Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Agree with 13:19.

These endless complaints about Ellington are as racist as they are classist. It's like you can't stand for poor kids from other parts of the city to have access to something nice, much less something nice in your backyard.

The more you spout this trash the less support you will find for your dream school to exclusively serve the 10% of students in DC schools who are white.


What are you talking about? That's bs. Wanting a neighborhood school is not racist or classist and NOBODY has ever said to shut down the DE program or concept.
Anonymous
wait, that part is in fact true. DC is growing and has more students but not where you'd put a "new Western" high school:
https://planning.dc.gov/publication/dc-forecasts

The large growth is Wards 1, 4, 6, 7 and 8.

https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/Neighborhood%20Cluster%20Age%200-17.pdf

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:wait, that part is in fact true. DC is growing and has more students but not where you'd put a "new Western" high school:
https://planning.dc.gov/publication/dc-forecasts

The large growth is Wards 1, 4, 6, 7 and 8.

https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/Neighborhood%20Cluster%20Age%200-17.pdf



We're talking about putting under-utilized capacity at Ellington, not re-start with an entirely new school. Wouldn't change much of anything.
Anonymous
I'm not interested in sending students to Georgetown from the rest of the city to support a program you want there. I would rather have it where my family and most students' families are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:wait, that part is in fact true. DC is growing and has more students but not where you'd put a "new Western" high school:
https://planning.dc.gov/publication/dc-forecasts

The large growth is Wards 1, 4, 6, 7 and 8.

https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/Neighborhood%20Cluster%20Age%200-17.pdf



Oh, don't get me wrong, better schools are desperately needed EOTP. Putting a proper MS there and improving Coolidge should absolutely be priorities if we want the growth to be sustainable.

As for "Western" the issue is that more of them are coming back to DCPS (which increase the impact of their organic growth) and the area they were glommed onto has high growth. Put those two things together and something has to give.
Anonymous
where's your glomming? I showed you my stats, where are yours?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:wait, that part is in fact true. DC is growing and has more students but not where you'd put a "new Western" high school:
https://planning.dc.gov/publication/dc-forecasts

The large growth is Wards 1, 4, 6, 7 and 8.

https://planning.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/op/publication/attachments/Neighborhood%20Cluster%20Age%200-17.pdf



Oh, don't get me wrong, better schools are desperately needed EOTP. Putting a proper MS there and improving Coolidge should absolutely be priorities if we want the growth to be sustainable.

As for "Western" the issue is that more of them are coming back to DCPS (which increase the impact of their organic growth) and the area they were glommed onto has high growth. Put those two things together and something has to give.


Brookland Middle School is a disaster. So how is creating another EOTP middle school going to do better?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Agree with 13:19.

These endless complaints about Ellington are as racist as they are classist. It's like you can't stand for poor kids from other parts of the city to have access to something nice, much less something nice in your backyard.

The more you spout this trash the less support you will find for your dream school to exclusively serve the 10% of students in DC schools who are white.


No Ellington supporter has ever been able to articulate why the school needs to be in Georgetown.

None.

It is almost as if the supporters have some insecurities and don't think the school could thrive outside of an elitist and mostly white neighborhood.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:where's your glomming? I showed you my stats, where are yours?


Huh? They closed Western and pushed all those areas onto Wilson (which already had its own areas). This was done because people in the Western area stopped sending their kids to DCPS while the Wilson area was relatively static population wise. It was sustainable as long as those patterns continued. They have not.

The Wilson areas are all at IB capacity. The Western areas have seen some of the largest IB growth. Where there were once two HS serving this population now there is one.
Anonymous
That's no answer. The growth there is minor and in no way justifies school changes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That's no answer. The growth there is minor and in no way justifies school changes.


Of course it does. Being at and above IB capacity alone justifies it.

IB growth and capacity is the best indicator of future needs.
Anonymous
but . . . none of the growth comes from Georgetown
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:but . . . none of the growth comes from Georgetown


Ward 2 is pretty big, Chief. So is Ward 3. Both growing rapidly, probably even more once the Amazon employees start looking at real estate.

Slightly OT, I agree with another poster who said re-zoning for new apartment buildings (with a required % of lower-income units) would be a logical way to attract more diversity in areas that need it; also would help justify City approval for building more DCPS capacity to relieve pressure on DCPS schools that are overcrowded. It would also provide practical avenues for middle-class families who wish to move into better school boundaries for their kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:but . . . none of the growth comes from Georgetown

It's coming from Glover Park (which was part of Western)
Anonymous
Dude, look at the OP document. The relative growth numbers are elsewhere. Please just read it and get back to us.
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