Upper middle class people- why don’t you want your kids to live a life of leisure?

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Anonymous wrote:I know several parents who have become very successful and wanted their kids to have it easier than they did. One family has four kids. Only one is successful, two live off of their parents, one OD-ed. Another: Three kids, two live off of parents, one OD-ed. Another: three kids, none work, one died in 20s from crazy accident. Another: two kids, one successful working for the dad, the other dead from a crazy accident. I literally could list more.

Kids have to be taught a work ethic and responsibility, and they need to believe they can succeed and need too.

The deaths are very tragic. If you can answer this without identifying the families, were the accidents related to their behavior, or could they have happened to anyone?

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A life of leisure deprives a person of the drive to learn, grow, strive, accomplish, see what they are capable of. Look at all the totally messed up celebrity kids.

Now ensuring my kids' retirement some day, ability to go to college, get an advanced degree, buy a mortgage free house... those are things I can get behind.

Money can be a blessing or a curse depending on how it's given and how it's used.

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Anonymous wrote:UMC kids are not rich. Rich kids can be lazy. The reason you are upper middle class is because you do not have generational wealth.

DH is a specialized surgeon and earns ~$1.5m. I always tell our kids they have to work hard because we are UMC. We can provide them a good childhood and pay for their college and education but they have to work to support themselves and provide a good life for their future families.

We will be able to pay for college, grad school, wedding and a down payment on their house. Maybe their kids’ educations. They will not be trust fund babies who can afford not to work.

You are spoiling them. They will do nothing with their lives.

DP. This is very rude, and how do you know that? PP didn't say that they would pay for everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting you describe medical training as abusive. Do you think you are a martyr or something?

It is well known that medical training has insane hours requirements. Not uncommon to work over 100 hour weeks constantly with no break. A recent study found that pregnant residents more likely to have miscarriages and bad birth outcomes due to the hour. Most people know this.

So what? There are plenty of lower grade professions who work, long hard hours. Think of the roofers
working atop buildings (where floor temps reach 140f) from 6am to 8 pm to finish the job, before the
thunderstorms rain down. Think of firemen with heavy suits and concrete construction workers. Think of
Field military personnel. I’m an MD
BTW, my Med school training and 5 years as resident were a walk in the park.

You weren't sleep-deprived? Which specialty, if you don't mind me asking?

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I think all upper class and wealthy Democrats need to donate 100% of their remaining wealth to the government since they always seem to advocate for higher taxes for the rich but never seem to actually implement it.

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They didn’t earn the life of leisure, I did. I want my kids to work just as hard as I did.

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Anonymous wrote:Well yeah, UMC kids go into finance and VC and such which is much more chill than medicine. Only immigrants and LMC go into medicine.

cite? I used to work in an administrative role at a medical school, just for a year and a half, and I saw the opposite. in fact one of the big efforts when I was there was to get more income diversity because it was almost overwhelmingly kids from well-off backgrounds at our school. And I did a little research as I was contributing to some of these efforts and that seemed to be pretty consistent across medical schools.

UMC have money to put their kids through med school or other high priced schools plus UMC kids can focus solely on school work and residency without having to get another job to support themselves.

Scholarships don’t cover everything


Kids from UMC have all the advantages, tutors from k-12, higher test scores, less stress from home life… money




Black and brown kids are don’t have these privileges

Unless they are UMC black and brown kids. UMC and black/brown are not mutually exclusive.

Yes seriously, some of these race-focused liberals are part of the problem with all their stereotypes.

- signed a brown person with multiple doctor friends who are doing just fine, thanks

The talking points of the Democrats these days seems to be to set up black and brown students to think that they cannot succeed and should not even try. Just look at what Oregon is doing to erase coefficiency in math in English in order to graduate from high school.

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Anonymous wrote:UMC kids are not rich. Rich kids can be lazy. The reason you are upper middle class is because you do not have generational wealth.

DH is a specialized surgeon and earns ~$1.5m. I always tell our kids they have to work hard because we are UMC. We can provide them a good childhood and pay for their college and education but they have to work to support themselves and provide a good life for their future families.

We will be able to pay for college, grad school, wedding and a down payment on their house. Maybe their kids’ educations. They will not be trust fund babies who can afford not to work.

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I believe it. If you do t want your kids to have to work a day in their lives, you need to be able to give them 10-20 million in their twenties.

consistently earning 1.5 a year should put you in a position to do that if you choose to (unless you are also spending 1.5 a year)

Unless buying and completely tanks the economy. I am on track to die with over 50 million dollars. My 19-year-old college daughter works at the supermarket and volunteered to come in 2 hours earlier because they needed the help. I instilled work ethic no matter great family wealth or no wealth. I wish Democrats would instill this in the black communities instead of teaching them to behave like the victim.