I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the type of thread usually found in the MD or VA forums, not DC schools.

My guess is that many of the folks offended by the subject of the event live in the suburbs.

True, but there are some Trump Admin and right-wing thinktank folk who have kids in DCPS.

PP here, I haven't encountered them in my EOTP neighborhood, but you're probably right.

if you’re on the Hill, you just don’t know where to look. They are here but stay undergound

PP here, I doubt they're in my NW EOTP, majority minority neighborhood. We're in a very liberal bubble, for better or worse.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I think asking questions does not make me a racist. Maybe we need to change the rules/laws much as the way communities are doing with policing, which is fine. But I think there should be discussions about why public schools need to hold exclusive events and the details worked out. Of course, DCPS could just add that all students are invited to attend, which is a practical and easy way to solve this particular problem. Doesn't mean that schools and other public institutions won't need to discuss similar issues in the future. I am not a racist because I favor discussion instead of automatic approval.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus, you people are embarrassing. These initiatives are not new (2015 at least), and they are designed to try to empower and boost achievement for groups that have historically have been left behind. I believe Obama's My Brother's Keeper initiative was part of the inspiration.

You people complain that Black communities don't do enough to address problems in their own community and then get angry when we try to direct resources toward our children designed to do exactly that.

This is true but at least some of the school-based initiatives have expanded from exclusivity to include '& allies." The adults organizing these events should consider the impact on all of the children. The kids probably see the inherent separation as problematic and say something especially since much of the DCPS curriculum is centered around civil rights.

oh ffs.

You can ffs all you want but it's true. And it turns out that a lot of kids need to feel connected and not all kids of color participate in these kinds of events because they don't need additional empowerment. I'm glad this exists but my black kids aren't interested and don't feel like they need to participate for empowerment even if some adults are telling them they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Make way. Step back. Move aside. Please let them through to the front of the line. Then what?

Then... equity.

And your privilege is gone.

Its scary. Deep breaths... or Frederick MD

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do all POC kids get included or is it only Black kids?

Bump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I think asking questions does not make me a racist. Maybe we need to change the rules/laws much as the way communities are doing with policing, which is fine. But I think there should be discussions about why public schools need to hold exclusive events and the details worked out. Of course, DCPS could just add that all students are invited to attend, which is a practical and easy way to solve this particular problem. Doesn't mean that schools and other public institutions won't need to discuss similar issues in the future. I am not a racist because I favor discussion instead of automatic approval.

well what questions are you asking, and why? do you feel offended by this? why? do you think black kids have a right to specially designed programs? does your white child want to attend the black empowerment seminar, or do they want a white empowerment seminar?

these are all questions you could answer and we will decide how racist you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, you people are embarrassing. These initiatives are not new (2015 at least), and they are designed to try to empower and boost achievement for groups that have historically have been left behind. I believe Obama's My Brother's Keeper initiative was part of the inspiration.

You people complain that Black communities don't do enough to address problems in their own community and then get angry when we try to direct resources toward our children designed to do exactly that.

This is true but at least some of the school-based initiatives have expanded from exclusivity to include '& allies." The adults organizing these events should consider the impact on all of the children. The kids probably see the inherent separation as problematic and say something especially since much of the DCPS curriculum is centered around civil rights.

oh ffs.

You can ffs all you want but it's true. And it turns out that a lot of kids need to feel connected and not all kids of color participate in these kinds of events because they don't need additional empowerment. I'm glad this exists but my black kids aren't interested and don't feel like they need to participate for empowerment even if some adults are telling them they do.

ok so your specific complaint is that white kids will feel excluded and not all black kids need to be empowered. therefore there should be no events tailored for children of color due to the possible harm to white kids and rich black kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make way. Step back. Move aside. Please let them through to the front of the line. Then what?

Then... equity.

And your privilege is gone.

Its scary. Deep breaths... or Frederick MD

Its not equity when people get to the front that don't know what to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make way. Step back. Move aside. Please let them through to the front of the line. Then what?

Then... equity.

And your privilege is gone.

Its scary. Deep breaths... or Frederick MD

Its not equity when people get to the front that don't know what to do with it.

lol. says the community college grad who thinks he’s smarter than the black “affirmative action” astrophysics phd.

mediocre white dudes have been at the front of the line foreverrrrr

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think asking questions about this event makes anybody a racist. That is crazy and throwing around the term so casually really makes it difficult for people to engage in a meaningful conversation.

I mean, what do you want to discuss? The finer legal points about how you could bring a reverse discrimination lawsuit? The need to block black kids from getting support tailored to their lives? The fact that your white child feels excluded? You want a White Empowerment seminar for your child?

About the ONLY thing people of good will have to discuss here is the fact that DCPS would be well-advised to add an asterisk “all are welcome” to deal with the new “concerned” citizens, and hope for the best there is no trolling or disruption.

Is anyone suggesting blocking Black kids from these opportunities? Why not extend the invitation to every child? Why perpetuate the division?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, you people are embarrassing. These initiatives are not new (2015 at least), and they are designed to try to empower and boost achievement for groups that have historically have been left behind. I believe Obama's My Brother's Keeper initiative was part of the inspiration.

You people complain that Black communities don't do enough to address problems in their own community and then get angry when we try to direct resources toward our children designed to do exactly that.

This is true but at least some of the school-based initiatives have expanded from exclusivity to include '& allies." The adults organizing these events should consider the impact on all of the children. The kids probably see the inherent separation as problematic and say something especially since much of the DCPS curriculum is centered around civil rights.

oh ffs.

You can ffs all you want but it's true. And it turns out that a lot of kids need to feel connected and not all kids of color participate in these kinds of events because they don't need additional empowerment. I'm glad this exists but my black kids aren't interested and don't feel like they need to participate for empowerment even if some adults are telling them they do.

ok so your specific complaint is that white kids will feel excluded and not all black kids need to be empowered. therefore there should be no events tailored for children of color due to the possible harm to white kids and rich black kids.

No, my complaint is that no where does it say "All students welcome." I wouldn't have (although some on here probably would) complained even if they put it in a tiny font at the bottom of the announcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, you people are embarrassing. These initiatives are not new (2015 at least), and they are designed to try to empower and boost achievement for groups that have historically have been left behind. I believe Obama's My Brother's Keeper initiative was part of the inspiration.

You people complain that Black communities don't do enough to address problems in their own community and then get angry when we try to direct resources toward our children designed to do exactly that.

This is true but at least some of the school-based initiatives have expanded from exclusivity to include '& allies." The adults organizing these events should consider the impact on all of the children. The kids probably see the inherent separation as problematic and say something especially since much of the DCPS curriculum is centered around civil rights.

oh ffs.

You can ffs all you want but it's true. And it turns out that a lot of kids need to feel connected and not all kids of color participate in these kinds of events because they don't need additional empowerment. I'm glad this exists but my black kids aren't interested and don't feel like they need to participate for empowerment even if some adults are telling them they do.

ok so your specific complaint is that white kids will feel excluded and not all black kids need to be empowered. therefore there should be no events tailored for children of color due to the possible harm to white kids and rich black kids.

No, my complaint is that no where does it say "All students welcome." I wouldn't have (although some on here probably would) complained even if they put it in a tiny font at the bottom of the announcement.

And why exactly do you think that’s important?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think asking questions about this event makes anybody a racist. That is crazy and throwing around the term so casually really makes it difficult for people to engage in a meaningful conversation.

I mean, what do you want to discuss? The finer legal points about how you could bring a reverse discrimination lawsuit? The need to block black kids from getting support tailored to their lives? The fact that your white child feels excluded? You want a White Empowerment seminar for your child?

About the ONLY thing people of good will have to discuss here is the fact that DCPS would be well-advised to add an asterisk “all are welcome” to deal with the new “concerned” citizens, and hope for the best there is no trolling or disruption.

Is anyone suggesting blocking Black kids from these opportunities? Why not extend the invitation to every child? Why perpetuate the division?

The large majority of black/brown kids in DCPS are from economically disadvantaged backgrounds. Given this, targeting these specific groups for outreach seems reasonable. Why target those who don't need to be targeted (e.g., your white, afflluent kid)?

[Anonymous]

I'm done with this "all lives matter" OP. You don't want to hear the many reasons why programs like this selectively address historically disadvantaged groups. Just stay mad and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus, you people are embarrassing. These initiatives are not new (2015 at least), and they are designed to try to empower and boost achievement for groups that have historically have been left behind. I believe Obama's My Brother's Keeper initiative was part of the inspiration.

You people complain that Black communities don't do enough to address problems in their own community and then get angry when we try to direct resources toward our children designed to do exactly that.

This is true but at least some of the school-based initiatives have expanded from exclusivity to include '& allies." The adults organizing these events should consider the impact on all of the children. The kids probably see the inherent separation as problematic and say something especially since much of the DCPS curriculum is centered around civil rights.

oh ffs.

You can ffs all you want but it's true. And it turns out that a lot of kids need to feel connected and not all kids of color participate in these kinds of events because they don't need additional empowerment. I'm glad this exists but my black kids aren't interested and don't feel like they need to participate for empowerment even if some adults are telling them they do.

ok so your specific complaint is that white kids will feel excluded and not all black kids need to be empowered. therefore there should be no events tailored for children of color due to the possible harm to white kids and rich black kids.

No, my complaint is that no where does it say "All students welcome." I wouldn't have (although some on here probably would) complained even if they put it in a tiny font at the bottom of the announcement.

And why exactly do you think that’s important?

I'm tired of this circular jerk; I am satisfied with my point and am moving on.