Why would you pay full freight to send your kid to Middlebury?

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It’s settled. Dummy didn’t go to college and is pissed about it. Sad story but it happens. The world needs internet trolls too, and at least the laughable “writing” isn’t much of a liability there.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

Thanks for the info but the verdict remains the same. Eliminating a school that would otherwise be your first choice after two visits because some rep had a bad day (or is maybe a not so nice person even) is extremely foolish.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

Thanks for the info but the verdict remains the same. Eliminating a school that would otherwise be your first choice after two visits because some rep had a bad day (or is maybe a not so nice person even) is extremely foolish.

I know but she is the admissions rep for the area. Doesn't that mean she doesn't like DS and his chances go down. I would rather ED somewhere where we are welcomed and feel like we have a shot of getting in.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

Thanks for the info but the verdict remains the same. Eliminating a school that would otherwise be your first choice after two visits because some rep had a bad day (or is maybe a not so nice person even) is extremely foolish.

I know but she is the admissions rep for the area. Doesn't that mean she doesn't like DS and his chances go down. I would rather ED somewhere where we are welcomed and feel like we have a shot of getting in.

May be we will regular decision but definitely not EDing. Likely ED will now be Haverford or Davidson.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how everyone is like

"It is a great school!"

But the median salary 12 years after college is $62K a year.

Um, no. You don't pay full pay for a college like that. How is this even a question.

Because not everyone is so concerned with ROI, but rather the quality of education the kid receives. Some get this, some don't.

You mean privileged white people?

Yeah I’m a privileged white person. My kids will inherit millions. I don’t care what kind of job they get as life big as they get one and find it fulfilling and meaningful.

Im not sorry we have a larger cushion than you.

Yuck. If you are any indication of the type of families that apply to this school, I will make sure my kids aren't interested in it. And I don't think you need to apologize to the PP. You just proved her point.

They ARE the type of families that apply, as well as the “dummy and stupid” retort lady.

This thread is hilarious. I am sure it is a good college and it is obvious it has a niche of people who love it.

Only on DCUM do people actually defend spending $300K, to then claim the salaries are so low because the kids are working non-profits and saving the world. Oh the irony and ignorance of rich people.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

Thanks for the info but the verdict remains the same. Eliminating a school that would otherwise be your first choice after two visits because some rep had a bad day (or is maybe a not so nice person even) is extremely foolish.

I know but she is the admissions rep for the area. Doesn't that mean she doesn't like DS and his chances go down. I would rather ED somewhere where we are welcomed and feel like we have a shot of getting in.

May be we will regular decision but definitely not EDing. Likely ED will now be Haverford or Davidson.

Good luck to you; these are both excellent in my opinion. DC is at one of them. The student bodies are a bit different though, so make sure she likes the kids she'll be going to school with, that's my advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

Thanks for the info but the verdict remains the same. Eliminating a school that would otherwise be your first choice after two visits because some rep had a bad day (or is maybe a not so nice person even) is extremely foolish.

I know but she is the admissions rep for the area. Doesn't that mean she doesn't like DS and his chances go down. I would rather ED somewhere where we are welcomed and feel like we have a shot of getting in.

Were you rude to her? How certain are you DS will even be remembered? She has 5 states worth of kids to meet.

She has not seen your transcripts or recommendations. And she is not the Dean of Admissions there. If your DS's stats are as high as you say, it will not be her decision alone.

Verdict remains.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how everyone is like

"It is a great school!"

But the median salary 12 years after college is $62K a year.

Um, no. You don't pay full pay for a college like that. How is this even a question.

Because not everyone is so concerned with ROI, but rather the quality of education the kid receives. Some get this, some don't.

You mean privileged white people?

Yeah I’m a privileged white person. My kids will inherit millions. I don’t care what kind of job they get as life big as they get one and find it fulfilling and meaningful.

Im not sorry we have a larger cushion than you.

Yuck. If you are any indication of the type of families that apply to this school, I will make sure my kids aren't interested in it. And I don't think you need to apologize to the PP. You just proved her point.

They ARE the type of families that apply, as well as the “dummy and stupid” retort lady.

This thread is hilarious. I am sure it is a good college and it is obvious it has a niche of people who love it.

Only on DCUM do people actually defend spending $300K, to then claim the salaries are so low because the kids are working non-profits and saving the world. Oh the irony and ignorance of rich people.

This.

Exactly true

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Keep liking your own dumb comments. We can’t tell.

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Anonymous wrote:The US has over 5000 colleges. Can we spend 8 pages debating each one of them? That way everyone on the forum has a chance to dredge up irrelevant past anecdotes and make up their own stories.

There really are not too many LACs like Middlebury - maybe a few (Bates, Haverford, Colby, and a couple of others) so I don't think your point is all that persuasive.

There are many, stupid. Educate yourself.

There are 5,000 colleges in the U.S but it is apples and oranges to compare these schools to an elite LAC.

Do you honestly think their Physics or English course is elite, compared to another college’s same courses? You think the syllabus is more elite? The professor more elite?

No, they aren’t. The kids being from wealthy families is the only thing that makes it elite compared to other colleges. Maybe their PR department is elite too

Written like a fifth grader. Where did you go to college?

PP, aren’t you the one typing dummy, stupid, and Mommy all over this thread? The post is fine, proves a point, and you just can’t come up with anything better than this comment?

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The salary info was just wrong and you keep ignoring that. Not sure what your axe to grind is here but you are off base. Or rather, your comments have more to do with SLAC generally and different strokes for different folks.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree to look at the school, not the rep. My junior dd is fixated on one school that she thinks is a great fit. I’m not as convinced. The rep recognized her at a local college fair - said you’re Larla from Blah Blah Blah High School, right and dd ate it up. Whereas another rep wasn’t as friendly but dd meshed more with other applicants at an open house (dd is quirky so social fit is very important) and dd isn’t as hot on that school. She’ll interview at both so she’ll get a second look but I’m trying to remind her that the reps are paid salespeople. As are the students who work for admissions.

So more facts. As I said, we visited twice. She knew this. Said we really like the school. And nothing from the rep. Let me give you an example of how I reacted when I met a kid that wanted to go to my alma mater. I met a girl in an extracurricular that my DS did that really wanted to go to where I attended and it was her first choice. I immediately offered to write a letter of recommendation and call the President because I knew how much she wanted to go there.

This rep was dry and cold. We took it to mean my DS was not getting in so we have moved on. She is the area rep that covers admissions for Middlebury in the Mid-Atlantic so she should be the one advocating for us. We un-followed the school on instagram etc.

Visited twice so definitely showed Demonstrated Interest. We had plan to ED there and our full pay. Well qualified academically, strong ECs, strong ACT (their 50th percentile is 32 and DS is higher). Good local private school. Diverse (foreign background).

Thanks for the info but the verdict remains the same. Eliminating a school that would otherwise be your first choice after two visits because some rep had a bad day (or is maybe a not so nice person even) is extremely foolish.

I know but she is the admissions rep for the area. Doesn't that mean she doesn't like DS and his chances go down. I would rather ED somewhere where we are welcomed and feel like we have a shot of getting in.

Are you applying to college? Why do you keep using "we?" It is weird.

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Anonymous wrote:The US has over 5000 colleges. Can we spend 8 pages debating each one of them? That way everyone on the forum has a chance to dredge up irrelevant past anecdotes and make up their own stories.

There really are not too many LACs like Middlebury - maybe a few (Bates, Haverford, Colby, and a couple of others) so I don't think your point is all that persuasive.

There are many, stupid. Educate yourself.

There are 5,000 colleges in the U.S but it is apples and oranges to compare these schools to an elite LAC.

Do you honestly think their Physics or English course is elite, compared to another college’s same courses? You think the syllabus is more elite? The professor more elite?

No, they aren’t. The kids being from wealthy families is the only thing that makes it elite compared to other colleges. Maybe their PR department is elite too

Written like a fifth grader. Where did you go to college?

PP, aren’t you the one typing dummy, stupid, and Mommy all over this thread? The post is fine, proves a point, and you just can’t come up with anything better than this comment?

Hey dummy. Thanks for writing. Middlebury is fantastic for many reasons but your skull is too thick and you’re too angry to grasp any of it. Sorry your kid didn’t get into Middlebury. Neither did mine. It’s an extremely difficult admit and that has much more to do with the quality of the applications than all your dopey rich person conspiracy nonsense. We were full pay and I suppose that makes us your imagined class warfare enemies (though I grew up poor so I’m not sure where that leaves us) and my son was a good student. 4.4, 1520, some good EC’s, visited campus, same stuff lots of kids who apply there have. And yet...denied. I’m over it and harbor no ill-will for Middlebury. Just so odd that you can’t do the same.

So go on. Google some more disconnected statistics and make some more unsubstantiated claims like “the only reason that makes it elite is...”, in that inimical style of yours, because that’s what you do. Then go back and +1 yourself because you do that too.

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College of Wooster is just as good as Middlebury. Better calibre of people, too.