Bananas , hahahahaha made up stats. No you are more likely to die of uncirc diseases moron because the risks for circs are so low it's not measurable |
+1. Or teach your sons to use a condom to prevent STDS, which they should do whether they’re circumcised or not. As a woman, it seems to me like it’s comparable to removing a girl infant’s labia or clitoral hood because those are extra skin down there that could get irritated during sex and so present extra vulnerable areas for an STD to transfer. Sure, she could still climax without those parts later on, but it’s going to reduce sensitivity in that whole area be different. And it’s a really weird calculus to make for someone else. I don’t think parents should be weighing the benefits of bodily integrity against the possibility that their child may be having a lot of risky sex later in life. Kid should decide later in life if the like 20% reduced chance of contracting HIV when having unprotected sex with an HIV+ person is worth cutting of their foreskin, or if maybe they should just wear a condom and have a much lower chance of contracting HIV. And this is all supposing we haven’t cured HIV by then or developed really effective pre-exposure drugs to prevent transmission if kid really wants to have unprotected sex with HIV+ people. Even supposing there are medical benefits, it’s a super weird and personal decision to make about someone else’s body and future sex life. |
PP here who thinks they’re somewhat comparable. This suggests maybe 1 death in every 49,166 circumcisions. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/142/1_MeetingAbstract/224 Pretty low risk. Not sure causation is proved, but seems like some type of estimate to go by. Healthy infants probably have much less risk, but you don’t always know what issues your newborn has 24 hours after he’s born. NPR estimated risk of SIDS death for a healthy infant at 1 in 46,000. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/05/21/601289695/is-sleeping-with-your-baby-as-dangerous-as-doctors-say. I would guess risk of death from rock and play, which was recalled as unsafe with 4.7 million sold and around 30 deaths. Rough estimate would be maybe 1 death per every 150,000 rock n plays, probably less if kid is buckled in and not rolling yet). https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-life-and-death-of-a-wildly-popular-baby-sleeper. Seems pretty low risk comparatively. How many other things do we work hard to avoid because of low risks to our babies? And yet circumcision presents a low risk with questionable benefits and we don’t avoid that. |
And HIV |
I'm confused. If you didn't for your sons, why are you unsure now? |
Not the OP but as you can see from above, people are equating being anti-vaccination (also known as anti-science) with having a child who is uncircumcised.Not exactly parallels IMO but to each their own. |
Circumcising a new born is totally different then waiting until they are old enough to decide. If they decide later, that they want it, its not a simple procedure its a surgery requiring General anesthesia in a hospital or surgery center with healing time. Sometimes older men get circumcised due to skin conditions, infection, etc. later in life. However, I do agree its barbaric. I don't know where I stand because if I were a boy, and I wanted to be circumcised I would want it as an infant. It's just embarrassing and painful later on. |
Hormonal teens do what they want/lack judgement, you can't teach them anything. |