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Anonymous wrote:most depressing experience so far is looking at the EOTP schools near me and seeing in the spreadsheets that of any group, the number of students that actually hit the exceeds category at the top reflects 1 student, sometimes 2 students.

I’m a teacher and I feel the same way. I think a lot of my kids should have done better, but they just had no interest in taking the test.

Well that's a tough spot. Do you push them all to invest in their PARCC outcomes so a few kids can get trophy scores for your school or do you manage realistic expectations for the overwhelming majority who struggle to meet that goal (likely through no fault yours)?

The overall scores largely correlate to income and at-risk status.

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Anonymous wrote:Math sucked all around this year.

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What's up with math and DCPS?

Eureka sucks.

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Eureka math has tanked DCPS test scores in math, it’s awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like this year Shepherd has enough white kids to report their PARCC results--94 in both reading and math, so comparable to WOTP schools.

Just picking a couple of WOTP schools at random, Janney's white students' scores are 90/86, and Lafeyette's are 86/90.

However, Shepherd's black and Hispanic students scores are far lower, which suggests there is room for improvement there--54/50 for black students, and 40/30 for Hispanic students.

In comparison, I looked at Lafayette's black student scores--48/54, and Janney, 59/45. Doesn't look like any of these schools are doing amazingly with black students.

Interestingly, Lafayette's Hispanic scores are pretty high--89/75. Ditto for Lafayette, 86/68.

I'd be interested to see what elementary schools have the highest PARCC scores for black and Latino students..

Great job Shepherd. It’s important to note that with Shepherd, 25% of their population (likely minority) are low income so not exactly apples to apples. What’s even more impressive to me is the scores between at risk and not at risk are very close 50/50 vs 60/56. Compare that with Lafayette (32/47 vs 82/84) and Murch (Janney didn’t have enough at risk) of (38/23 vs 76/76).

Not sure where you numbers above but looking at the list of all schools, Shepard is only in the 50 percentage with students at grade level in ELA and math, far below the EOTP schools.

Meant WOTP schools

Like PP mentions before, you should know that Shepherd has a far different makeup than schools WOTP (and not they are about same as Hearst). Shepherd’s white kids perform better than any school WOTP that I can see. Shepherd AA kids score higher than many WOTP AA kids (some of which there are not enough to count), same for at risk. Shepherd has 25% low income in their population in their school, WOTP averages like 6%. Do you really not know how to compare schools? Is that why DCPS is so bad in math?

Here’s some info to you. Most parents could care less about what race, SES status the students are. We care about peer group and how many students are at least at grade level.

Well given that Shepherd's white kids are knocking it out of the park it appears that any snobbery about peer group doesn't hold, at least for this group.

Agree! Please hold this up for every white parent who thinks their kids will be harmed by lower performing minorities. It isn’t true.

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I love Eureka Math.

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Do you all think the release of these scores will impact waitlists and enrollment? I’m wondering if we will see parents starting to remove their kid from waitlists for schools with less than stellar performance.

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Anonymous wrote:most depressing experience so far is looking at the EOTP schools near me and seeing in the spreadsheets that of any group, the number of students that actually hit the exceeds category at the top reflects 1 student, sometimes 2 students.

I’m a teacher and I feel the same way. I think a lot of my kids should have done better, but they just had no interest in taking the test.

Well that's a tough spot. Do you push them all to invest in their PARCC outcomes so a few kids can get trophy scores for your school or do you manage realistic expectations for the overwhelming majority who struggle to meet that goal (likely through no fault yours)?

The overall scores largely correlate to income and at-risk status.

I’m the teacher in the PP. I teach elementary math. I try to build them up throughout the year so they constantly hear that they can do hard things. I do very little test prep, but did spend time working on how to explain your answers in writing, but because that’s a good skill to have outside of testing. The kids want to know how they will do so I’ll show them their previous scores and say “I think you can get X This year if you Y.” But the reality is the kids (for the most part) don’t have any interest or investment in doing well. They’ll ask if they need to pass PARCC to go on to the next grade and the answer is no. I had kids finish in 7 minutes, not finish at all, sleep through the test, walk out and sit in the hallway, cry, and be disruptive so we are forced to remove them. I saw some kids grow but most just stayed the same and a few went down. I wouldn’t say there are any trophy kids, though we do look at what kids were close to the next level up and could make it with some extra TLC.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think the release of these scores will impact waitlists and enrollment? I’m wondering if we will see parents starting to remove their kid from waitlists for schools with less than stellar performance.

Totally. Only a true Montessori believer would enroll in SSMA at this point, especially in light of upticks at most nearby DCPS schools. Langley might hang on to more of its kids, and Garrison and Seaton waitlisters should despair.

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Surprised to see significant decreases in 5th grade math at Ross and SWW@FS, though ELA showed improvement. Not sure what happened with math this year. Haven’t they been doing Eureka for years?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think the release of these scores will impact waitlists and enrollment? I’m wondering if we will see parents starting to remove their kid from waitlists for schools with less than stellar performance.

Totally. Only a true Montessori believer would enroll in SSMA at this point, especially in light of upticks at most nearby DCPS schools. Langley might hang on to more of its kids, and Garrison and Seaton waitlisters should despair.

Same with Lee. Their scores are about the same. Shoot, Lee has the same scores as Noyes and ELA like Brookland middle (and they have WAY more at risk kids) yet you don’t see anyone clamoring to get into Noyes. I wonder why. #CMIsyndrome

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Ross loses a lot of high performers after 4th grade to BASIS charter.

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I don’t know if this is a small sample size issue, but looking at the raw data, ITS and LAMB seem to have horrible success with at risk- students whereas YY and Sela seem to be killing it. Maybe the alphabet/language root decoding is helping math scores?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if this is a small sample size issue, but looking at the raw data, ITS and LAMB seem to have horrible success with at risk- students whereas YY and Sela seem to be killing it. Maybe the alphabet/language root decoding is helping math scores?

ITS has a middle school that is half their testing size which brings another dynamic in play. You should look at grade by grade to determine that (not sure of the sample size is large enough). Not apples to apples.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if this is a small sample size issue, but looking at the raw data, ITS and LAMB seem to have horrible success with at risk- students whereas YY and Sela seem to be killing it. Maybe the alphabet/language root decoding is helping math scores?

YY has vanishingly few at-risk kids, so I don't know that you can draw a lot of conclusions from it. And Sela's population is also pretty small.

I think ITS' at risk kids are more in the middle school.due to backfilling, and it is hard to catch kids up if they enter far behind.