MCPS asks for 4 days off so teachers can prepare building for in-person instruction

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am blown away at the nastiness and ignorance on this thread. Is there any profession in the world as disrespected as the teacher. That all of you think you can just look at and judge and think about how much time it takes to do their jobs? The lack of respect and value for teachers is disgraceful. If you think it is such a cushy, easy job than why didn't you become a teacher? If you want your child to learn, it isn't about returning to school in person- it is about respect. If you think this away about their teachers, what attitude do you think they have towards their teachers. I am sure it is challenging to learn when you feel that you already know everything. If you think it is so easy to unpack and set up a classroom, then you should volunteer to go and help your child's teacher. This is really ugly, and this is the problem, not where we are learning, but the community speaking and writing this ugly rehetoric.

Talk about your low hanging fruit: Lawyers. Politicians. Used car salesmen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I pray someone from Central office with any authority is reading this thread. For gods sake, you’ve had a YEAR to plan for this and you act like you’re surprised we might actually return to a school building, like ever. I never thought I’d have to beg for the CHOICE to send my kid to school.

New poster here. I agree with nearly everyone here. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Open the schools, teachers can prepare any afternoon after classes end - or before 9am when classes start. You're only teaching like 4-5 hours a day.

Honest question:
If teachers have 3 classes with 30 students each and have one homework _project and one quiz/test per week, how long does grading take?

Come on, you can do this math. Let’s use your example of 90 kids and assume 10 min of grading per student... 900 min = 15h

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

+10000 - MCPS employees have truly shown this year how little they care about students at a time they were supposedly rolling out a new program about the physical, social, and emotional support of students. I have sat with my child to get him online and have him work in the dining room and classes are abysmal soul sucking experience. One teacher’s class yesterday was “independent work”. No review or instruction for the major unit test. Just directions to log of and work on your own. Another teacher was driving his car during class. DL is a sh$t show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

+10000 - MCPS employees have truly shown this year how little they care about students at a time they were supposedly rolling out a new program about the physical, social, and emotional support of students. I have sat with my child to get him online and have him work in the dining room and classes are abysmal soul sucking experience. One teacher’s class yesterday was “independent work”. No review or instruction for the major unit test. Just directions to log of and work on your own. Another teacher was driving his car during class. DL is a sh$t show.

Two of my daughter's five teachers don't even turn THEIR cameras on. I just found this out yesterday at dinner. I am not home while they are at school. I actually get out of the house to do my job and have to leave my kids home for "school"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

It's a CONTRACTED position. It's different.

No, it's not. Teachers are exempted professional employees under FLSA (i.e., they're salaried). Certain terms of their employment are governed by a collective bargaining agreement (aka, a contract), but they are not contracted employees.

[Anonymous]

my guess is that mcps will either counter with one day off or two days off or more likely they're just going to turn a bunch of full days of instruction into half days so everyone going back into the building can scramble to get everything set up. Or they will get sub coverage

I have a lot of colleagues who had to pack up everything into boxes because our building was being renovated. I don't care about the "you had a year to think about this" argument. Boxes don't magically unpack themselves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

Again you chose to have kids and you choose to parent them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my guess is that mcps will either counter with one day off or two days off or more likely they're just going to turn a bunch of full days of instruction into half days so everyone going back into the building can scramble to get everything set up. Or they will get sub coverage

I have a lot of colleagues who had to pack up everything into boxes because our building was being renovated. I don't care about the "you had a year to think about this" argument. Boxes don't magically unpack themselves

Boxes also don't need to be unpacked for the first day of class. The kids will be so excited to be back in school again that they aren't going to care about a pile of boxes in the corner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am blown away at the nastiness and ignorance on this thread. Is there any profession in the world as disrespected as the teacher. That all of you think you can just look at and judge and think about how much time it takes to do their jobs? The lack of respect and value for teachers is disgraceful. If you think it is such a cushy, easy job than why didn't you become a teacher? If you want your child to learn, it isn't about returning to school in person- it is about respect. If you think this away about their teachers, what attitude do you think they have towards their teachers. I am sure it is challenging to learn when you feel that you already know everything. If you think it is so easy to unpack and set up a classroom, then you should volunteer to go and help your child's teacher. This is really ugly, and this is the problem, not where we are learning, but the community speaking and writing this ugly rehetoric.

I agree with you PP, the way teachers are talked about is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

+10000 - MCPS employees have truly shown this year how little they care about students at a time they were supposedly rolling out a new program about the physical, social, and emotional support of students. I have sat with my child to get him online and have him work in the dining room and classes are abysmal soul sucking experience. One teacher’s class yesterday was “independent work”. No review or instruction for the major unit test. Just directions to log of and work on your own. Another teacher was driving his car during class. DL is a sh$t show.

Two of my daughter's five teachers don't even turn THEIR cameras on. I just found this out yesterday at dinner. I am not home while they are at school. I actually get out of the house to do my job and have to leave my kids home for "school"

You would have known if you were more involved. Do your kids turn their cameras on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

+10000 - MCPS employees have truly shown this year how little they care about students at a time they were supposedly rolling out a new program about the physical, social, and emotional support of students. I have sat with my child to get him online and have him work in the dining room and classes are abysmal soul sucking experience. One teacher’s class yesterday was “independent work”. No review or instruction for the major unit test. Just directions to log of and work on your own. Another teacher was driving his car during class. DL is a sh$t show.

Which school is this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

+10000 - MCPS employees have truly shown this year how little they care about students at a time they were supposedly rolling out a new program about the physical, social, and emotional support of students. I have sat with my child to get him online and have him work in the dining room and classes are abysmal soul sucking experience. One teacher’s class yesterday was “independent work”. No review or instruction for the major unit test. Just directions to log of and work on your own. Another teacher was driving his car during class. DL is a sh$t show.

Two of my daughter's five teachers don't even turn THEIR cameras on. I just found this out yesterday at dinner. I am not home while they are at school. I actually get out of the house to do my job and have to leave my kids home for "school"

You would have known if you were more involved. Do your kids turn their cameras on?

Hey beotch teacher, I work 6:45am to 3:45pm as an RN 5 days a week. I am tired as all hell but I am involved. I emailed all of their teachers to make sure their cameras are on. I wrongly assumed the teachers would be. Your profession will never get respect with a holes like you. DO YOUR JOB!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should’ve told me I shouldn’t be working Wednesdays! I’m meeting with groups of students all morning and in meetings all afternoon.

To everyone volunteering my personal, unpaid time to set up classrooms, post your email and I’ll send you the volunteer sign up genius!

I’m getting sick and tired of the teacher trash talk. I love teaching and love watching your children grow and learn but all this vitriol doesn’t make the $25/hr after taxes worth it. You need to realize, this will drive away the really good teachers, the ones that have options. Then you’ll really have something to complain about when the teachers that are left are inexperienced or inept.

Do you know how many hours I work at home, outside of my pay. I am sure millions of others do the same. It is a SALARIED position. You are not an hourly employee.

Exactly. All of us are exhausted and doing way more than is listed on our job descriptions! I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a ton of extra work to do, plus of course caring for their own kids. I get frustrated when teachers imply that their circumstances are unique.

+1000, teachers are not the only people who have had to adjust in the past year and the continued implication that they are unique is so frustrating. Many of us are putting in hours well above and beyond our normal tours of duty, some of which is attributable to the fact that schools remain closed, so do I get to pass around a sign up genius for you to do portions of my job in exchange for the portions of your job that I am currently doing?

+10000 - MCPS employees have truly shown this year how little they care about students at a time they were supposedly rolling out a new program about the physical, social, and emotional support of students. I have sat with my child to get him online and have him work in the dining room and classes are abysmal soul sucking experience. One teacher’s class yesterday was “independent work”. No review or instruction for the major unit test. Just directions to log of and work on your own. Another teacher was driving his car during class. DL is a sh$t show.

Two of my daughter's five teachers don't even turn THEIR cameras on. I just found this out yesterday at dinner. I am not home while they are at school. I actually get out of the house to do my job and have to leave my kids home for "school"

You would have known if you were more involved. Do your kids turn their cameras on?

Hey beotch teacher, I work 6:45am to 3:45pm as an RN 5 days a week. I am tired as all hell but I am involved. I emailed all of their teachers to make sure their cameras are on. I wrongly assumed the teachers would be. Your profession will never get respect with a holes like you. DO YOUR JOB!!!!

Not a teacher and its not the teachers job to monitor your kids, its yours. No one cares if you are tired. Figure it out. Do your job as a parent. You want a prize for working?

[Anonymous]

Why can’t janitors set up the desks and stuff so that what is left is just the decorations? The books and manipulatives presumably can’t be used this year.
And yes I would love if a teacher posted a sign up genius asking for helping setting up in the evening. I’d gladly come in - I think some of the SAHMs would even come during the day to help.