

Agree a test where 90% of the students that are successful are so because they paid for prep classes is hardly objective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the prep centers posted on Facebook the names of their students that were admitted. This made up more than 30% of that year's entering class. This is an undisputed fact. These places give their students a huge advantage of over those who do not go there. This is clear that in 2020 people who do not pay for prep have significantly less chance of being admitted. This gives wealthy families a large advantage over everyone else. I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work. The new admission criteria is an improvement over the old one but it's just a start.

No doubt that preparation via one of the many centers provides an advantage. However, the updated admission criteria does little to address this. Wouldn't it have been nice if, as others have noted, FCPS established a pipeline with additional resources for middle schools so that their students are better prepared and more competitive? Alas, that seems to be too much work.

No, the focus of FCPS seems to be on equity, which boils down to race. And the shortest path to this is to remove objective measures (leaving a few in to pass the smell test), so that TJ admissions "look like" the county. If unprepared kids flame out, or if deserving kids are left out, oh well. Diversity is our strength!

Your contention, "I don't think that's how public schools are supposed to work" is an argument for no admission criteria, which defeats the purpose of having a school like TJ. Make that argument if you will, but it's an argument for the lowest common denominator.

Ultimately, many of the arguments against the preppers seem to be, "It's not fair!". To which I reply, correct, life is not fair, a fact that many folks seem to not understand. FWIW, my child was waitlisted and ultimately did not get accepted.

It seems like the updated criteria does this because it helps the many gifted students at less affluent schools to also compete on a more level playing field.

Agree a test where 90% of the students that are successful are so because they paid for prep classes is hardly objective.

This is your assertion, oft repeated and dismissive of the level of effort that extends across years of weekend and summer school. I'd argue that the 90% is/are successful because of commitment and a prioritization of education above all else, a trait that is a key requirement for success at TJ. But, by all means, let's use a lottery and pseudo-objective measures to level the playing field.

[Anonymous]

It. Does. Not. Matter. Anymore.

TJ isn't going to be any better than Oakton, McLean, Chantilly, or Langley. It may not even be as good as those schools in a few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It. Does. Not. Matter. Anymore.

TJ isn't going to be any better than Oakton, McLean, Chantilly, or Langley. It may not even be as good as those schools in a few years.

I know and agree. I argue in hopes of swaying the undecided for the future. But you're correct. I'm going to put down the hammer and quit smashing my fingers when I engage these folks. I'm out...