I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight

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Four murderers. Firing them is not enough.

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Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

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Anonymous wrote:As an African American, this video doesn’t even disturb me. It’s to the point that it’s so natural. White people hate black people. Always will.

Same.

Just look at this thread. We have this video of a man being slowly murdered by a cop, clear as day, and yet there are still posters willing to make excuses.

We have video of the jogger being ambushed and murdered by a group of vigilantes, and posters wanted to talk about his outfit and "wait for the facts."

We have a video of a white woman breaking the law and threatening the black man who had the audacity to confront her with a cop-altercation. We hear her pretend to be breathless and hysterical as she cries for law enforcement to rescue her from the scary black man who offered her dog a treat. And yet posters want to know what happened before, question his motives, and stomp their feet about being called Karen.

My life doesn't matter to you. I get it. I'm so damn tired of this.

Co-signing all of this. It’s exhausting.

Both of you are exhausting. Maybe you will have a different (and healthier) perspective if you stop living your life via social media.

There are almost a million cops in the US and you are basing your opinion of them on a half dozen videos that you saw on social media. Life and law enforcement incidents are rarely black and white. The people posting here have an agenda and zero actual LE experience. And if you disagree with them, they just call you names and continue their rant.

Go to Youtube and search racist police stops. Even if you choose not to watch, the sheer number of recorded racist LEO stops and interactions, shows the fallacy of your beliefs. You of course, will not do the search.

I do traffic stops pretty much every day. You, on the other hand, get your information by searching "police brutality" on YouTube. That's a big difference.

Not that pp and I can tell you that I do not have an agenda. That video was shocking to me. Is put your knee on a suspect's neck a legitimate police hold? I know that we don't know what led that officer to restrain him like that. Maybe he had been resisting them, I have no clue. But to actually kneel and put weight on his neck like that? I have a hard time believing that is the sort of thing taught in training.

Hell no! I've seen people put their shin on the side of someone's face to help control them, but never on their neck. You have to understand that you are dealing with people fighting you and you have to win.

But a lot of this stuff comes down to common sense. For example, even though it's against most dept policy to use a choke hold in non lethal force situations, you could put someone in a choke hold with very little pressure and not do any damage. This guy obviously doesn't know what he is doing. Even if he used a dumb tactic like putting pressure on someone's neck, it's hard to fathom why he didnt change position when he became unresponsive.

He purposely cut the man's airway off. What that officer did was indefensible and you can hear sincere, very real alarm in the voices of the bystanders (they knew that man was in trouble) while the other officers just ignored it. Unbelievable. Thankfully, they got that on tape.

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Anonymous wrote:As an African American, this video doesn’t even disturb me. It’s to the point that it’s so natural. White people hate black people. Always will.

Same.

Just look at this thread. We have this video of a man being slowly murdered by a cop, clear as day, and yet there are still posters willing to make excuses.

We have video of the jogger being ambushed and murdered by a group of vigilantes, and posters wanted to talk about his outfit and "wait for the facts."

We have a video of a white woman breaking the law and threatening the black man who had the audacity to confront her with a cop-altercation. We hear her pretend to be breathless and hysterical as she cries for law enforcement to rescue her from the scary black man who offered her dog a treat. And yet posters want to know what happened before, question his motives, and stomp their feet about being called Karen.

My life doesn't matter to you. I get it. I'm so damn tired of this.

Co-signing all of this. It’s exhausting.

Both of you are exhausting. Maybe you will have a different (and healthier) perspective if you stop living your life via social media.

There are almost a million cops in the US and you are basing your opinion of them on a half dozen videos that you saw on social media. Life and law enforcement incidents are rarely black and white. The people posting here have an agenda and zero actual LE experience. And if you disagree with them, they just call you names and continue their rant.

Go to Youtube and search racist police stops. Even if you choose not to watch, the sheer number of recorded racist LEO stops and interactions, shows the fallacy of your beliefs. You of course, will not do the search.

I do traffic stops pretty much every day. You, on the other hand, get your information by searching "police brutality" on YouTube. That's a big difference.

I don't get my information from the internet. I have LEO family. Driving while black is not a myth. Racism by police is more a norm than a outlier. Even the good cops are biased.

You do traffic stops? You must be young, still in the honeymoon stage of policing.

Either you are racist and biased and don't see it or you are still in the "but, but I'm saving the world" stage.

You'll learn, nobody will convince you though.

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Both of you are exhausting. Maybe you will have a different (and healthier) perspective if you stop living your life via social media.

There are almost a million cops in the US and you are basing your opinion of them on a half dozen videos that you saw on social media. Life and law enforcement incidents are rarely black and white. The people posting here have an agenda and zero actual LE experience. And if you disagree with them, they just call you names and continue their rant

NP here, and this is for the PP and any other cop or cop-adjacent lurker who is reading this thread. I do have sympathy for the non-racist cops. It must sting to be judged by the racist ones' behavior. But just "not being racist yourself" and "not having killed a Black person" is not the end of your obligation here. The bar is higher than that. Racism is systemic everywhere including in law enforcement, and clearly -- since we've been dealing with viral murders of Black men since Emmett Till -- public awareness isn't going to stop it. You want to be an actual good cop?

- Advocate for radical transparency. You know why we don't trust the police? Because you all close ranks around your "bad apples" 99% of the time. Stop it. Conduct your internal investigations transparently. Be open about what's going on. Maybe some sunlight will stop you from moving the cops who have a "tendency to use force too much with certain populations" to desk jobs or different precincts so they can keep their pensions.

- Advocate for systemic overhauls to root out the racism in your department. There is racism in your department. It's everywhere. Let people report it knowing they'll be supported by their higher ups. Create a culture where combating racism is taken seriously as a police value, and not as "a PC thing we have to do to appease the SJWs." Support real consequences for racism, even at the early stages, so it doesn't take root, fester and escalate.

- Advocate for the de-escalation of police generally. WTH are you all doing with discarded SWAT equipment and TANKS?! This isn't Call of Duty. You aren't military. Become a part of the population you are sworn to serve and protect. Study the effects of police de-escalation generally. Remember, your goal is not to "win" every encounter with your "authority." Your goal is to keep people safe. Keep your ego out of it, and for god's sake, send back the armored trucks.

There are so many more things you can actually do to address the problem. And if you do, I'm willing to bet that people will stop judging all cops by the ones who murder Black people. Stop patting yourself on the back for not being one of them, and redirect your energy to things that will make a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain to me why this cop did t proceed to put him in the car? What was he waiting for, in theory?

I think he was waiting to feel like the man he was kneeling on was well and truly subdued. He thought his authority had been questioned, and he wanted to demonstrate his dominance over this man.

Yes, the cop actually says something like, "You think your tough now.." or something like that. I don't want to watch it again to get exactly what he says, but he was clearly trying to make a point. I do hope he is charged and convicted for murder.

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Outrageous.

Police officers should not be allowed to kneel on anyone ever. Once someone is handcuffed, they are not a threat. Period.

There must be criminal charges for the cop who knelt on him as well as the one who stood nearby and watched.

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Anonymous wrote:Outrageous.

Police officers should not be allowed to kneel on anyone ever. Once someone is handcuffed, they are not a threat. Period.

There must be criminal charges for the cop who knelt on him as well as the one who stood nearby and watched.

Yes, it is beyond sickening. I also wondered why the officer's hands were in his pockets? That would seem to increase the pressure he was putting on George Floyd's neck. To me, the hands in the pockets gave an appearance of nonchalance, while a man suffocated to death.

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I just watched the WHOLE clip. He didn't just neal on him. He kept kneeling on him for minutes after the man stopped moving or breathing. This is absolutely and unequivocally murder in broad daylight. There were four cops there and they couldn't "subdue" this man safely? I hope they all rot in jail for the rest of their lives.

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So what happens now? Are charges forthcoming or will these cops simply be hired by another PD?

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Anonymous wrote:So what happens now? Are charges forthcoming or will these cops simply be hired by another PD?

What really happens is that no one will give a crap because it will be replaced by another black man next week. If we are lucky, next month.

[Anonymous]

This story disgusted me to the fullest.

We are all collectively dealing w/a horrific pandemic right now.
And still are dealing w/racism.....white police officers killing black people....??!

Oh when will this all stop??
I am not black, but am heartbroken over all these recent events showing the state of our country.

The victim in this case was specifically stating that he couldn’t breathe.
Both officers in attendance should have let the guy breathe.
Instead they abused their authority in order to satisfy their own sick, racial hatred.

I say, fire them immediately.
Prosecute, then convict them of first-degree murder & throw the book at them.
Life in prison.
No parole.

Or the death penalty since this is clearly a hate crime.