Anyone feel judged if they shop at a white owned business instead of black owned right now?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone in our neighborhood organized a food pick up for anyone interested, from a black owned restaurant in DC. I ordered dinner for my family. The food was supposed to be ready at 5:30 - it wasn’t ready until 7:30, one of my items was missing, and the food we got wasn’t very good. So no, I will not be choosing based upon the race of the owner. Didn’t really go well for us.

In the middle of the pandemic I ordered food from the Cheesecake Factory (not a fan, but the kid wanted it), food showed up 2 hours late, was cold, 2 of the items were missing, french fries and the cheese cake.

I called to complain, was told buy the white girl who answered the phone and the white manager, that it wasn't their fault, blamed it on the delivery driver, said they probably ate the food. When I suggested that perhaps, due to the unusual circumstances that they made a mistake, they replied no, not us. Blamed, their incompetence on the delivery guy who just so happened to be black, and apparently a thief.

You would think that the big corporate guys, with the resources to hire/retain competent staff, would have been able to figure out how to get it right, but no. Just a bunch of incompetent idiots.

How exactly did you determine the skin color of TWO employees ON the phone? Face Time? Also, was the female with whom you spoke 12 or younger? Assuming because you referred to her as a "girl" that she must be a child. I'm certain you meant "woman" or better yet, "employee."



I could tell you how I known, but because you are asking the question, you wouldn't understand. Hypervigilance, is a fact of life for a lot of black people in the US, we know. I know she was a female and I know she was a teenager, also something you can figure out by the voice, tone, resonance, pitch, timber, and a lot of other subtle clues. So yes she was a young, yes she, was white and was a female. If you have no other response to my post, other than to attack it on "semantics" to you, observations to me, then you might have some other deeper issues that you should examine.

PP and I’m calling you out on your hostility and inappropriate language. It is inappropriate and demeaning to call an adult female employee “a girl.”

Replace black with white in your little tirade above and re-read. As a wise man once said —and I’m paraphrasing here—I judge people by the content of their character (and I’ll add, heart) and I choose to believe that our world needs more understanding and reason and dare I say, kindness.

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Anonymous wrote:How the hell would I know if the owner is black or other. If I need/like what you're selling than I'm buying.

This isn't something that's difficult to find out, if you see it as important. Many people don't and that's their prerogative, but you and others claiming this is some kind of mystery or would take up far too much of your time sound more willfully ignorant than anything else. No one is saying you have to, it's just not at all difficult to figure out if you choose to.

The other night I wanted to order sushi and also wanted to support a Black-owned restaurant. Unfortunately, both could not be accomplished with the same order (at least in my area), so I enjoyed my sushi. Maybe next time it'll go another way.

Yeah, no. I'm not going to feel shty about supporting my Greek-owned local taco place. For a bunch of Greeks, they make awesome tacos.

You sound nuts. Nobody is asking you to feel shitty about supporting Greek and taco places, nobody said every meal should be from a black owned business.

the leaps people make when somebody asks to support a business is insane. Why the ire and deflection? You can't find 1 black owned business to support every now and again... that is literally insane.

I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them.

Why am I nuts? This entire thread is about shaming people for not going out of their way to support black businesses.

Wut? You can't find 1 black business that has a "good product"?

You are nuts because this is not about shaming people, it's about saying to be conscious of black businesses and support them when you can. It's no different than saying "buy local" ... what is insane is that you literally think saying "buy from a black business" is shaming and saying "buy local" is not.

First of all, I never said I can't find one. I said I'm not going to support a black owned business just because it's black owned, if the product isn't good.

Also, did you read the OP? The entire thing is about her being shamed for not supporting black owned businesses.

Nobody asked you to go to a place with a bad product.

If I said, support your local business do you say "no, im not buying a bad product"... but you say that when asked to buy at a black business... I know you don't see how f'd up your way of thinking is, but it is. Hopefully one day you will see it.

No, she was not shamed, she decided they were shaming her... but they were not. Just like if they said buy local and she decided to have Amazon deliver, was she shamed, no. But all of a sudden, it's black owned business so she is making up the "being shamed" part. Nobody said, shame on you.

They absolutely were shaming her, but you're just going to see what you want to see. Just like you decided I had somehow assessed that there are no black businesses with good products.

No they absolutely did not shame her. Just like if I say support breast cancer and you support leukemia, I am not shaming you. Or I say support the baseball team and you support the football team, I'm not shaming you.

Also you are the one that said I am not buying from a black owned business because I only buy good products. But now that we cleared up that was my bias, I would love to hear what product you found at a black owned business that you love... I'd love to support them too.

I'll give you the 2nd example, but how is this not shaming: " I was talking with a friend and mentioned I went to a local shop on Saturday to pick up a gift. She asked if I had missed her FB post about black owned businesses in our town. I said I hadn’t but I knew exactly what I needed and that they had it based on their Instagram. She just said” hm” and moved on."

Also I did not say "I don't support black businesses because I only buy good products." I said this, "I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them." Stop twisting my words.

So every time somebody says Hm they are judging you.

Glad you will now be supporting black businesses now that we both understand they have great products and services to offer.

I never said they didn't! JFC, what is your problem?! I said the race of the owner isn't the criterion I use; the quality of the product is. Can you read?

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Anonymous wrote:I support going to black doctors, to counter the discrimination from those who won't use them

OMG my grandmother broke her hip when my mom was traveling and she requested a white doctor at a DC hospital, then told me... make sure her doctor is white. Of course they did not honor the request, that would be insane. Who knew that was even a thing... welp it is!

Yep. Apparently that's where we are now.

Great!

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Anonymous wrote:I support going to black doctors, to counter the discrimination from those who won't use them

OMG my grandmother broke her hip when my mom was traveling and she requested a white doctor at a DC hospital, then told me... make sure her doctor is white. Of course they did not honor the request, that would be insane. Who knew that was even a thing... welp it is!

My (black) DH internist would occasionally get this. But what was worse was when the patient constantly criticized him, and spoke negatively about him, but wouldn't criticize a white doctor doing the same things.

He also once had to treat a notorious KKK member. But he kept to his principles to treat every patient the same way as he would treat the Queen of England.

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Anonymous wrote:How the hell would I know if the owner is black or other. If I need/like what you're selling than I'm buying.

This isn't something that's difficult to find out, if you see it as important. Many people don't and that's their prerogative, but you and others claiming this is some kind of mystery or would take up far too much of your time sound more willfully ignorant than anything else. No one is saying you have to, it's just not at all difficult to figure out if you choose to.

The other night I wanted to order sushi and also wanted to support a Black-owned restaurant. Unfortunately, both could not be accomplished with the same order (at least in my area), so I enjoyed my sushi. Maybe next time it'll go another way.

Yeah, no. I'm not going to feel shty about supporting my Greek-owned local taco place. For a bunch of Greeks, they make awesome tacos.

You sound nuts. Nobody is asking you to feel shitty about supporting Greek and taco places, nobody said every meal should be from a black owned business.

the leaps people make when somebody asks to support a business is insane. Why the ire and deflection? You can't find 1 black owned business to support every now and again... that is literally insane.

I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them.

Why am I nuts? This entire thread is about shaming people for not going out of their way to support black businesses.

Wut? You can't find 1 black business that has a "good product"?

You are nuts because this is not about shaming people, it's about saying to be conscious of black businesses and support them when you can. It's no different than saying "buy local" ... what is insane is that you literally think saying "buy from a black business" is shaming and saying "buy local" is not.

First of all, I never said I can't find one. I said I'm not going to support a black owned business just because it's black owned, if the product isn't good.

Also, did you read the OP? The entire thing is about her being shamed for not supporting black owned businesses.

Nobody asked you to go to a place with a bad product.

If I said, support your local business do you say "no, im not buying a bad product"... but you say that when asked to buy at a black business... I know you don't see how f'd up your way of thinking is, but it is. Hopefully one day you will see it.

No, she was not shamed, she decided they were shaming her... but they were not. Just like if they said buy local and she decided to have Amazon deliver, was she shamed, no. But all of a sudden, it's black owned business so she is making up the "being shamed" part. Nobody said, shame on you.

They absolutely were shaming her, but you're just going to see what you want to see. Just like you decided I had somehow assessed that there are no black businesses with good products.

No they absolutely did not shame her. Just like if I say support breast cancer and you support leukemia, I am not shaming you. Or I say support the baseball team and you support the football team, I'm not shaming you.

Also you are the one that said I am not buying from a black owned business because I only buy good products. But now that we cleared up that was my bias, I would love to hear what product you found at a black owned business that you love... I'd love to support them too.

I'll give you the 2nd example, but how is this not shaming: " I was talking with a friend and mentioned I went to a local shop on Saturday to pick up a gift. She asked if I had missed her FB post about black owned businesses in our town. I said I hadn’t but I knew exactly what I needed and that they had it based on their Instagram. She just said” hm” and moved on."

Also I did not say "I don't support black businesses because I only buy good products." I said this, "I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them." Stop twisting my words.

So every time somebody says Hm they are judging you.

Glad you will now be supporting black businesses now that we both understand they have great products and services to offer.

I never said they didn't! JFC, what is your problem?! I said the race of the owner isn't the criterion I use; the quality of the product is. Can you read?

You said you only buy good products. You say black owners do make good products. So you will buy from a black owned business. Great, do share what you buy.

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Anonymous wrote:I support going to black doctors, to counter the discrimination from those who won't use them

OMG my grandmother broke her hip when my mom was traveling and she requested a white doctor at a DC hospital, then told me... make sure her doctor is white. Of course they did not honor the request, that would be insane. Who knew that was even a thing... welp it is!

My (black) DH internist would occasionally get this. But what was worse was when the patient constantly criticized him, and spoke negatively about him, but wouldn't criticize a white doctor doing the same things.

He also once had to treat a notorious KKK member. But he kept to his principles to treat every patient the same way as he would treat the Queen of England.

I'm sure he could write a tome full of stories.

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Anonymous wrote:How the hell would I know if the owner is black or other. If I need/like what you're selling than I'm buying.

This isn't something that's difficult to find out, if you see it as important. Many people don't and that's their prerogative, but you and others claiming this is some kind of mystery or would take up far too much of your time sound more willfully ignorant than anything else. No one is saying you have to, it's just not at all difficult to figure out if you choose to.

The other night I wanted to order sushi and also wanted to support a Black-owned restaurant. Unfortunately, both could not be accomplished with the same order (at least in my area), so I enjoyed my sushi. Maybe next time it'll go another way.

Yeah, no. I'm not going to feel shty about supporting my Greek-owned local taco place. For a bunch of Greeks, they make awesome tacos.

You sound nuts. Nobody is asking you to feel shitty about supporting Greek and taco places, nobody said every meal should be from a black owned business.

the leaps people make when somebody asks to support a business is insane. Why the ire and deflection? You can't find 1 black owned business to support every now and again... that is literally insane.

I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them.

Why am I nuts? This entire thread is about shaming people for not going out of their way to support black businesses.

Wut? You can't find 1 black business that has a "good product"?

You are nuts because this is not about shaming people, it's about saying to be conscious of black businesses and support them when you can. It's no different than saying "buy local" ... what is insane is that you literally think saying "buy from a black business" is shaming and saying "buy local" is not.

First of all, I never said I can't find one. I said I'm not going to support a black owned business just because it's black owned, if the product isn't good.

Also, did you read the OP? The entire thing is about her being shamed for not supporting black owned businesses.

Nobody asked you to go to a place with a bad product.

If I said, support your local business do you say "no, im not buying a bad product"... but you say that when asked to buy at a black business... I know you don't see how f'd up your way of thinking is, but it is. Hopefully one day you will see it.

No, she was not shamed, she decided they were shaming her... but they were not. Just like if they said buy local and she decided to have Amazon deliver, was she shamed, no. But all of a sudden, it's black owned business so she is making up the "being shamed" part. Nobody said, shame on you.

They absolutely were shaming her, but you're just going to see what you want to see. Just like you decided I had somehow assessed that there are no black businesses with good products.

No they absolutely did not shame her. Just like if I say support breast cancer and you support leukemia, I am not shaming you. Or I say support the baseball team and you support the football team, I'm not shaming you.

Also you are the one that said I am not buying from a black owned business because I only buy good products. But now that we cleared up that was my bias, I would love to hear what product you found at a black owned business that you love... I'd love to support them too.

I'll give you the 2nd example, but how is this not shaming: " I was talking with a friend and mentioned I went to a local shop on Saturday to pick up a gift. She asked if I had missed her FB post about black owned businesses in our town. I said I hadn’t but I knew exactly what I needed and that they had it based on their Instagram. She just said” hm” and moved on."

Also I did not say "I don't support black businesses because I only buy good products." I said this, "I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them." Stop twisting my words.

So every time somebody says Hm they are judging you.

Glad you will now be supporting black businesses now that we both understand they have great products and services to offer.

I never said they didn't! JFC, what is your problem?! I said the race of the owner isn't the criterion I use; the quality of the product is. Can you read?

You said you only buy good products. You say black owners do make good products. So you will buy from a black owned business. Great, do share what you buy.

I also buy only good products. Left-handed owners do make good products. So I will buy from a left-handed owned business. Should I share what I buy?

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this is the craziest, most ludacris thing I've read on here today.

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Anonymous wrote:this is the craziest, most ludacris thing I've read on here today.

Leave Lidacris outta this!

Ludicrous

Borrowing from my favorite forum and will say;

Oh, dear.

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Anonymous wrote:How the hell would I know if the owner is black or other. If I need/like what you're selling than I'm buying.

This isn't something that's difficult to find out, if you see it as important. Many people don't and that's their prerogative, but you and others claiming this is some kind of mystery or would take up far too much of your time sound more willfully ignorant than anything else. No one is saying you have to, it's just not at all difficult to figure out if you choose to.

The other night I wanted to order sushi and also wanted to support a Black-owned restaurant. Unfortunately, both could not be accomplished with the same order (at least in my area), so I enjoyed my sushi. Maybe next time it'll go another way.

Yeah, no. I'm not going to feel shty about supporting my Greek-owned local taco place. For a bunch of Greeks, they make awesome tacos.

You sound nuts. Nobody is asking you to feel shitty about supporting Greek and taco places, nobody said every meal should be from a black owned business.

the leaps people make when somebody asks to support a business is insane. Why the ire and deflection? You can't find 1 black owned business to support every now and again... that is literally insane.

I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them.

Why am I nuts? This entire thread is about shaming people for not going out of their way to support black businesses.

Wut? You can't find 1 black business that has a "good product"?

You are nuts because this is not about shaming people, it's about saying to be conscious of black businesses and support them when you can. It's no different than saying "buy local" ... what is insane is that you literally think saying "buy from a black business" is shaming and saying "buy local" is not.

First of all, I never said I can't find one. I said I'm not going to support a black owned business just because it's black owned, if the product isn't good.

Also, did you read the OP? The entire thing is about her being shamed for not supporting black owned businesses.

Nobody asked you to go to a place with a bad product.

If I said, support your local business do you say "no, im not buying a bad product"... but you say that when asked to buy at a black business... I know you don't see how f'd up your way of thinking is, but it is. Hopefully one day you will see it.

No, she was not shamed, she decided they were shaming her... but they were not. Just like if they said buy local and she decided to have Amazon deliver, was she shamed, no. But all of a sudden, it's black owned business so she is making up the "being shamed" part. Nobody said, shame on you.

They absolutely were shaming her, but you're just going to see what you want to see. Just like you decided I had somehow assessed that there are no black businesses with good products.

No they absolutely did not shame her. Just like if I say support breast cancer and you support leukemia, I am not shaming you. Or I say support the baseball team and you support the football team, I'm not shaming you.

Also you are the one that said I am not buying from a black owned business because I only buy good products. But now that we cleared up that was my bias, I would love to hear what product you found at a black owned business that you love... I'd love to support them too.

I'll give you the 2nd example, but how is this not shaming: " I was talking with a friend and mentioned I went to a local shop on Saturday to pick up a gift. She asked if I had missed her FB post about black owned businesses in our town. I said I hadn’t but I knew exactly what I needed and that they had it based on their Instagram. She just said” hm” and moved on."

Also I did not say "I don't support black businesses because I only buy good products." I said this, "I'm not going to support them just because they're black. Do they have good products? Then sure, I'll buy them." Stop twisting my words.

So every time somebody says Hm they are judging you.

Glad you will now be supporting black businesses now that we both understand they have great products and services to offer.

I never said they didn't! JFC, what is your problem?! I said the race of the owner isn't the criterion I use; the quality of the product is. Can you read?

You said you only buy good products. You say black owners do make good products. So you will buy from a black owned business. Great, do share what you buy.

Yeah ... I never said otherwise.

But cool.

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I don't feel a single bit judged by anyone about my life choices.

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No I typically don't tell people where I shop or eat unless it's really good.

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Same. This isn’t on my radar at all. I shop wherever suits me.

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Anonymous wrote:I support going to black doctors, to counter the discrimination from those who won't use them

Our pediatrician and dentist are both AA. We’reAA, but I know from discussions with a couple white neighborhood families who use the same practices that they purposefully selected them to show their children black medical professionals.

Both of our pediatricians are Black women. We found them through referral. We are usually the only white family there. We didn’t actively seek out Black docs, but it’s not lost on us that it’s solid representation of intelligent and thoughtful Black women. She receives excellent care and as it’s also in an internationally diverse neighborhood meets kids from all over. Same for our daycare. It wasn’t intentional, but I’m happy she’s mixing with kids that are not mirror images.

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I don't apologize for skin color or use it as an excuse. I go to shops (like shopping locally) that offers me what I need.

Are you black?

nope

white