Cannot pick between these two names for daughter

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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


+1 Seriously.
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Anonymous wrote:Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


No, you are the one who is not grasping. Go look at the SSA history for Sophie and Charlotte. These are not fad names. They have been popular forever.

Sophie is currently ranked #75. But Sophie has been in the top 200 since the 90s. It was ranked #136 one hundred years ago, which is barely less popular than today.

Oh, you want to look at Sophia instead? Okay. It's #5 now. In 1983 it was #210. In 1921 it was #299. These names didn't come out of nowhere and suddenly get trendy. Are they peaking in popularity? Maybe. But keep in mind the most popular names now are nowhere near as popular as they used to be. There are fewer Sophias today than there were Marys and Susan in the 50s. These names are classics. Eternal.

Charlotte is even more obvious. The highest it's ranked on the SSA list in the last 121 years is #308, in the 80s. But it's ranked in the top 200 for most of the last century, and in the top 100 for (eyeballing here) about half that time.

Calling these names "fads" is like saying it's a fad for women to wear pants, or that eating salad is a fad, or that living in California is a fad. Look up the words "fad" and "trendy". You are using them incorrectly.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


You're completely missing PP's point. A name like "Jennifer" is a fad. Sophie and Charlotte have been top 100, common names for hundreds of years.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


You're completely missing PP's point. A name like "Jennifer" is a fad. Sophie and Charlotte have been top 100, common names for hundreds of years.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Both are super popular. DH wanted to name our baby Sophia and I wanted a different name. When we asked opinions of the nurses at the hospital, everyone basically said, “Not another Sophia!”. We went with my choice with Sophia as a middle name.



During the big Ava fad 15 years ago, some poor woman told my grandmother that her baby’s name was Ava and my grandmother said, “well of course it is”.



So you're proud of the fact that your grandmother is a b1tch? Interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


You're completely missing PP's point. A name like "Jennifer" is a fad. Sophie and Charlotte have been top 100, common names for hundreds of years.


DP. You're completely missing PP's point. The practical result is the same.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


You're completely missing PP's point. A name like "Jennifer" is a fad. Sophie and Charlotte have been top 100, common names for hundreds of years.


DP. You're completely missing PP's point. The practical result is the same.


And what exactly is the practical result? That a girl has a pretty, classic name that's been around for hundreds of years? The horror! And please, tell us what your kids name is? Brixxleigh? Neveah? Palmer? I promise you people roll their eyes at your kids "unique" name too.
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What result? That you're going to run into another kid with the same name? THE HORROR!
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Anonymous wrote:What result? That you're going to run into another kid with the same name? THE HORROR!


I think we all know why people like PP are worried about their kid having the same name as someone else in the class. They think they are just oh so special and their special unique snowflake has to have a special unique name, when the reality is they know they're so basic if they don't name their kid something like "Brixton" no one will pay attention to them.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


You're completely missing PP's point. A name like "Jennifer" is a fad. Sophie and Charlotte have been top 100, common names for hundreds of years.


DP. You're completely missing PP's point. The practical result is the same.


And what exactly is the practical result? That a girl has a pretty, classic name that's been around for hundreds of years? The horror! And please, tell us what your kids name is? Brixxleigh? Neveah? Palmer? I promise you people roll their eyes at your kids "unique" name too.


Are you kidding me? There’re many “normal” names that aren’t trendy.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this some kind of personality disorder? These people who are obsessed with the idea that every baby must get a unique, rare name? That if your child shares a name with other children it means you have ruined your child’s life. Although honestly, many of these comments aren’t even about the baby. It’s more like you’re all mad because OP and people like her have failed to entertain you or interest you with their name choices. Why is that important? If you don’t hear a novel baby name every day, you’re mad? I do not get it.

I can’t figure out another explanation for why there are 8 pages of comments berating OP for wanting to use one of two popular (and pretty!) baby names, when one of the first things OP said was “I know they are popular.”

Seriously, she knows. She doesn’t care— these are the names she likes. Do you honestly think she or her child would be better off if she picked some name that she didn’t feel connected to or didn’t like as well? Think this through. You are all being insane. Stop trying to shove your values onto someone who doesn’t share them, and maybe take a minute to ask yourself why “giving babies original names” is so important to you. I think a lot of you need therapy because this is honestly weird.



People are just cautioning OP not to saddle her daughter with a fad name. And that’s all Sophia and Charlotte are - names that are current fad. No is is saying name her something made up or unique - just not a name where there will be millions with her first name in her generation.



Both of these names have been within the top 100 or 200 names for over 100 years. That's the opposite of a fad. A baby Charlotte or Sophie is likely to run into children with her name, as well as adults and older relatives. She is likely to encounter children with her name even once she is an adult. This is the experience of millions of people all over the world every day. People are very into using different names right now. One could argue that that is the trend. Giving your kid one of these names is literally never trendy.

If OP was thinking about naming her child after a Game of Thrones character, maybe I get the "concern". But she's not. These are classic names that have been popular in English-speaking countries for over a century (probably longer, but I could only look them up on the SSA site going back to 1900). Cautioning someone against naming their kid Charlotte or Sophie is deranged.


My name is Sophie. I was named for my father's aunt, who was named for her grandmother. Hardly a fad!



Oh, come on! If you’re old enough to post here, it wasn’t a fad when you were born. That’s really not a hard concept to grasp, PP. If you are a Susan born in 1960, your name was part of the fad. If you’re baby is named Susan today, you’re clearly not.


You're completely missing PP's point. A name like "Jennifer" is a fad. Sophie and Charlotte have been top 100, common names for hundreds of years.


DP. You're completely missing PP's point. The practical result is the same.


And what exactly is the practical result? That a girl has a pretty, classic name that's been around for hundreds of years? The horror! And please, tell us what your kids name is? Brixxleigh? Neveah? Palmer? I promise you people roll their eyes at your kids "unique" name too.


Are you kidding me? There’re many “normal” names that aren’t trendy.


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A real Sophie's choice.

I can't believe this thread made it to 9 pages.
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Anonymous wrote:A real Sophie's choice.

I can't believe this thread made it to 9 pages.


Imagine 9 pages about "should I name my kid Michael or Matthew"
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