Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine

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[Post New]09/26/2019 15:18
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All anyone needs to know in two related quotes:

"I want to know who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that's close to a spy.”

"You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now."



Is this obstruction of justice?
[Post New]09/26/2019 15:19
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Anonymous
Ken Vogel at the New York Times could have had this story if he wasn’t so busy trying to bury Biden private email server style.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/09/trump-ukraine-scandal-new-york-times-biden.html?__twitter_impression=true
[Post New]09/26/2019 15:44
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All anyone needs to know in two related quotes:

"I want to know who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that's close to a spy.”

"You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now."



Is this obstruction of justice?



Probably. It is a stochastic threat intended to rouse unstable followers. If he were an Army private the FBI would be arresting him now.
[Post New]09/26/2019 21:50
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Anonymous
So my thread got locked, but does anyone know WHO paid for Giuliani's trip to Ukraine? He's not a US govt employee or contractor...
[Post New]09/26/2019 21:55
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So my thread got locked, but does anyone know WHO paid for Giuliani's trip to Ukraine? He's not a US govt employee or contractor...

He’s also not allowed to work for free for the government, as he claims he was.
[Post New]09/26/2019 21:56
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So my thread got locked, but does anyone know WHO paid for Giuliani's trip to Ukraine? He's not a US govt employee or contractor...



Likely the people donating to Trump2020.
[Post New]09/26/2019 22:02
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Anonymous
Firtash, DiGeoneva, Toensing

https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1177401310649303040


These people have all been dirty forever.
[Post New]09/26/2019 22:10
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Anonymous

Rebecca Ballhaus
@rebeccaballhaus

Andriy Yermak, a top aide to the Ukrainian president, in July asked the State Dept for Giuliani’s number. Then he called Giuliani to ask him to tone down his TV criticism of Zelensky. Giuliani responded by suggesting Ukraine investigate Hunter Biden.

9:23 PM · Sep 26, 2019·

https://www.wsj.com/articles/giuliani-sits-at-the-center-of-the-ukraine-controversy-11569546774
[Post New]09/26/2019 22:12
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Rebecca Ballhaus
@rebeccaballhaus

Andriy Yermak, a top aide to the Ukrainian president, in July asked the State Dept for Giuliani’s number. Then he called Giuliani to ask him to tone down his TV criticism of Zelensky. Giuliani responded by suggesting Ukraine investigate Hunter Biden.

9:23 PM · Sep 26, 2019·

https://www.wsj.com/articles/giuliani-sits-at-the-center-of-the-ukraine-controversy-11569546774


Jeez.

This should go on the Pelosi impeachment thread. Or the other thread.
[Post New]09/26/2019 22:26
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All anyone needs to know in two related quotes:

"I want to know who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that's close to a spy.”

"You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now."



Is this obstruction of justice?



Witness intimidation.
[Post New]09/26/2019 22:48
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All anyone needs to know in two related quotes:

"I want to know who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that's close to a spy.”

"You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now."



Is this obstruction of justice?
It’s witness intimidation.
[Post New]09/26/2019 22:50
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Rebecca Ballhaus
@rebeccaballhaus

Andriy Yermak, a top aide to the Ukrainian president, in July asked the State Dept for Giuliani’s number. Then he called Giuliani to ask him to tone down his TV criticism of Zelensky. Giuliani responded by suggesting Ukraine investigate Hunter Biden.

9:23 PM · Sep 26, 2019·

https://www.wsj.com/articles/giuliani-sits-at-the-center-of-the-ukraine-controversy-11569546774


Like any good lawyer, Giuliani is showing proof of this on the TV.
[Post New]09/26/2019 23:03
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Anonymous
I don't see how any of that helps Rudy. It just makes Volker and Pompeo part of the conspiracy to extort Ukraine to investigate for Rudy's client, which was not the United States. Some State Department officials let the President's lawyer run the U.S. policy in the Ukraine. Don't forget that Rudy and others smeared U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, who was a career FSO with a stellar reputation, to get her out of Ukraine so Rudy could run amok. The accusation against Yovanovitch was later retracted, but Pompeo has never said a word to defend her.
[Post New]09/26/2019 23:17
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Anonymous
Rudy is basically saying he is not taking the hit on this solo.

The House and Senate should be subpoening his phone records and texts.
[Post New]09/26/2019 23:32
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Anonymous
The New Republic dives into all the damage Rudy Giuliani has done to U.S. interests in Eastern Europe over the past year—and how much progress he’s single-handedly undone.

https://newrepublic.com/amp/article/155177/rudy-giulianis-year-living-dangerously?__twitter_impression=true
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