Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

Who cares. As long as elderly/sick aren’t at gym (gyms not exactly magnets for the unhealthy) it really doesn’t matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

Who cares. As long as elderly/sick aren’t at gym (gyms not exactly magnets for the unhealthy) it really doesn’t matter.

Essentially the message I’m hearing. “Who cares?” Not many. Our country is an embarrassment.

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Anonymous wrote:The reopenings haven't gone well in other states. Increases in cases and deaths, reclosures after places are overrun.

Temper your expectations.

Cite?

Omg. Shut it with the cite nonsense. No one knows and you’re being a pill.

I haven’t heard of GA nor FL seeing any significant spikes. And if so, it just means they’re testing more people. So it doesn’t even mean anything. You can be asymptomatic and still be positive and not even know it.

This is why it’s best to just open up and let people keep doing the social distancing thing like they’re doing now and keep it moving. We’re able to go to grocery stores here in the same manner, so there’s no difference at all. Just keep doing what you’re doing now when you go out.

Georgia is going up. Texas is going up.

They aren't social distancing anymore. They don't understand public health. Neither do you.

No one ever said they wouldnt go up. What they said is that they're not worried about overloading hospitals.

Then you like the look of the new 3000/day prediction? You want to aim for that by reopening?

Wow.

Keyword, prediction. If you want to abide by that, great. But all of their predictions have been horribly wrong.

The predictions have been LESS valuable than toilet paper. Open up!!

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if the number of cases/deaths go back up? Back to SIP?

Yes. If/When a second wave hits, then there will be a second sheltering in place. Or a third wave.

No there won't be another sheltering in place. People won't tolerate it anymore.

I actually think this is true. I was one of the people taking earliest precautions. I pulled my kids out of school before DC, Maryland, or Virginia shut down (I'm in Virginia). Bought a bunch of N95s, started ordering groceries. We literally have not been anywhere other than absolutely critical doctors appointments and I was 100% fully invested in locking down. We also have plenty of money, so we've been ordering a lot of good food and my wife and I are both good cooks. But now, I've just basically had it. I can go through another month or whatever but I am NOT doing this all summer. And I'll be damned if I'm going to go through it all over again. Not just because our supply chain is so obviously broken in so many critical ways (chicken and pork shortages AGAIN now, still no TP), but also because our schools are obviously failures and our kids can't learn and even more importantly it is literally destroying large segments of economy and country. I'll be one of the ones out protesting if they try to shut down again. I'm sorry, but millions of people die every year in the US from various causes, and now that I've seen the pain and destruction that lockdowns cause to EVERYONE, a few tens or hundreds of thousands of those annual deaths will just have to be ushered on by COVID.

Agree with this post.

What bothers me is the actual data and the videos I’m seeing on-site. They’re telling me to stay at home when the CDC admits to fudging the numbers by telling doctors to report the any death as a COVID death if it’s presumed, no test needed. So these people who are dying are just old people, without even being tested for the thing, now count as a COVID death.

Not to mention, the dancing doctors who are being laid off. The empty hospitals.

Enough is enough. We did our part. The media scare tactic and the John Hopkins University Death/Cases FearPorn map is just old to me now. I want my life back. Well social distance still and keep trips limited to the store, and that’s all we can do. But life must go on.

Come ON. If older people are dying with exactly the same symptoms as COVID deaths -- blood clots, can't breathe, CAT scans show deterioration of the lungs -- what exactly do you think they are dying of, just "old age"? Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.

They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.

There are at least 67k+ deaths now in the US over the last 3 months.

If we didn’t stay in place how many deaths do you think there would have been this year?

And that count isn’t even accurate. They’re adding people who haven’t even tested positive for COVID to that count. CDC revised the numbers to 36k deaths from COVID.

Where do you get your crappy news? The CDC didn’t “revise” numbers. That is just a different count - # of death certificates, which is a delayed statistic.

If anything we are undercounting. As of a week ago, the US had 66,000 more deaths than expected. With far fewer automobile deaths, gun deaths, etc.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-reports-66000-more-deaths-than-expected-so-far-this-year/2020/04/29/b6833548-8a68-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html


The question still stands: How many deaths do you think we would have had this year if we didn’t shelter in place?

Umm it’s on the CDC website itself.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Of course, the media won’t report this because they want you scared.

GMAFB. You don’t get your news from the CDC website. You heard this misinformation on FoxNews or similar. And you happily eat it up even if it’s not true.

Look at your link - it even says it’s not the current number of deaths because of the delayed reporting:
“It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods.”

It’s not a “revised” number - it’s just a different metric.


Again, how many people do you think would have died this year if we didn’t shelter in place?

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Anonymous wrote:Facts matter.

Va will open to Phase One on May 15 IF the data continues to show a downward percentage trend.

To the poster regarding day care- those could already be open if they want to be. The go ahead was given weeks ago. Open for essential workers and in VA that definition is broad.

Schools are not going to re-open so why bother mentioning it. It has nothing to do with Phase One.

My cousin and her husband are both teleworking and send their kids to a corporate daycare in Fairfax.

So some daycares are still open. I have not seen a single news story about any COVID cases in daycares, and I suspect that if outbreaks were occurring, we'd be hearing about them. Sooooooooo no outbreaks at daycares? Makes me think daycares aren't high-risk. Just saying.

They’re high risk for the teachers and employees, and to the families that the kids belong to, but the young kids remain primarily asymptomatic spreaders.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

Who cares. As long as elderly/sick aren’t at gym (gyms not exactly magnets for the unhealthy) it really doesn’t matter.

Wow. My mom and brother, who both have high-risk factors and are trying to lose weight to help deal with them, for one. Are you serious.....

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

Who cares. As long as elderly/sick aren’t at gym (gyms not exactly magnets for the unhealthy) it really doesn’t matter.

Essentially the message I’m hearing. “Who cares?” Not many. Our country is an embarrassment.

Are you willing to take in homeless people?
Are you willing to make sure Flint MI has clean drinking water?
Are you willing to donate your life savings for poor countries?

If the answer is no to all of these things, you have no room to comment.

We can’t worry about everyone. All we can do is the best we can and do what’s best for us. No one WANTS anyone to die, but we can’t live our lives in fear.

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Anonymous wrote:The reopenings haven't gone well in other states. Increases in cases and deaths, reclosures after places are overrun.

Temper your expectations.

Cite?

Omg. Shut it with the cite nonsense. No one knows and you’re being a pill.

I haven’t heard of GA nor FL seeing any significant spikes. And if so, it just means they’re testing more people. So it doesn’t even mean anything. You can be asymptomatic and still be positive and not even know it.

This is why it’s best to just open up and let people keep doing the social distancing thing like they’re doing now and keep it moving. We’re able to go to grocery stores here in the same manner, so there’s no difference at all. Just keep doing what you’re doing now when you go out.

Georgia is going up. Texas is going up.

They aren't social distancing anymore. They don't understand public health. Neither do you.

No one ever said they wouldnt go up. What they said is that they're not worried about overloading hospitals.

This. People will still get Covid. We’ve flattened the curve to not overwhelm hospitals. There’s no way to prevent anyone ever from getting the virus.

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Did you guys even watch the press conference?

Northam never said phase 1 starts next week. He said it MAY start next week if cases trend downward.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

Who cares. As long as elderly/sick aren’t at gym (gyms not exactly magnets for the unhealthy) it really doesn’t matter.

Essentially the message I’m hearing. “Who cares?” Not many. Our country is an embarrassment.

Are you willing to take in homeless people?
Are you willing to make sure Flint MI has clean drinking water?
Are you willing to donate your life savings for poor countries?

If the answer is no to all of these things, you have no room to comment.

We can’t worry about everyone. All we can do is the best we can and do what’s best for us. No one WANTS anyone to die, but we can’t live our lives in fear.

Word

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Anonymous wrote:The SAH order has really highlighted how abysmally terrible public education is. The teachers and admins have all been exposed as frauds.

Also exposed how badly undereducated our adults are. They don’t even remember high school biology and how viruses are spread and killed. Someone asked if the virus lives in the ocean water.

We live in an era where we’re all walking around with mini-computers and infinite information in our fingertips and people still rely on the mainstream media to give them their info instead of taking 5 mins to research things for themselves. It’s truly astonishing that our population is this dumbed down.

Worst yet was the response to the ocean water question stating the waves crashing on the beach splashing the super virus into the air so the beaches weren't safe

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Anonymous wrote:Facts matter.

Va will open to Phase One on May 15 IF the data continues to show a downward percentage trend.

To the poster regarding day care- those could already be open if they want to be. The go ahead was given weeks ago. Open for essential workers and in VA that definition is broad.

Schools are not going to re-open so why bother mentioning it. It has nothing to do with Phase One.

My cousin and her husband are both teleworking and send their kids to a corporate daycare in Fairfax.

wow. they sound like jerks.

How does using daycare that they pay for and is open, so that one can do their job make them a jerk?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought he explicitly said that you could go to the gym, but that there would be capacity restrictions. Is there a written plan that says differently?

yeah, that's what he said. gyms would be open with more cleaning or something. how could a gym like gold's or lifetime keep people six feet apart? and have the staff to clean everything after each use? its silly. Or a big gym can be open but its kid camp is closed? that's not logical.

I'm pretty skeptical about how you safely open gyms. Early in the pandemic, one of the superspreading events was a choir practice in Washington, where people were somewhat spaced apart. Even so, many people got sick, and the lesson was that the forceful breathing and projection of voice during singing spread the virus further than normal.

In a gym, you're going to have people huffing and puffing while they exercise. Seems like that would spew the virus all over the place.

Who cares. As long as elderly/sick aren’t at gym (gyms not exactly magnets for the unhealthy) it really doesn’t matter.

Essentially the message I’m hearing. “Who cares?” Not many. Our country is an embarrassment.

Are you willing to take in homeless people?
Are you willing to make sure Flint MI has clean drinking water?
Are you willing to donate your life savings for poor countries?

If the answer is no to all of these things, you have no room to comment.

We can’t worry about everyone. All we can do is the best we can and do what’s best for us. No one WANTS anyone to die, but we can’t live our lives in fear.

Dear one, are you?