BRYC Girls - how the mighty have fallen

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BRYC Girls U15 Composite team is top of NCSL U16 Div 1

[Anonymous]

Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

So is it fair to assume the players on the NCSL Composite Team are primarily those not on the ECNL rosters, with a few exceptions for weekly changes? If so, isn't this just showing the weakness of NCSL/the gap between NCSL and ECNL if the "2nd" team at BRYC can be at the top of the NCSL while everyone is shaming the "top" team for having poor ECNL results?

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Anonymous wrote:Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

So is it fair to assume the players on the NCSL Composite Team are primarily those not on the ECNL rosters, with a few exceptions for weekly changes? If so, isn't this just showing the weakness of NCSL/the gap between NCSL and ECNL if the "2nd" team at BRYC can be at the top of the NCSL while everyone is shaming the "top" team for having poor ECNL results?

Yes. People whose daughters haven’t played ECNL/GA or watched those games don’t understand how much higher-level the soccer is. BRYC’s U16 or U17 ECNL teams could probably beat most high school soccer teams around here despite not having won an ECNL game this season.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

So is it fair to assume the players on the NCSL Composite Team are primarily those not on the ECNL rosters, with a few exceptions for weekly changes? If so, isn't this just showing the weakness of NCSL/the gap between NCSL and ECNL if the "2nd" team at BRYC can be at the top of the NCSL while everyone is shaming the "top" team for having poor ECNL results?

Yes. People whose daughters haven’t played ECNL/GA or watched those games don’t understand how much higher-level the soccer is. BRYC’s U16 or U17 ECNL teams could probably beat most high school soccer teams around here despite not having won an ECNL game this season.

Agreed. These ECNL “2nd teams” would beat most VPL/CCL top teams as well.

[Anonymous]

The Composite team at u15 is only minimally weaker than the ECNL u15 team and they definitely are competitive when the 2 teams scrimmage. It is a deep pool at that age group.

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Anonymous wrote:The Composite team at u15 is only minimally weaker than the ECNL u15 team and they definitely are competitive when the 2 teams scrimmage. It is a deep pool at that age group.

How deep can it be if they lose all the ECNL games? Or maybe deep but not with top 5-8 players?

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Anonymous wrote:IMHO there are a couple of things going on at BRYC at least on the girls side. At pre-ECNL (U12 and younger) there is no pipeline of talent coming in. They seem to have a handful of talent at these ages but mostly in the midfield and a big drop off in talent in the front and back line. They don't play in a league, so I've only seen them in a few tournaments and scrimmages but the play style is consistent and possession oriented out of the back. They seem to value technical skills as their teams are generally small technical girls.
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I echo the dilution piece. The dilution at lower age levels stems a lot from how BRYC is set up a with Rec/ODSL teams and player pools on one side while Elite controls ECNL and NCSL entry. For example, parent coaches from rec will take strong rec players (or their own rec team) and form an ODSL team, and that is under the rec umbrella. When they want to move from ODSL to NCSL they have to go get Elite’s blessing and become a Bridge team which is still led by the parent coaches and don’t mix or train with the academy coaches. You also often have Bridge and ODSL coaches competing for the same players (e.g. one coach was lent players for a game in ODSL by another BRYC ODSL team and after that game the coach tried to poach those players by offering them unlimited playing time—this was a couple weeks into a season) and while there are many talented players on each team they are spread across those parent-led clubs as well as of course Elite, and many of those talented Bridge and ODSL players are better than the full Elite players. Additionally, there are many Bridge teams who have players playing up and many of those kids playing up are absolutely full Elite caliber within their own age group. An example of the dilution at the younger age group is at the U10 level where there probably are 7-8 2012s playing up on the two Bridge 2011 teams from that will be playing this Spring in NCSL and those 2012s are as good as if not better at all his moment in time individually than many of the 2012s in the academy already. I do not see how BRYC ever has their strongest travel players all together at the same time during any phase of development (U9-U19) because many kids who are happy on their Bridge team I am sure will never go to Elite.

[Anonymous]

Bryc is really run poorly on the elite side. The boys side more than the girls. The talent level has fallen and rather than acknowledge it and make changes in the technical staff and philosophy. They just keep taking families money while telling them how good their kid is. Perfect example is right in their backyard Burke AC is much better at development without the club ego.

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Anonymous wrote:Only problem is you didnt answer the question
Who is Burke AC
No one has ever heard of them

+1. This guy is delusional. His kid is on some third or fourth tier travel team that no-one's ever even heard of, and he wants to big him up.

Burke is actually the top team in the NCSL u14 division 1 . No horse in the race here . I do agree BRYC is very average at this point.

How is the level in NCSL?

Much better than garbage CCL

[Anonymous]

burke is definitely starting to overtake BRYC on the boys side at least at the younger and middle school ages

[Anonymous]

ECNL (travel to carolinas) is just a tough sell to a lot of people.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

So is it fair to assume the players on the NCSL Composite Team are primarily those not on the ECNL rosters, with a few exceptions for weekly changes? If so, isn't this just showing the weakness of NCSL/the gap between NCSL and ECNL if the "2nd" team at BRYC can be at the top of the NCSL while everyone is shaming the "top" team for having poor ECNL results?

Yes. People whose daughters haven’t played ECNL/GA or watched those games don’t understand how much higher-level the soccer is. BRYC’s U16 or U17 ECNL teams could probably beat most high school soccer teams around here despite not having won an ECNL game this season.

Agreed. There are large gaps between NCSL and CCL, and again between CCL and ECNL/GA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

So is it fair to assume the players on the NCSL Composite Team are primarily those not on the ECNL rosters, with a few exceptions for weekly changes? If so, isn't this just showing the weakness of NCSL/the gap between NCSL and ECNL if the "2nd" team at BRYC can be at the top of the NCSL while everyone is shaming the "top" team for having poor ECNL results?

Yes. People whose daughters haven’t played ECNL/GA or watched those games don’t understand how much higher-level the soccer is. BRYC’s U16 or U17 ECNL teams could probably beat most high school soccer teams around here despite not having won an ECNL game this season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep-one more game and they win the bracket.

So is it fair to assume the players on the NCSL Composite Team are primarily those not on the ECNL rosters, with a few exceptions for weekly changes? If so, isn't this just showing the weakness of NCSL/the gap between NCSL and ECNL if the "2nd" team at BRYC can be at the top of the NCSL while everyone is shaming the "top" team for having poor ECNL results?

Yes. People whose daughters haven’t played ECNL/GA or watched those games don’t understand how much higher-level the soccer is. BRYC’s U16 or U17 ECNL teams could probably beat most high school soccer teams around here despite not having won an ECNL game this season.

Agreed. There are large gaps between NCSL and CCL, and again between CCL and ECNL/GA.

Not true at all, Every team is different. There are some NCSL teams that would beat lo local ECNL teams 9 out of 10 games easily. NCSL and CCL are club decisions based on business partnerships and marketing. ECNL give your team more exposure and travel but by no means does that make them better teams at all. I wish we could do a DMV open cup for every age u9 thru u19 both boys and girls. The results would put the whole elite thing in a different light. Higher profile clubs and parents would highly be against this. The fear of exposure and having to see themselves for what they really are is not worth it to them.