Anyone feel judged if they shop at a white owned business instead of black owned right now?

[Anonymous]

Only an attention seeking narcissistic SJW poser would shame someone for this. ALL businesses (other than Amazon) need support now, so ignore these fools and shop where you want.

[Anonymous]

What bothers me is knowing that all the virtue-signalers shopping at black-owned businesses today will, in all likelihood, forget about it in a few months and return to their usual shopping patterns.

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Anonymous wrote:What seems fake to you about supporting black-owned businesses?

It's called performative white allyship.

Yep. Same thing as when white people respond with vitriol when someone asks how they can support BLM. I see it all the time on FB. You have these mostly white women attack the person, saying "it's not POC's job to do that! It's traumatic emotional labor!!"

Then a POC will often chime in, saying, "It's actually no problem. Here are some resources."

It's this performative self-flagellation that comes from white guilt. It crosses the line from being supportive to being in the territory of "doth protest too much."

Thanks. There are times when white people should just shut up. Listen twice as much as you speak....

WTF with this “BIPOC” stuff? Stupid sounding, inaccurate made up name. Only Native Americans are “indigenous” to this country.

No no no.

Yes, sometimes white people need to shut up. But this idea that white people can NEVER SPEAK is asininely stupid and counterproductive.

It reminds me of the NAACP thread recently. A white person asked if she can go to an NAACP meeting. Someone replied, saying "yes, but don't speak." Another said "white people shouldn't take up that space."

I had to remind them that the NAACP was co-founded by white people. Finally the 1st VP of the DC chapter came on and said "it goes without saying that white people are more than welcome. We have a white person who heads a committee."

Who said never speak? Just don't speak as much. You run all over the space of BIPOC who NEED to be heard. You just always need to be in charge of everything. And that's not what this is about.

[Anonymous]

It wouldn't occur to me to feel judged by those interactions. I would feel pressured but not judged. OP, do what you want to do.

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Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is knowing that all the virtue-signalers shopping at black-owned businesses today will, in all likelihood, forget about it in a few months and return to their usual shopping patterns.

Very likely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What seems fake to you about supporting black-owned businesses?

It's called performative white allyship.

Yep. Same thing as when white people respond with vitriol when someone asks how they can support BLM. I see it all the time on FB. You have these mostly white women attack the person, saying "it's not POC's job to do that! It's traumatic emotional labor!!"

Then a POC will often chime in, saying, "It's actually no problem. Here are some resources."

It's this performative self-flagellation that comes from white guilt. It crosses the line from being supportive to being in the territory of "doth protest too much."

Thanks. There are times when white people should just shut up. Listen twice as much as you speak....

No no no.

Yes, sometimes white people need to shut up. But this idea that white people can NEVER SPEAK is asininely stupid and counterproductive.

It reminds me of the NAACP thread recently. A white person asked if she can go to an NAACP meeting. Someone replied, saying "yes, but don't speak." Another said "white people shouldn't take up that space."

I had to remind them that the NAACP was co-founded by white people. Finally the 1st VP of the DC chapter came on and said "it goes without saying that white people are more than welcome. We have a white person who heads a committee."

Who said never speak? Just don't speak as much. You run all over the space of BIPOC who NEED to be heard. You just always need to be in charge of everything. And that's not what this is about.

JFC. You really seriously miss the point.

Did WEB DuBois tell Mary Ovington to STFU and let him have the majority of the voice? No. She and her colleagues approached him and his colleagues with the idea for the NAACP. They worked together in an equal capacity.

Read and learn:

In 1908, a deadly race riot rocked the city of Springfield, the capital of Illinois and resting place of President Abraham Lincoln. Such eruptions of anti-black violence – particularly lynching – were horrifically commonplace, but the Springfield riot was the final tipping point that led to the creation of the NAACP. Appalled at this rampant violence, a group of white liberals that included Mary White Ovington and Oswald Garrison Villard (both the descendants of famous abolitionists), William English Walling and Dr. Henry Moscowitz issued a call for a meeting to discuss racial justice. Some 60 people, seven of whom were African American (including W. E. B. Du Bois, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, and Mary Church Terrell), signed the call, which was released on the centennial of Lincoln’s birth.

https://www.naacp.org/nations-premier-civil-rights-organization/

Nope. I'm talking about today. Not 100 years ago.

I'm talking about social media.

Completely different beast where white people can just post and repost away and take comfort thinking they are actually making change.

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Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is knowing that all the virtue-signalers shopping at black-owned businesses today will, in all likelihood, forget about it in a few months and return to their usual shopping patterns.

I don't get this worry. The highlighting of black-owned businesses only get customers to the door. The true staying power depends on the quality of the product. If it's good, customers will come back for more, same as any other business.

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Anonymous wrote:What seems fake to you about supporting black-owned businesses?

It's called performative white allyship.

Yep. Same thing as when white people respond with vitriol when someone asks how they can support BLM. I see it all the time on FB. You have these mostly white women attack the person, saying "it's not POC's job to do that! It's traumatic emotional labor!!"

Then a POC will often chime in, saying, "It's actually no problem. Here are some resources."

It's this performative self-flagellation that comes from white guilt. It crosses the line from being supportive to being in the territory of "doth protest too much."

Thanks. There are times when white people should just shut up. Listen twice as much as you speak....

No no no.

Yes, sometimes white people need to shut up. But this idea that white people can NEVER SPEAK is asininely stupid and counterproductive.

It reminds me of the NAACP thread recently. A white person asked if she can go to an NAACP meeting. Someone replied, saying "yes, but don't speak." Another said "white people shouldn't take up that space."

I had to remind them that the NAACP was co-founded by white people. Finally the 1st VP of the DC chapter came on and said "it goes without saying that white people are more than welcome. We have a white person who heads a committee."

Who said never speak? Just don't speak as much. You run all over the space of BIPOC who NEED to be heard. You just always need to be in charge of everything. And that's not what this is about.

JFC. You really seriously miss the point.

Did WEB DuBois tell Mary Ovington to STFU and let him have the majority of the voice? No. She and her colleagues approached him and his colleagues with the idea for the NAACP. They worked together in an equal capacity.

Read and learn:

In 1908, a deadly race riot rocked the city of Springfield, the capital of Illinois and resting place of President Abraham Lincoln. Such eruptions of anti-black violence – particularly lynching – were horrifically commonplace, but the Springfield riot was the final tipping point that led to the creation of the NAACP. Appalled at this rampant violence, a group of white liberals that included Mary White Ovington and Oswald Garrison Villard (both the descendants of famous abolitionists), William English Walling and Dr. Henry Moscowitz issued a call for a meeting to discuss racial justice. Some 60 people, seven of whom were African American (including W. E. B. Du Bois, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, and Mary Church Terrell), signed the call, which was released on the centennial of Lincoln’s birth.

https://www.naacp.org/nations-premier-civil-rights-organization/

Nope. I'm talking about today. Not 100 years ago.

I'm talking about social media.

Completely different beast where white people can just post and repost away and take comfort thinking they are actually making change.

We're not talking about social media. We're talking about actual meetings. Why do you think white people have no ability to work equally with POC, if they were able to actually initiate the creation of the NAACP?

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Anonymous wrote:This has to be a troll post. I do not know the owners of many of the businesses I frequent. I see the workers, but not necessarily the owners unless I’m walking into a 7-Eleven or something. Also it’s just a weird conversation to have. Where did you buy such and such, is the owner of Black?

I think places like 711 and other franchise type places are hard/impossible to know without asking, sure. But lots of smaller places are easy to know the owner. I know the owner or know who the owner is at most of the local restaurants in my town as well as most of the shops.

I do know that every McDonald's in my town is owned by the Van Valkenburg family. I see the sticker that says so on the window along with an email address to contact them.

[Anonymous]

This sounds reactionary and racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is knowing that all the virtue-signalers shopping at black-owned businesses today will, in all likelihood, forget about it in a few months and return to their usual shopping patterns.

I don't know. It might depend on the person.

I'm a good example.

When all of the Starbucks in my town closed during the pandemic, I tried my local coffee shop for the first time since moving here. I found out that not only was it much cheaper than Starbucks, but the drinks were much better as well. I'm a convert.

My sister dropped off a late bday gift to me last Thursday and brought me a Starbucks since it was their BOGO day. I had a hard time drinking it after having my local shop since April.

I have $30+ and 574 stars on my Starbucks account just sitting there now.

[Anonymous]

There are 4 fortune 500 ceos who are black. Four.*
Lowe's is one of them, and during the protests, Lowe's ceo ellison put out a personal statement about growing up black in the south and about investing in minority business.

*And they're all men of course but that's a separate issue

[Anonymous]

no

I don't apologize for skin color or use it as an excuse. I go to shops (like shopping locally) that offers me what I need.

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Anonymous wrote:This worries me less than people who are spending $5k at Home Depot rather than Lowe’s.

Why? I just ordered $2000+ worth of stuff at Lowes.

For starters Lowe’s has better prices. HD keeps giving money to trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:no

I don't apologize for skin color or use it as an excuse. I go to shops (like shopping locally) that offers me what I need.

Are you black?