If you use Uber Eats/DoorDash/GrubHub/other similiar apps, PLEASE try to tip and well, if possible.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for the circumstances for why someone has to do this but tipping is for someone who goes above and beyond the expectations of whatever service is being delivered. If the pay is not good, that’s an issue between employee and employer. I won’t reward someone for simply doing the expected job to an average or worse standard. That said, I think that a living wage should be paid, but this falls on the employer to do, not me, and yes I know that cost will be past on to the customer, but again tips are rewards for superior service.

+1 This is the only ethical answer

that’s not true. for many jobs, tips are part of the compensation. including delivery drivers.

The average hourly pay for a delivery driver in the US is 14/hr. Amazon drivers make 16-25 dollars before tips. A Papa John’s delivery driver makes 100-225 in tips every day over and above his base pay and that’s not close to high end. Even registered nurses (who need to take out loans to study and pay for recertifications) don’t make that much. The delivery organization is legally required to pay the employee’s base pay if tips don’t cover it, which usually means that if you tip, you’re subsidizing Uber eats and reducing their wage costs

In case this is not clear, I've attached an article which gets into a little more detail https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/22/20703434/delivery-app-tip-pay-theft-doordash-amazon-flex-instacart.

Here's a quote that is eye-opening - the lady below tipped 44% over and above her order, and this didn't benefit the driver at all:

"DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here’s how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving DoorDash $3, not tipping me."

That is shocking and disgusting. But I’m not comfortable with these kinds of delivery services anyway, for lots of reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:This Pandemic, like for many others, significantly affected my income this year. In order to supplement but still have flexibility, I started driving for Uber Eats and what a reality check on tips.
UE was my primary food delivery app that I used before driving for them. I would order at least 2-4x a month and always tipped, around $3-$8, going by what I felt was fine and not by any sort of percentage suggestion by Uber. Well, UE drivers (and maybe other company drivers as well) are pretty much paid the way a server is in a way. The base pay is SO small that tips are extremely important and if a customer doesn't tip, it's almost always going to be a loss on the driver in regards to time, gas, etc. I've learned amounts really matter too. I now tip around $10 for a delivery that's less than 10 miles from me and usually $15-$20 or 20-25% of my total delivery cost of food, whichever is higher, if the restaurant is 10-15+ miles away. As a driver, I don't think I've ever had a request for picking up from a restaurant that was more than 15 miles away but I'm sure area is a factor as well.

I just wanted to post this to show what I see going from a customer to a driver now =)

I tip well, but the service has been so awful (cold food from delayed delivery, tipped over packages so the sauces spill, items left in the car, and even one bag that smelled strongly of weed) that we are thinking of just getting meal kits from now through the next lockdown. It makes me sad, but we aren’t rich so every time we get delivery, it’s supposed to be a big culinary treat.

Concerning. Did you leave bad reviews?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

PP, don’t listen to this super-entitled person. He has no idea what you might be going through and what your reasons are for ordering delivery and you don’t owe him an explanation. I know what it’s like to be so pregnant and exhausted that even walking up a floor is an effort - I can’t even begin to imagine how the other poster is handling it with 4 kids, and this PP decided to insult her for it. Don’t let him shame you for any decision you take, including not tipping or minimum tips. He does not get to control your choices. The only choices he can control are his own. He’s chosen this industry to make a career in and this is the nature of the industry. He, at this time, has more choices than you do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

PP, don’t listen to this super-entitled person. He has no idea what you might be going through and what your reasons are for ordering delivery and you don’t owe him an explanation. I know what it’s like to be so pregnant and exhausted that even walking up a floor is an effort - I can’t even begin to imagine how the other poster is handling it with 4 kids, and this PP decided to insult her for it. Don’t let him shame you for any decision you take, including not tipping or minimum tips. He does not get to control your choices. The only choices he can control are his own. He’s chosen this industry to make a career in and this is the nature of the industry. He, at this time, has more choices than you do.

You don't know what industry I am in.

I am middle aged now, but when I was young I saved money by, among other things, severely limiting how often I ate out... but in the few times I did (sometimes yes, because I had to) I did tip.

From the service industry professional's viewpoint, the math just doesn't work without tips. I was a bartender and server when I was younger, and delivery drivers are no different be it Uber or others.

If you don't tip them, there is no point in their jobs, financially.

So what is really entitled is to expect someone to serve you, deliver your food or make your drinks, or clean up after you and do it while LOSING money, ok?

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Tipping implies a service done above and beyond expectations, not simply done. As for people complaining that servers don’t make enough, well take it up with their employer. I will support a living wage for employees no problem and tip for outstanding service. I won’t simply tip in order that an employer can continue to abrogate his/her responsibility to the employee.

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Anonymous wrote:Tipping implies a service done above and beyond expectations, not simply done. As for people complaining that servers don’t make enough, well take it up with their employer. I will support a living wage for employees no problem and tip for outstanding service. I won’t simply tip in order that an employer can continue to abrogate his/her responsibility to the employee.

Don't go eat in the restaurant or order from these types of services then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don't get to dictate what others tip.

Some people are just miserable assh@les.
Case in point above.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

PP, don’t listen to this super-entitled person. He has no idea what you might be going through and what your reasons are for ordering delivery and you don’t owe him an explanation. I know what it’s like to be so pregnant and exhausted that even walking up a floor is an effort - I can’t even begin to imagine how the other poster is handling it with 4 kids, and this PP decided to insult her for it. Don’t let him shame you for any decision you take, including not tipping or minimum tips. He does not get to control your choices. The only choices he can control are his own. He’s chosen this industry to make a career in and this is the nature of the industry. He, at this time, has more choices than you do.

You don't know what industry I am in.

I am middle aged now, but when I was young I saved money by, among other things, severely limiting how often I ate out... but in the few times I did (sometimes yes, because I had to) I did tip.

From the service industry professional's viewpoint, the math just doesn't work without tips. I was a bartender and server when I was younger, and delivery drivers are no different be it Uber or others.

If you don't tip them, there is no point in their jobs, financially.

So what is really entitled is to expect someone to serve you, deliver your food or make your drinks, or clean up after you and do it while LOSING money, ok?

I feel for you, I really do - you’ve led a tough life. But consider this,
First, You’re being paid 12-14 or 16-25 dollars an hour(depending on the delivery service) to pick food up from the restaurant and drop food off at PP’s home - no more and no less, and you’re guaranteed a specific wage by the delivery service. If tips don’t cover it they are legally obligated to pay you that amount - this is important to note.. Now, compare this to the cook at the restaurant who makes the food and gets 10/hr. The restaurant does not have the deep pockets Amazon and ubereats have. Compare this to the similarly paid registered nurse or even a babysitter, who cleans their patients/babies up when they soil themselves. They and people like them work really hard, and do plenty of unpleasant things, with no expectation of tips unless they go over and above their mandate.

Second, the only reason you think the industry doesn’t work without tips is because the industry is exploiting you. You cannot put this on the customer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

Yes!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

PP, don’t listen to this super-entitled person. He has no idea what you might be going through and what your reasons are for ordering delivery and you don’t owe him an explanation. I know what it’s like to be so pregnant and exhausted that even walking up a floor is an effort - I can’t even begin to imagine how the other poster is handling it with 4 kids, and this PP decided to insult her for it. Don’t let him shame you for any decision you take, including not tipping or minimum tips. He does not get to control your choices. The only choices he can control are his own. He’s chosen this industry to make a career in and this is the nature of the industry. He, at this time, has more choices than you do.

You don't know what industry I am in.

I am middle aged now, but when I was young I saved money by, among other things, severely limiting how often I ate out... but in the few times I did (sometimes yes, because I had to) I did tip.

From the service industry professional's viewpoint, the math just doesn't work without tips. I was a bartender and server when I was younger, and delivery drivers are no different be it Uber or others.

If you don't tip them, there is no point in their jobs, financially.

So what is really entitled is to expect someone to serve you, deliver your food or make your drinks, or clean up after you and do it while LOSING money, ok?

I feel for you, I really do - you’ve led a tough life. But consider this,
First, You’re being paid 12-14 or 16-25 dollars an hour(depending on the delivery service) to pick food up from the restaurant and drop food off at PP’s home - no more and no less, and you’re guaranteed a specific wage by the delivery service. If tips don’t cover it they are legally obligated to pay you that amount - this is important to note.. Now, compare this to the cook at the restaurant who makes the food and gets 10/hr. The restaurant does not have the deep pockets Amazon and ubereats have. Compare this to the similarly paid registered nurse or even a babysitter, who cleans their patients/babies up when they soil themselves. They and people like them work really hard, and do plenty of unpleasant things, with no expectation of tips unless they go over and above their mandate.

Second, the only reason you think the industry doesn’t work without tips is because the industry is exploiting you. You cannot put this on the customer.

You compared a babysitter or Uber Eats to the profession of a Registered Nurse??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tipping implies a service done above and beyond expectations, not simply done. As for people complaining that servers don’t make enough, well take it up with their employer. I will support a living wage for employees no problem and tip for outstanding service. I won’t simply tip in order that an employer can continue to abrogate his/her responsibility to the employee.

Don't go eat in the restaurant or order from these types of services then.

No, that’s not right. The company offers a service and quotes a price for it. You choose to work fir that company and so are part of the service provided. If the customer chooses to tip you, that is his decision. It’s when you feel entitled to a tip, or make statements like “if you can’t tip me you don’t deserve to eat here” that you begin to go wrong. You should instead be telling the company “if you can’t pay me a living wage, you don’t deserve to have me as an employee”. By not valuing yourself, you’re only enabling predation by these companies. Drivers have started to confront these companies in the past few years which is why things are now better than they used to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what was the average tip you got in this area?

OP here. It's hard for me to put it in average tip terms but on a typical Friday/Saturday night, from say 6p-11p, pay can range between $80-$130 for me. These two nights are obviously when people order most often, and tend to tip more as they're getting food for the household vs during breakfast or lunch, oftentimes it's a meal for one, so lots of small to zero tips. I do set aside 20% as I know I'll owe during tax time as an independent contractor but no surprise there when doing this type of work.

I’m a low paid essential worker and that’s more than I make in an evening babysitting, so I’m cool with not tipping. I’m already paying for the service. Since you do so well in tips, you will be fine without money from me.

If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford Uber Eats, or going to a restaurant. You are better off saving that little money you have for rent and groceries and cook or pick up your own food.

Delivery is a luxury, if it is so expensive for you that you can't tip, don't do it.

You are wasting the driver/waiter/bartender's time.

PP, don’t listen to this super-entitled person. He has no idea what you might be going through and what your reasons are for ordering delivery and you don’t owe him an explanation. I know what it’s like to be so pregnant and exhausted that even walking up a floor is an effort - I can’t even begin to imagine how the other poster is handling it with 4 kids, and this PP decided to insult her for it. Don’t let him shame you for any decision you take, including not tipping or minimum tips. He does not get to control your choices. The only choices he can control are his own. He’s chosen this industry to make a career in and this is the nature of the industry. He, at this time, has more choices than you do.

You don't know what industry I am in.

I am middle aged now, but when I was young I saved money by, among other things, severely limiting how often I ate out... but in the few times I did (sometimes yes, because I had to) I did tip.

From the service industry professional's viewpoint, the math just doesn't work without tips. I was a bartender and server when I was younger, and delivery drivers are no different be it Uber or others.

If you don't tip them, there is no point in their jobs, financially.

So what is really entitled is to expect someone to serve you, deliver your food or make your drinks, or clean up after you and do it while LOSING money, ok?

I feel for you, I really do - you’ve led a tough life. But consider this,
First, You’re being paid 12-14 or 16-25 dollars an hour(depending on the delivery service) to pick food up from the restaurant and drop food off at PP’s home - no more and no less, and you’re guaranteed a specific wage by the delivery service. If tips don’t cover it they are legally obligated to pay you that amount - this is important to note.. Now, compare this to the cook at the restaurant who makes the food and gets 10/hr. The restaurant does not have the deep pockets Amazon and ubereats have. Compare this to the similarly paid registered nurse or even a babysitter, who cleans their patients/babies up when they soil themselves. They and people like them work really hard, and do plenty of unpleasant things, with no expectation of tips unless they go over and above their mandate.

Second, the only reason you think the industry doesn’t work without tips is because the industry is exploiting you. You cannot put this on the customer.

You compared a babysitter or Uber Eats to the profession of a Registered Nurse??

RN pay starts at 16/hr which is less than what an Amazon driver makes. Heck it’s less than what a garbage pickup person makes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tipping implies a service done above and beyond expectations, not simply done. As for people complaining that servers don’t make enough, well take it up with their employer. I will support a living wage for employees no problem and tip for outstanding service. I won’t simply tip in order that an employer can continue to abrogate his/her responsibility to the employee.

Don't go eat in the restaurant or order from these types of services then.

No, that’s not right. The company offers a service and quotes a price for it. You choose to work fir that company and so are part of the service provided. If the customer chooses to tip you, that is his decision. It’s when you feel entitled to a tip, or make statements like “if you can’t tip me you don’t deserve to eat here” that you begin to go wrong. You should instead be telling the company “if you can’t pay me a living wage, you don’t deserve to have me as an employee”. By not valuing yourself, you’re only enabling predation by these companies. Drivers have started to confront these companies in the past few years which is why things are now better than they used to be.

The irony. By continuing to eat in a restaurant and not tip the waitstaff, you're still helping the owners but stiffing the waiter. YOU are part of the problem of the exploitation too then.