40% of math curriculum was skipped this year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

If you're worried, testify. Or send your kid to the private school you think better meets your needs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

If you're worried, testify. Or send your kid to the private school you think better meets your needs.

Once again, just because other states and counties have opened up, it does not by ANY means mean they are ahead. I know all you reopeners love to think "disruption" isn't a thing, but it very much is. I sent my kid to live with my sister in MoCo for the duration of the pandemic as I'm a teacher in Arizona. My son has absolutely gotten a better education in MCPS through distance learning that what has been provided in-person out here. We've been open since August (on and off...it has been far from consistent.) BECAUSE of this inconsistency of reopening, closing, reopening, switching to hybrid, switching to virtual, switching to in-person, this year has been nothing more than constantly going over procedures and routines, getting kids settled, finally getting them used to a platform, then it switches again and we starts all over-again. I've never been so far behind in a year, my students have never been this apathetic or listless, and it's not just my classroom..its my colleagues in my grade level,my school, my district, and finally, the rest of the state. All of the teachers and most of the parents out here agree. You think opening school buildings is what will provide your kids with education. Wrong. Stability, consistency, and reliability will. I don't care if you don't believe me because NONE of you will listen to the people who are actually telling you the truth about how it has been. You instead choose to see this through your own lens and think you are correct no matter what. I know this won't change your mind, but your kids will be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who say their kids are thriving in distant learning, how do you feel about this? Are they thriving because they are only learning 60% of the content?

BINGO!

I was all proud of my kid for getting an A in math this year. And I still am, but it definitely took the shine off his accomplishment when we discovered how much they left out. Not his fault obviously we thought it was the full course load.

Well, the amount he did learn was proportional to the amount of instructional time he was allotted to learn it in. So the adjusted achievement would be considered equivalent. Give the kid his Bozo button!

And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

Our kids aren't behind. Have you done any private school classes? We did one last summer and our child was far ahead. It was surprising how far behind the kids were come middle school. We looked at privates and several were way behind the pubic schools as well even with MCPS being very slow. Kids will be fine.

"Kids will be fine." Is this phrase in some progressive handbook or something? It appears anytime someone complains about some cookie progressive policy coming down the pipeline. Busing? Don't worry about which school your kid attends. The kids will be fine. Schools have been virtual for a year and a half? Don't worry about that. Kids have it worse everywhere else. The kids will be fine. MCPS is ruining the magnet program by making it a lottery system? Don't worry. The magnet program isn't that great anyway. The kids will be fine. MCPS is thinking about doing away with advanced math. Don't worry. Kids don't really need advanced math. The kids will be fine. I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't choose to live in Montgomery County with its world-class school system reputation and pay the fortune in taxes so my kids could be "fine" aka "meh."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

If you're worried, testify. Or send your kid to the private school you think better meets your needs.

Once again, just because other states and counties have opened up, it does not by ANY means mean they are ahead. I know all you reopeners love to think "disruption" isn't a thing, but it very much is. I sent my kid to live with my sister in MoCo for the duration of the pandemic as I'm a teacher in Arizona. My son has absolutely gotten a better education in MCPS through distance learning that what has been provided in-person out here. We've been open since August (on and off...it has been far from consistent.) BECAUSE of this inconsistency of reopening, closing, reopening, switching to hybrid, switching to virtual, switching to in-person, this year has been nothing more than constantly going over procedures and routines, getting kids settled, finally getting them used to a platform, then it switches again and we starts all over-again. I've never been so far behind in a year, my students have never been this apathetic or listless, and it's not just my classroom..its my colleagues in my grade level,my school, my district, and finally, the rest of the state. All of the teachers and most of the parents out here agree. You think opening school buildings is what will provide your kids with education. Wrong. Stability, consistency, and reliability will. I don't care if you don't believe me because NONE of you will listen to the people who are actually telling you the truth about how it has been. You instead choose to see this through your own lens and think you are correct no matter what. I know this won't change your mind, but your kids will be fine.

You can say whatever you like but we've got data that says MCPS watered the math curriculum down by an average of 40%. No private school here is working that slowly. And many other jurisdictions that did stay virtual did not cut down the curriculum by that much. MCPS is a joke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

If you're worried, testify. Or send your kid to the private school you think better meets your needs.

Once again, just because other states and counties have opened up, it does not by ANY means mean they are ahead. I know all you reopeners love to think "disruption" isn't a thing, but it very much is. I sent my kid to live with my sister in MoCo for the duration of the pandemic as I'm a teacher in Arizona. My son has absolutely gotten a better education in MCPS through distance learning that what has been provided in-person out here. We've been open since August (on and off...it has been far from consistent.) BECAUSE of this inconsistency of reopening, closing, reopening, switching to hybrid, switching to virtual, switching to in-person, this year has been nothing more than constantly going over procedures and routines, getting kids settled, finally getting them used to a platform, then it switches again and we starts all over-again. I've never been so far behind in a year, my students have never been this apathetic or listless, and it's not just my classroom..its my colleagues in my grade level,my school, my district, and finally, the rest of the state. All of the teachers and most of the parents out here agree. You think opening school buildings is what will provide your kids with education. Wrong. Stability, consistency, and reliability will. I don't care if you don't believe me because NONE of you will listen to the people who are actually telling you the truth about how it has been. You instead choose to see this through your own lens and think you are correct no matter what. I know this won't change your mind, but your kids will be fine.

You can say whatever you like but we've got data that says MCPS watered the math curriculum down by an average of 40%. No private school here is working that slowly. And many other jurisdictions that did stay virtual did not cut down the curriculum by that much. MCPS is a joke.

¨Watered down 40%¨? Not at all an accurate statement of what happened this year. Materials were cut to cover the most important materials in the available time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

If you're worried, testify. Or send your kid to the private school you think better meets your needs.

Once again, just because other states and counties have opened up, it does not by ANY means mean they are ahead. I know all you reopeners love to think "disruption" isn't a thing, but it very much is. I sent my kid to live with my sister in MoCo for the duration of the pandemic as I'm a teacher in Arizona. My son has absolutely gotten a better education in MCPS through distance learning that what has been provided in-person out here. We've been open since August (on and off...it has been far from consistent.) BECAUSE of this inconsistency of reopening, closing, reopening, switching to hybrid, switching to virtual, switching to in-person, this year has been nothing more than constantly going over procedures and routines, getting kids settled, finally getting them used to a platform, then it switches again and we starts all over-again. I've never been so far behind in a year, my students have never been this apathetic or listless, and it's not just my classroom..its my colleagues in my grade level,my school, my district, and finally, the rest of the state. All of the teachers and most of the parents out here agree. You think opening school buildings is what will provide your kids with education. Wrong. Stability, consistency, and reliability will. I don't care if you don't believe me because NONE of you will listen to the people who are actually telling you the truth about how it has been. You instead choose to see this through your own lens and think you are correct no matter what. I know this won't change your mind, but your kids will be fine.

You can say whatever you like but we've got data that says MCPS watered the math curriculum down by an average of 40%. No private school here is working that slowly. And many other jurisdictions that did stay virtual did not cut down the curriculum by that much. MCPS is a joke.

¨Watered down 40%¨? Not at all an accurate statement of what happened this year. Materials were cut to cover the most important materials in the available time.

Exactly and because these outraged parents never actually cared before, they’d realize this happens in normal years as well. Some of the curriculum that was cut was done so because it was covered in other lessons. Eureka has many lessons that are almost identical to others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

If you're worried, testify. Or send your kid to the private school you think better meets your needs.

Once again, just because other states and counties have opened up, it does not by ANY means mean they are ahead. I know all you reopeners love to think "disruption" isn't a thing, but it very much is. I sent my kid to live with my sister in MoCo for the duration of the pandemic as I'm a teacher in Arizona. My son has absolutely gotten a better education in MCPS through distance learning that what has been provided in-person out here. We've been open since August (on and off...it has been far from consistent.) BECAUSE of this inconsistency of reopening, closing, reopening, switching to hybrid, switching to virtual, switching to in-person, this year has been nothing more than constantly going over procedures and routines, getting kids settled, finally getting them used to a platform, then it switches again and we starts all over-again. I've never been so far behind in a year, my students have never been this apathetic or listless, and it's not just my classroom..its my colleagues in my grade level,my school, my district, and finally, the rest of the state. All of the teachers and most of the parents out here agree. You think opening school buildings is what will provide your kids with education. Wrong. Stability, consistency, and reliability will. I don't care if you don't believe me because NONE of you will listen to the people who are actually telling you the truth about how it has been. You instead choose to see this through your own lens and think you are correct no matter what. I know this won't change your mind, but your kids will be fine.

You can say whatever you like but we've got data that says MCPS watered the math curriculum down by an average of 40%. No private school here is working that slowly. And many other jurisdictions that did stay virtual did not cut down the curriculum by that much. MCPS is a joke.

¨Watered down 40%¨? Not at all an accurate statement of what happened this year. Materials were cut to cover the most important materials in the available time.

So the MPCS document that MCPS sent out about the amount of math content that MCPS reduced BY CLASS is incorrect? https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedfiles/curriculum/Secondary-Mathematics-Virtual-Learning-2020-2021.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who say their kids are thriving in distant learning, how do you feel about this? Are they thriving because they are only learning 60% of the content?

BINGO!

I was all proud of my kid for getting an A in math this year. And I still am, but it definitely took the shine off his accomplishment when we discovered how much they left out. Not his fault obviously we thought it was the full course load.

Well, the amount he did learn was proportional to the amount of instructional time he was allotted to learn it in. So the adjusted achievement would be considered equivalent. Give the kid his Bozo button!

And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

Our kids aren't behind. Have you done any private school classes? We did one last summer and our child was far ahead. It was surprising how far behind the kids were come middle school. We looked at privates and several were way behind the pubic schools as well even with MCPS being very slow. Kids will be fine.

"Kids will be fine." Is this phrase in some progressive handbook or something? It appears anytime someone complains about some cookie progressive policy coming down the pipeline. Busing? Don't worry about which school your kid attends. The kids will be fine. Schools have been virtual for a year and a half? Don't worry about that. Kids have it worse everywhere else. The kids will be fine. MCPS is ruining the magnet program by making it a lottery system? Don't worry. The magnet program isn't that great anyway. The kids will be fine. MCPS is thinking about doing away with advanced math. Don't worry. Kids don't really need advanced math. The kids will be fine. I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't choose to live in Montgomery County with its world-class school system reputation and pay the fortune in taxes so my kids could be "fine" aka "meh."

Apart from the comment about busing (busing kids to school has always happened and will continue to) I agree. Why the massive MCPS budget if cutting 40% of content doesn't matter?

[Anonymous]

These talking points about kids being "fine" are not progressive, they are anti-education gaslighting BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents who say their kids are thriving in distant learning, how do you feel about this? Are they thriving because they are only learning 60% of the content?

BINGO!

I was all proud of my kid for getting an A in math this year. And I still am, but it definitely took the shine off his accomplishment when we discovered how much they left out. Not his fault obviously we thought it was the full course load.

Well, the amount he did learn was proportional to the amount of instructional time he was allotted to learn it in. So the adjusted achievement would be considered equivalent. Give the kid his Bozo button!

And if MCPS was in a bubble I'd agree with you. However, ours kids are competing with kids in private schools here as well as kids in other states and countries that have opened their schools. Our kids are behind. I hope there's a plan to catch them up.

Our kids aren't behind. Have you done any private school classes? We did one last summer and our child was far ahead. It was surprising how far behind the kids were come middle school. We looked at privates and several were way behind the pubic schools as well even with MCPS being very slow. Kids will be fine.

"Kids will be fine." Is this phrase in some progressive handbook or something? It appears anytime someone complains about some cookie progressive policy coming down the pipeline. Busing? Don't worry about which school your kid attends. The kids will be fine. Schools have been virtual for a year and a half? Don't worry about that. Kids have it worse everywhere else. The kids will be fine. MCPS is ruining the magnet program by making it a lottery system? Don't worry. The magnet program isn't that great anyway. The kids will be fine. MCPS is thinking about doing away with advanced math. Don't worry. Kids don't really need advanced math. The kids will be fine. I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't choose to live in Montgomery County with its world-class school system reputation and pay the fortune in taxes so my kids could be "fine" aka "meh."

You know what, I think you’re right. And anyone who disagrees with the ridiculous ‘progressive’ initiatives is either a Karen or a racist.

MCPS may have had a ‘world-class’ school system years ago, but has become a complete joke over the past decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These talking points about kids being "fine" are not progressive, they are anti-education gaslighting BS.

And the people proclaiming their 2nd grader is ruined for life because of this year are fear mongering hysterics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These talking points about kids being "fine" are not progressive, they are anti-education gaslighting BS.

And the people proclaiming their 2nd grader is ruined for life because of this year are fear mongering hysterics.

I haven't seen anybody actually saying that, but lots of people are mischaracterizing other people's comments as that because they can't handle that school closures are harmful to children (which is NOT THE SAME AS SAYING THEIR LIVES ARE RUINED).

[Anonymous]

Math is spiral, so even if the kids are missing some components of the scope and sequence of their curriculum, they should be able to catch up in later years. It's not like all of us aren't aware of the issue, MCPS included.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These talking points about kids being "fine" are not progressive, they are anti-education gaslighting BS.

And the people proclaiming their 2nd grader is ruined for life because of this year are fear mongering hysterics.

I haven't seen anybody actually saying that, but lots of people are mischaracterizing other people's comments as that because they can't handle that school closures are harmful to children (which is NOT THE SAME AS SAYING THEIR LIVES ARE RUINED).

Clearly you have been saved from the cesspool that is social media then. That is absolutely the narrative and DIRECT quotes from parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These talking points about kids being "fine" are not progressive, they are anti-education gaslighting BS.

And the people proclaiming their 2nd grader is ruined for life because of this year are fear mongering hysterics.

I haven't seen anybody actually saying that, but lots of people are mischaracterizing other people's comments as that because they can't handle that school closures are harmful to children (which is NOT THE SAME AS SAYING THEIR LIVES ARE RUINED).

Clearly you have been saved from the cesspool that is social media then. That is absolutely the narrative and DIRECT quotes from parents.

Great, so can we agree that school closures are harmful to children? And that spending money on, and providing in-person schooling, is worthwhile?