Is skiing elitist?

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Anonymous wrote:If skiing was elitist, there wouldn’t be ski bums.

There are definitely skiers who are elitist, but you can avoid them by carefully choosing where are you ski.


My niece and nephew are ski bums... both parents are lawyers, they live in their parents ski in/out condo, both went to private colleges at $60K/year each and now they are just "finding themselves".
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Anonymous wrote:Ice hockey is super expensive to pursue as a sport/hobby. So, hockey players are elites too. And figure skaters. But we already know that because of their fancy outfits.


Hockey was definitely a rich kid dumb jock sport where I grew up. Ivy League hockey rosters are the dumbest kids on campus.
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An old money guy my husband works with has his kids in boarding school and their school does an entire month or maybe semester (?) in Switzerland in the winter so they can ski? That sounds pretty darn elitist.
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Anonymous wrote:Ice hockey is super expensive to pursue as a sport/hobby. So, hockey players are elites too. And figure skaters. But we already know that because of their fancy outfits.


Hockey was definitely a rich kid dumb jock sport where I grew up. Ivy League hockey rosters are the dumbest kids on campus.


and the average age is 22... but the ones I knew were smart.
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Anonymous wrote:An old money guy my husband works with has his kids in boarding school and their school does an entire month or maybe semester (?) in Switzerland in the winter so they can ski? That sounds pretty darn elitist.

The lady doth protest too much!
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Anonymous wrote:I have older kids than yours & live in New England but here’s an estimate based on new gear. Of course you can get used stuff more cheaply if you know what you’re looking for.

Seasons pass $500-$1200
Weekend race program Dec - Mar $1800
New race skis $500-$1000 each, need at least 2 pair, GS & slalom
New poles $100-$150 each, need 2 (GS & slalom)
Race boots $300-$500
Race helmet $200-$250
Chin guard for slalom $60
Shin guards for slalom $100-$150
Pole guards for slalom $50-$100
Goggles $50-$200
New race suit $300-$600
Jacket, ski pants, mittens
Race entry fees $25-150/race
US ski & snowboard membership $150
State ski association membership


Plus travel costs. Hotel and lift tickets if it’s a mountain your pass doesn’t cover. And if you want to watch your kid and it’s a mountain where you can’t hike to the course it’s usually $50-$150 a day for parent/spectator passes.


My daughter is a U14 racer and the race skis at that level are under $500 (I think I paid about $350). Race skis are good for about 2 seasons and then you should replace.


Would love to know what your kid is skiing on. New Rossi Hero GS skis are well over $500 w/o bindings... Same with Volkl Race Tigers.


I bought her new Atomic Redster GS JR skis this season from Alpine in Fairfax. I think I spent about $350.

Those are pretty pricey for Junior skiis! I think you overpaid! Without the boots?
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Anonymous wrote:I have older kids than yours & live in New England but here’s an estimate based on new gear. Of course you can get used stuff more cheaply if you know what you’re looking for.

Seasons pass $500-$1200
Weekend race program Dec - Mar $1800
New race skis $500-$1000 each, need at least 2 pair, GS & slalom
New poles $100-$150 each, need 2 (GS & slalom)
Race boots $300-$500
Race helmet $200-$250
Chin guard for slalom $60
Shin guards for slalom $100-$150
Pole guards for slalom $50-$100
Goggles $50-$200
New race suit $300-$600
Jacket, ski pants, mittens
Race entry fees $25-150/race
US ski & snowboard membership $150
State ski association membership


Plus travel costs. Hotel and lift tickets if it’s a mountain your pass doesn’t cover. And if you want to watch your kid and it’s a mountain where you can’t hike to the course it’s usually $50-$150 a day for parent/spectator passes.


My daughter is a U14 racer and the race skis at that level are under $500 (I think I paid about $350). Race skis are good for about 2 seasons and then you should replace.


Would love to know what your kid is skiing on. New Rossi Hero GS skis are well over $500 w/o bindings... Same with Volkl Race Tigers.


I bought her new Atomic Redster GS JR skis this season from Alpine in Fairfax. I think I spent about $350.

Those are pretty pricey for Junior skiis! I think you overpaid! Without the boots?


Not for race skis. I think we paid about that for new Fischers this year.


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Anonymous wrote:No. Because “elitist” doesn’t mean “for rich people.” I can’t believe how many people on here apparently don’t know this.


This.


Definition of elitist by MW: "giving special treatment and advantages to wealthy and powerful people". So "for rich people" about sums it up.


No. OP isn’t asking whether skiing gives “special treatment and advantages to the wealthy.” She’s asking whether it is an activity that is only for rich people. Do you not see how those things are different?


No she wasn't. She was asking if skiing was elitist, and I posted the definition because people were arguing that it did not men "something for rich people". Per the definition, yes, it does. Reading comprehension is your friend.


In what way does skiing confer special treatment and advantages on the wealthy? Skiing may BE a privilege only available to the wealthy, but that’s a very different thing.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. It’s expensive to get equipment, lessons, and the best destinations are pricey.

Depends on where you live though. Not elitist if you’re in CO


Not elitist if you live near the destination. Not elitist if you go to less posh destinations, either.
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Anonymous wrote:I have older kids than yours & live in New England but here’s an estimate based on new gear. Of course you can get used stuff more cheaply if you know what you’re looking for.

Seasons pass $500-$1200
Weekend race program Dec - Mar $1800
New race skis $500-$1000 each, need at least 2 pair, GS & slalom
New poles $100-$150 each, need 2 (GS & slalom)
Race boots $300-$500
Race helmet $200-$250
Chin guard for slalom $60
Shin guards for slalom $100-$150
Pole guards for slalom $50-$100
Goggles $50-$200
New race suit $300-$600
Jacket, ski pants, mittens
Race entry fees $25-150/race
US ski & snowboard membership $150
State ski association membership


Plus travel costs. Hotel and lift tickets if it’s a mountain your pass doesn’t cover. And if you want to watch your kid and it’s a mountain where you can’t hike to the course it’s usually $50-$150 a day for parent/spectator passes.


My daughter is a U14 racer and the race skis at that level are under $500 (I think I paid about $350). Race skis are good for about 2 seasons and then you should replace.


Would love to know what your kid is skiing on. New Rossi Hero GS skis are well over $500 w/o bindings... Same with Volkl Race Tigers.


I bought her new Atomic Redster GS JR skis this season from Alpine in Fairfax. I think I spent about $350.

Those are pretty pricey for Junior skiis! I think you overpaid! Without the boots?


Not for race skis. I think we paid about that for new Fischers this year.



SHe must've bought them in the fall. They are cheaper now.
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i paid a $140 for a pass to 7 PA resorts. I can visit each on 3 times during this season. I rented skis at Sun and Ski for $150 I believe. Umm $300 for the season is not elitist, imo
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Anonymous wrote:I have older kids than yours & live in New England but here’s an estimate based on new gear. Of course you can get used stuff more cheaply if you know what you’re looking for.

Seasons pass $500-$1200
Weekend race program Dec - Mar $1800
New race skis $500-$1000 each, need at least 2 pair, GS & slalom
New poles $100-$150 each, need 2 (GS & slalom)
Race boots $300-$500
Race helmet $200-$250
Chin guard for slalom $60
Shin guards for slalom $100-$150
Pole guards for slalom $50-$100
Goggles $50-$200
New race suit $300-$600
Jacket, ski pants, mittens
Race entry fees $25-150/race
US ski & snowboard membership $150
State ski association membership


Plus travel costs. Hotel and lift tickets if it’s a mountain your pass doesn’t cover. And if you want to watch your kid and it’s a mountain where you can’t hike to the course it’s usually $50-$150 a day for parent/spectator passes.


My daughter is a U14 racer and the race skis at that level are under $500 (I think I paid about $350). Race skis are good for about 2 seasons and then you should replace.


Would love to know what your kid is skiing on. New Rossi Hero GS skis are well over $500 w/o bindings... Same with Volkl Race Tigers.


I bought her new Atomic Redster GS JR skis this season from Alpine in Fairfax. I think I spent about $350.

Those are pretty pricey for Junior skiis! I think you overpaid! Without the boots?


Not for race skis. I think we paid about that for new Fischers this year.



SHe must've bought them in the fall. They are cheaper now.


really? 159 CM? where?
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Anonymous wrote:Skiing, golf, dressage, polo and sailing are THE most elitist pursuits there are


You forgot polo.


You forget to read.
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I live in CA & view it as such.

Just like I consider horse polo elitist.

So elitist (for me!) that I likely am not even using the correct term.

Lol.
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Anonymous wrote:i paid a $140 for a pass to 7 PA resorts. I can visit each on 3 times during this season. I rented skis at Sun and Ski for $150 I believe. Umm $300 for the season is not elitist, imo


This boggles my mind. $300 for 1 person per season is so much money for a lot of people.

Growing up, my parents went from lower middle class to middle class. It took 2-3 years of holidays to gather up the gear to ski (not the skis themselves, that was for rich people).
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