Last minute plan B if schools don’t open?

[Anonymous]

Google it. Pediatric cases spiking across the US. Kids who are really sick and hospitalized.

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

Yeah, why aren’t public health officials drawing parallels to a disease THAT IS ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE SEVERE TO KIDS????? Do you geniuses know how decimal places work? Or do your tiny lizard brains just lump together all numbers less than 1 as the same?

[Anonymous]

I don't have a plan b. I didn't really have one last year, either. It is a real mark of privilege to just be able to pull a backup education and childcare option out of your back pocket at the last minute.

And that's why, if they close schools again (I mean widespread closures, not limited quarantines which I expect at this point), my Plan B is to protest the hell out of it. The only other real alternative for my family would be to move, but obviously that's not an easy proposition for us or we would have done it already. But at this point, I have less to lose by protesting and putting up a big fight than doing anything else. I already know what a year of DL means for my kid and our family, what it means for me, personally. It's not like last year when I thought I could tough it out, or I believed we were doing something important to help others (ha!). Now I know what it is.

So Plan B is showing up at Central Office every day with a megaphone until they do something about this.

[Anonymous]

Looking to move to GA or FL for the year.

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

Yeah, why aren’t public health officials drawing parallels to a disease THAT IS ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE SEVERE TO KIDS????? Do you geniuses know how decimal places work? Or do your tiny lizard brains just lump together all numbers less than 1 as the same?

Not orders of magnitude, actually: https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

Death rate from polio is higher (.05% vs. 0% to .03%, depending state), but not by orders of magnitude. There’s no equivalent data point for long-term effects for COVID-19 (since we’re still pretty early in the game), but the hospitalization rate was as high as 1.9% in some states. And this article suggests that long COVID could be a thing in kids, too: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01935-7.

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

Yeah, why aren’t public health officials drawing parallels to a disease THAT IS ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE SEVERE TO KIDS????? Do you geniuses know how decimal places work? Or do your tiny lizard brains just lump together all numbers less than 1 as the same?

lol

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody has to get it at some point, get the vaccine. I’m a single mom I had to move my ex in to help with the kids as I am an essential employee. Staying at home was terrible for my kids and now my ex want to work things out. For the love of god I can’t take another year of this. When I was in college a good friend got chicken pox as an adult bc his parents were antivax. He was hospitalized for months, things like this are so preventable.

How old are you? The chicken pox vaccine was approved in 1995.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/varicella.pdf

Just because it was approved in 1995 doesn’t mean people who were adults then got it. I was 21 in 1995, didn’t have chicken pox as a kid, and only learned about and got the vaccine a few years later because I did proactive research after a friend got chicken pox as an adult.

There was no big campaign to get all of the adults who never had chicken pox vaccinated. I suspect a lot of people who were in their 20s or older when the vaccine came out never got it.

This is what I meant. PP's friend would have to be very young for the non-vac'ed status to be due to anti-vac parents.

I don’t get why PP is referring to PPP as a liar. I was born in 1987 and I also had classmates that were not vaccinated as was their parents choice. Does one have to 50+ to post on this forum?

I asked for the age, but didn't call them a liar. I thought that depending on their age it was perfectly possible that the friend just hadn't received the vaccine as a child because it didn't exist and not because of anti-vac parents. But you're right, you'd have to be middle-aged - I did the research but not the math before asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our Plan B is moving for the year. I was looking at options last night. Will rent in another state with fulltime in person and either rent out our AUPark house or leave it empty and eat the costs.

Yes, same here, also in AU. Maybe we can find something close enough that we can spend the weekends at our house.

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

they’re totally different viruses? what point do you think you are making? all childhood viruses run a spectrum from serious to mild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a plan b. I didn't really have one last year, either. It is a real mark of privilege to just be able to pull a backup education and childcare option out of your back pocket at the last minute.

And that's why, if they close schools again (I mean widespread closures, not limited quarantines which I expect at this point), my Plan B is to protest the hell out of it. The only other real alternative for my family would be to move, but obviously that's not an easy proposition for us or we would have done it already. But at this point, I have less to lose by protesting and putting up a big fight than doing anything else. I already know what a year of DL means for my kid and our family, what it means for me, personally. It's not like last year when I thought I could tough it out, or I believed we were doing something important to help others (ha!). Now I know what it is.

So Plan B is showing up at Central Office every day with a megaphone until they do something about this.

I’m be filing a lawsuit. Watch this space!

[Anonymous]

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

Yeah, why aren’t public health officials drawing parallels to a disease THAT IS ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE SEVERE TO KIDS????? Do you geniuses know how decimal places work? Or do your tiny lizard brains just lump together all numbers less than 1 as the same?

Not orders of magnitude, actually: https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

Death rate from polio is higher (.05% vs. 0% to .03%, depending state), but not by orders of magnitude. There’s no equivalent data point for long-term effects for COVID-19 (since we’re still pretty early in the game), but the hospitalization rate was as high as 1.9% in some states. And this article suggests that long COVID could be a thing in kids, too: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01935-7.

but the argument people are trying to make is that there’s some kind of mysterious “long covid” that can stem from mild or asymptomatic cases. that is nothing like polio - pretty sure everyone knew when the kid got paralyzed.

there’s zero indication that covid is similar to polio for kids. stop fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

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As a teacher, I’m 100% confident that we will be in person. I just finished DCs leadership academy this week and they have every indication of business as usual 8/30
If I was a parent I’d be real worried that there are no quarantine policies for concurrent teaching. Last year it was easier when we had to shut down bc students were used to virtual learning, and a lot of teachers already had created in person lessons that could be accessible virtually. I’m not sure how that’s all going to work this year. When we ask Dcps we get nothing

Great job, everyone. The political pressure you've applied have scared DCPS away from having any contingency plans. Because so many of you have screamed bloody murder that the schools better not be planning for anything less than 100% attendance, full day, 5 days a way -- no matter what the metrics may actually look during the school year.

More than 16,600 children had been hospitalized with the coronavirus thus far, and schools haven't started back up yet. Kids are on ventilators. For the idiots who think "Delta doesn't make kids more ill," it does make MORE kids ill, and so there will be a lot more kids who will be severely ill.

But your tantrums have resulted in there being no backup plan, so kids will be in school until Delta is already spreading like wildfire because there's nothing to fall back on.

Yes, I want kids to remain in school as long as possible. I have a kid who is high risk, and I haven't requested a virtual waiver because their ADHD makes it impossible for them to access virtual learning. I full expect that we will have to pull our kid our early because the pigheadedness that has resulted in no backup plan.

So thanks a lot for making it impossible for schools to take action before someone's kid -- maybe your own, maybe mine -- has to pay the price.

+1
And as of yesterday's news, apparently, not just more kids ill, but kids more ill, as they've now established that delta causes more severe illness.

Please cite the link for delta causing more severe illness in children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
More severe illness. It doesn't specify 'in children', it just implies 'in humans,' which children are.

and yet, UK and Netherlands did not see an epidemic of child covid deaths.

Long-term sequelae are what we are worried about with kid covid.
Think, polio.

I’m amazed that more people—particularly public health experts—haven’t made this connection. The death rate from polio among children was .05%; rate of severe effects (paralysis) was 1%. 70% of cases were asymptomatic. Not so different from COVID-19!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

Are you a public health expert? Or are you the rando on the internet who is asking WHY DON'T THE EXPERTS SEE WHAT I SEE? Just take a guess that the experts know more than you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a plan b. I didn't really have one last year, either. It is a real mark of privilege to just be able to pull a backup education and childcare option out of your back pocket at the last minute.

And that's why, if they close schools again (I mean widespread closures, not limited quarantines which I expect at this point), my Plan B is to protest the hell out of it. The only other real alternative for my family would be to move, but obviously that's not an easy proposition for us or we would have done it already. But at this point, I have less to lose by protesting and putting up a big fight than doing anything else. I already know what a year of DL means for my kid and our family, what it means for me, personally. It's not like last year when I thought I could tough it out, or I believed we were doing something important to help others (ha!). Now I know what it is.

So Plan B is showing up at Central Office every day with a megaphone until they do something about this.

I’m be filing a lawsuit. Watch this space!

Watch for the lawsuit I'm be filing if my healthy unvac'ed kid gets covid at mandatory in-person elementary school!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a plan b. I didn't really have one last year, either. It is a real mark of privilege to just be able to pull a backup education and childcare option out of your back pocket at the last minute.

And that's why, if they close schools again (I mean widespread closures, not limited quarantines which I expect at this point), my Plan B is to protest the hell out of it. The only other real alternative for my family would be to move, but obviously that's not an easy proposition for us or we would have done it already. But at this point, I have less to lose by protesting and putting up a big fight than doing anything else. I already know what a year of DL means for my kid and our family, what it means for me, personally. It's not like last year when I thought I could tough it out, or I believed we were doing something important to help others (ha!). Now I know what it is.

So Plan B is showing up at Central Office every day with a megaphone until they do something about this.

I’m be filing a lawsuit. Watch this space!

Watch for the lawsuit I'm be filing if my healthy unvac'ed kid gets covid at mandatory in-person elementary school!

*long-covid.